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ExtraLife Promotion is Laughably Bad

Who in the world came up with this terribad idea? Listen, I'm all about charities and even worked for one for years. But these rewards have got to be some kind of joke. There's no reason in the world to spend more than the $15 on the EMH boff (is it the Photonic Science Boff) if you didn't have it already.

The upper tiers are just poorly conceived. There's no way in the world some R&D packs and a title (Oh My God guys) are worth $10 when these are pretty much regular store prices from there. Oh look for $100 you're putting in the T6 Mega Flagship Bundle...which is $120 anyway and you would have gotten a 20% discount at the next ship sale.

Yes, I get that "technically" Cryptic is donating but from a player perspective, we're pretty much paying the same amount we would have for the stuff, just changing who we're paying from Cryptic to the Extra Life Foundation.

Here's a hint: if you want to drive serious donations, you're going to have to do a lot better than a weaksauce dev blog post and barely watered down prices for non-exclusive junk. The Anti-Bullying one was actually a good version of this, so what on New Romulus were you guys thinking with this round?
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    You know the idea is to donate to charity right? It's not a discount bin sale....
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  • iconiansiconians Member Posts: 6,987 Arc User
    I guess if all you care about is what stuff you're getting out of a charity event meant to support Children's Hospitals, then yeah, this is "laughably bad". I guess take solace in knowing your money is going to a charity instead of getting shipped over to China or something.​​
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  • tigerariestigeraries Member Posts: 3,492 Arc User
    well it wouldnt be so bad if it the reward was across all games... but you only get the gift for 1 select game and the gifts are all 1s and 0s... not like it's a physical reward.
  • nileight1nileight1 Member Posts: 249 Arc User
    It's charity.
    The real reward is knowing that you're doing something good for kids that are dying...
  • storulesstorules Member Posts: 3,279 Arc User
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  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,659 Arc User
    edited November 2016
    iconians wrote: »
    I guess if all you care about is what stuff you're getting out of a charity event meant to support Children's Hospitals, then yeah, this is "laughably bad". I guess take solace in knowing your money is going to a charity instead of getting shipped over to China or something.​​

    Exactly. I run a donation drive for Child's Play on another site every year. Do you want to know what "laughably bad" rewards we give out to people who choose to donate? Here you go:

    Nothing.

    That's right, people buy toys for sick kids stuck in children's hospitals even though they know they will get nothing in return except knowing that they made some kid's life a little better.
  • tigerariestigeraries Member Posts: 3,492 Arc User
    lol nice meme... but hate to break it to ya but you do plenty of charity... it's call taxes. it covers other peoples health care and other social/welfare programs... just think of the children!

    btw I always enjoyed public tv's fundraising drives... especially since our local channel had a sci-fi night... we had Blakes 7, Prisoner, Doc Who & even anime. Ah the good old days.
  • leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 5,461 Arc User
    edited November 2016
    Does anybody know what percent of donations actually go to the children as opposed to people who work for the charity paying themselves? I try to only donate to charities where the majority of the money is actually going to the cause, not being kept by the organization.

    Don't know actually as I've never heard of them, being from the UK doesn't help. However, when it comes to helping sick kids, I have no problem.

    As for the OP....how very callous of you! Cryptic ISN'T donating. YOU are donating to the charity DIRECTLY! I've already donated to it.
    "You don't want to patrol!? You don't want to escort!? You don't want to defend the Federation's Starbases!? Then why are you flying my Starships!? If you were a Klingon you'd be killed on the spot, but lucky for you.....you WERE in Starfleet. Let's see how New Zealand Penal Colony suits you." Adm A. Necheyev.
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  • leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 5,461 Arc User
    leemwatson wrote: »
    Does anybody know what percent of donations actually go to the children as opposed to people who work for the charity paying themselves? I try to only donate to charities where the majority of the money is actually going to the cause, not being kept by the organization.

    Don't know actually as I've never heard of them, being from the UK doesn't help. However, when it comes to helping sick kids, I have no problem.

    What a strange statement. Of course nobody "has a problem" helping sick children. But we should try to use the charities that give the biggest percent of our money to them, because that does the most good. So I'm just asking if anybody knows what percent of our donations this charity gives. I mean, you wouldn't choose to give your money to a group that keeps 90% of it, when you could give it to one that keeps only 10%, would you? People should actually care enough to look into these things before choosing where to donate.

