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That's the logical progression isn't it?
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They'd probably have to talk to the guy who designed the NX Refit as it was scheduled to appear but never officially did. With our luck the NX Refit is in the same boat as the Vesta in terms of who owns the design.
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Playable Phoenix shuttle? Why not.
Also: Why would this be a problem? People have favorite ships. People who play this game want to fly their favorite ships. The idea that something is too old doesn't exist, never existed. So let that go. I'm flying around in a T6 Daedalus. In a few days people will be flying around in a T6 Connie. People have been flying around in an ENT era end-game T'laru, as well as an ENT era end-game Somraw, for ages. The Xindi ships are end-game. The D'Kyr is from ENT. ENT era ships are already populating STO's end-game. The NX would fit right in.
Not to mention, these are spaceships, who's function is bound even less by their looks than modern watercraft. Spacecraft that are designed and built by a culture that has the technology to tailor-make materials at the molecular level -- they could very well make a deadly warship that is also a nigh-perfect replica of a 17th-century English Frigate. Not that that'd be terribly practical, mind you, but building a 22nd-century NX with modern internal components would be a snap for Starfleet.
"Sir, um, we have hit a bit of a snag in regards to replicating a 23rd-century Constitution-class ship..."
"And that would be?"
"Well, you see, the technology used to apply paint to the outer hull was lost somewhere in the early 2270s..."
Well... if you look at the flavor text for the in game NX... it IS as you just described. Its not an actual NX, it is a replica using 25th Century tech.
http://sto.gamepedia.com/NX_Class_Light_Escort
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Technically they aren't even adding a true Tier 6 TOS Constiution class to the game, or even a T6 T'Liss or D7. They are Temporal Ships which thanks to timey wimey tech from the future only look like older ships on the outside.
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I'd be bothered a bit if more and more faction ships end in lockboxes, though. I mean, sure, they are "outliers", that don't quite make sense to be explicitely retrofitted for the 25th century - but how far will Cryptic stretch this?
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Eh... it wouldn't be the first time as the the temporal science vessels were faction made.
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There's a reason why people don't get that. For years anytime anyone EVER posted that it was eviscerated on the forums by the Anti-T6-Connie crowd.
At this stage, it's just been too long and too often smacked down for that argument to carry weight over the "too OLD!" clique that's dominated these forums pushing the logic that age of ship binds and restricts the tier the ship can be placed in.
I mean just look at the ship tiers right now. That backs up the Too OLD Logic so well, right?
the phoenix will obviously be a t10 eventually
How is it forum logic when the TV series on numerous occasions officially retired vessels from active service (like the Constitution class in the TNG era)?
There is a limit on how far you can go to update an older vessel with modern technology. Take for example the challenge of getting a Spanish Galleon ready for modern naval combat today or race preparing a 70's Jag for next year's Le Mans (which demonstrate the universal design problem extant through ALL examples of this, without the convenient escape of "MAGIC FICTIONAL TECHNOLOGY MAKES ALL PROBLEMS OBSOLETE!")
It could be done but at enormous costs, compromised results (if any), and great personal initiative. After a certain point you might as well just build something new (which is a thumbs up to any in-head-canon explanation for why the top spec [T6] D7/T'liss/Connie are not in general circulation in 2410, if TNG through VOY wasn't already sufficient.)
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They aren't refits or retrofits or upgrades, they're entirely new 31st century ships that have the look of 23d century ships. It's more akin to building a brand new car with all the modern options in a 57 Chevy body style, and not taking an old 57 Chevy and trying to upgrade it's existing parts to be comparable to a newer car.
And would they be add a NX bridge that also works for other ships? or would it only be for the NX?
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http://www.morgan-motor.co.uk/
A better question is probably *why* a 25c / 26c / 31c fleet would build ships that were cosmetically identical to historic versions, but the extant temporal war provides a perfect answer as well.
The exception would seem to be Klingon designs, which I suspect are as much about tradition and the fear that iconic Klingon ships inspire in lesser races as any practical consideration.
But does it really matter?
The thing that matters to Connie fans is that they get their endgame Connie.
People that demand more immersion must be ignoring practically 80 % of the ships in the game already, they can add another one to the list of ships they pretend don't exist, or come up with theories why they "make sense".
But for Cryptic the thinnest veneer of plausibility is sufficient.