    Oh, by all means your point is valid, and I'm not arguing that, however if PWE (not Cryptic) had teamed up with a Charity that wasn't as 'giving' then it's bad PR for PWE, and it hits them harder. I also rarely do actually give to charities, as I don't trust most of them anyway. I'm just sorry I didn't give you a complete breakdown of the Charities activities (No offence intended) to justify why I did.
    "You don't want to patrol!? You don't want to escort!? You don't want to defend the Federation's Starbases!? Then why are you flying my Starships!? If you were a Klingon you'd be killed on the spot, but lucky for you.....you WERE in Starfleet. Let's see how New Zealand Penal Colony suits you." Adm A. Necheyev.
  • taylor1701dtaylor1701d Member Posts: 3,099 Arc User
    You know the idea is to donate to charity right? It's not a discount bin sale....

    Ouch !

    I would say the same, but in OP's defense, he may be (wrongly) comparing this with the last charity event for the Mirror Guardian + bunch of shuttles + Mirror Leeta Boff etc.
    If I remember correctly, it was minimum 10$ for the Guardian and a bunch of shuttles + the Mirror Leeta Boff (for the first couple thousand people who donated). Which WAS a much better deal in comparison.
    But yeah, you can't really compare 2 different charity campaigns.
    It's Apples and Oranges.


    I got the Guardian package, and can't say I was disappointed even though I never really flew the Guardian much. And I'm getting a lot of use out of the Leeta Boff, she's great on ground missions, casting a photonic copy of herself in combat. Handy little ability.

    But yeah, not right to compare, and expect the same or better out of completely different charity drives.
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  • sekritagentsekritagent Member Posts: 510 Arc User
    I'm not anti-charity, I already stated I'm against a lazy charity campaign like this one as opposed to the last one which was very good. I bought the Mirror Runabout and everything I could in it because it was a good value for me and a good gift to charity.

    Please stuff your false moral outrage.
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  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,659 Arc User
    leemwatson wrote: »
    Does anybody know what percent of donations actually go to the children as opposed to people who work for the charity paying themselves? I try to only donate to charities where the majority of the money is actually going to the cause, not being kept by the organization.

    Don't know actually as I've never heard of them, being from the UK doesn't help. However, when it comes to helping sick kids, I have no problem.

    What a strange statement. Of course nobody "has a problem" helping sick children. But we should try to use the charities that give the biggest percent of our money to them, because that does the most good. So I'm just asking if anybody knows what percent of our donations this charity gives. I mean, you wouldn't choose to give your money to a group that keeps 90% of it, when you could give it to one that keeps only 10%, would you? People should actually care enough to look into these things before choosing where to donate.

    Fair point. I give to Child's Play since I can pick a hospital and go to their Amazon gift registry. I buy toys and games, they go directly to the hospital.

    Here is the FAQ page for Extra Life, the money apparently goes directly to a network of hospitals to use as they see fit:

    http://www.extra-life.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=cms.page&id=1103#Where does the money go?
  • leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 5,461 Arc User
    You know the idea is to donate to charity right? It's not a discount bin sale....

    Ouch !

    I would say the same, but in OP's defense, he may be (wrongly) comparing this with the last charity event for the Mirror Guardian + bunch of shuttles + Mirror Leeta Boff etc.
    If I remember correctly, it was minimum 10$ for the Guardian and a bunch of shuttles + the Mirror Leeta Boff (for the first couple thousand people who donated). Which WAS a much better deal in comparison.
    But yeah, you can't really compare 2 different charity campaigns.
    It's Apples and Oranges.


    I got the Guardian package, and can't say I was disappointed even though I never really flew the Guardian much. And I'm getting a lot of use out of the Leeta Boff, she's great on ground missions, casting a photonic copy of herself in combat. Handy little ability.

    But yeah, not right to compare, and expect the same or better out of completely different charity drives.

    Indeed. The last one did 'award' you with considerably more, but it's a completely different Charity. I just want the EMH to complete my collection :smiley:
    "You don't want to patrol!? You don't want to escort!? You don't want to defend the Federation's Starbases!? Then why are you flying my Starships!? If you were a Klingon you'd be killed on the spot, but lucky for you.....you WERE in Starfleet. Let's see how New Zealand Penal Colony suits you." Adm A. Necheyev.
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  • neoakiraiineoakiraii Member Posts: 7,468 Arc User
    I only donate to charities so i can get stuff in return...Why should all those toys for tots kids get those awesome action figures
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  • zellkarrathzellkarrath Member Posts: 182 Arc User
    Where can I find this promotion? I haven't seen it anywhere.
  • tigerariestigeraries Member Posts: 3,492 Arc User
    coldnapalm wrote: »
    Does anyone know what happen if you own part of a pack since normally you cant buy packs you have parts of.

    I would think you'd be SOL and have to sell/trade the code to someone else.
  • tacticalrooktacticalrook Member Posts: 810 Arc User
    edited November 2016
    Who in the world came up with this terribad idea? Listen, I'm all about charities and even worked for one for years. But these rewards have got to be some kind of joke. There's no reason in the world to spend more than the $15 on the EMH boff (is it the Photonic Science Boff) if you didn't have it already.

    The upper tiers are just poorly conceived. There's no way in the world some R&D packs and a title (Oh My God guys) are worth $10 when these are pretty much regular store prices from there. Oh look for $100 you're putting in the T6 Mega Flagship Bundle...which is $120 anyway and you would have gotten a 20% discount at the next ship sale.

    Yes, I get that "technically" Cryptic is donating but from a player perspective, we're pretty much paying the same amount we would have for the stuff, just changing who we're paying from Cryptic to the Extra Life Foundation.

    Here's a hint: if you want to drive serious donations, you're going to have to do a lot better than a weaksauce dev blog post and barely watered down prices for non-exclusive junk. The Anti-Bullying one was actually a good version of this, so what on New Romulus were you guys thinking with this round?

    It's interesting how you seem to consider donating (giving) to be the same as buying or paying (spending) for something from them. What charity did you work for, exactly?
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  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,659 Arc User
    Where can I find this promotion? I haven't seen it anywhere.

    Extra Life story at the top of the NEWS page.

  • tigerariestigeraries Member Posts: 3,492 Arc User
    It's interesting how you seem to consider donating (giving) to be the same as buying or paying (spending) for something from them. What charity did you work for, exactly?

    I hate to break it to you but charities are big business... folks can make buku bucks. There are folks who "work" and make a very nice living only doing charity.

    personally I see any type of monetary transaction as business. donating time however is charity... ie working on homes, soup kitchen or cleaning up sites/beaches. but to each their own.
  • tacticalrooktacticalrook Member Posts: 810 Arc User
    tigeraries wrote: »
    It's interesting how you seem to consider donating (giving) to be the same as buying or paying (spending) for something from them. What charity did you work for, exactly?

    I hate to break it to you but charities are big business... folks can make buku bucks. There are folks who "work" and make a very nice living only doing charity.

    personally I see any type of monetary transaction as business. donating time however is charity... ie working on homes, soup kitchen or cleaning up sites/beaches. but to each their own.

    You've got a particularly cynical perspective on charities, friend.
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  • xyquarzexyquarze Member Posts: 2,120 Arc User
    tigeraries wrote: »
    I hate to break it to you but charities are big business... folks can make buku bucks. There are folks who "work" and make a very nice living only doing charity.

    If you mean that there are charities out there which keep money back to earn themselves a nice profit, or their CEOs, you may be right. However, to count as a charity (with also the benefits it brings), in most countries you have to meet certain thresholds which are regularily checked. About those running them: yes, large charities are a lot like large businesses with the work they generate. If you think an organization chunneling money from (a) the donor to (b) those in need of it should comprise of volunteers only to qualify as a charity, you'd probably be left with a few neighbourhood help clubs.
    tigeraries wrote: »
    lol nice meme... but hate to break it to ya but you do plenty of charity... it's call taxes. it covers other peoples health care and other social/welfare programs... just think of the children!

    Taxes are not charity. While some of them may go to charitable purposes, they are mostly to pay for common needs a society has (or thinks it has), many of which you are using yourself. It is more of a subscription fee for services like roads, police, yes also health care. But taxes spent on the poor (or those displaced by disaster or similar) are not out of charity itself, but because society thinks that those people still deserve a certain standard of living, like food or no toothaches. Charity is when you think you personally could spare some.
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  • tigerariestigeraries Member Posts: 3,492 Arc User
    You've got a particularly cynical perspective on charities, friend.

    Money can ruin friendships and even split family... never underestimate what money can do to people. Should keep things separate from money.

    Besides recent news about the activities of a certain major charity isnt helping. I dont doubt the "good works" they do... they just help enrich the lives of a few select few along the way...
  • byozuma#0956 byozuma Member Posts: 502 Arc User
    edited November 2016
    Why should it matter what you get from donating for a good cause. I've donated to every charity drive Square ran for Japanese disaster relief, all I got for it was a hat for my character in their MMO XI that did jack all save show to everyone else in game that I gave to help disaster relief in Japan. Heck, I wish I could have donated to the last disaster they had over there but kind of hard to do from literally halfway around the world and Square not running another drive for it. Why do you need things to justify charity? It's charity, a gesture of good will for the benefit of people you will likely never meet. If that's not good enough then I don't know what could possibly move your dead heart.
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  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,659 Arc User
    Their own search failed me, but Google found the Charity Navigator page for Children's Miracle Network, the charity that runs Extra Life:

    https://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.summary&orgid=5756
  • byozuma#0956 byozuma Member Posts: 502 Arc User
    Looks like a charity worth donating to to me, rewards be damned.
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