first off I did everything that everyone said and you still don't get it I ONLY GET 500 ZEN a month what good is 4 to possibly 5 keys are going to do for me ? I craft and craft and sell and sell doffs and what not hell throw in the kitchen sink while we at it here and I still didn't come up with enough EC to get the ships it will take me months upon months I don't like waiting I hate waiting I hate slow progress I am the type of person that wants things done in one day or less I have very very little patience and quite frankly its rather thin these days and its getting to the point that the VA wants to step in cause they think its triggering my PTSD and you do realize government trumps all games including rules just a FYI so I am trying my best to not give them and excuse to have me put into a psych ward for a few days.
wow tuff guy I'm not trying to do anything but state my opinions I swear players like you that say things like this to me only makes me wonder if players like you are credit farmers that farm credits to sell them for real cash sounds to me only credit farmers tend to say things like this to make themselves self righteous
Not trying to sound 'tough,' but in comparison to your whiny little **** sessions, I guess anyone sounds tough.
As for me being a 'credit farmer,' that's hysterical and thanks for the laughs. The funny thing is, as long as I have played this game, earning mass amounts of EC is one thing I'm actually not good at. I would rate my EC earning ability as just slightly better then 'pathetic.' There are people on this game that out earn me by hundreds of times over or even more. I simply suck at earning EC.
Despite that, I still was easily able to gather up enough to buy the Vengeance, and I have enough back already to easily afford a Connie if I wanted one. It's been pointed out to you on many occasions how easy it actually is to get these ships, but instead of using the advice, you choose instead to carry on like a little crybaby.
The problem isn't Cryptic, it isn't the community, it isn't the game.. the problem is you. Either learn how to not suck and shut the hell up, or go suck at some other game.
Opening a new thread every day won't make you not suck.
first off I did everything that everyone said and you still don't get it I ONLY GET 500 ZEN a month what good is 4 to possibly 5 keys are going to do for me ? I craft and craft and sell and sell doffs and what not hell throw in the kitchen sink while we at it here and I still didn't come up with enough EC to get the ships it will take me months upon months I don't like waiting I hate waiting I hate slow progress I am the type of person that wants things done in one day or less I have very very little patience and quite frankly its rather thin these days and its getting to the point that the VA wants to step in cause they think its triggering my PTSD and you do realize government trumps all games including rules just a FYI so I am trying my best to not give them and excuse to have me put into a psych ward for a few days.
wow tuff guy I'm not trying to do anything but state my opinions I swear players like you that say things like this to me only makes me wonder if players like you are credit farmers that farm credits to sell them for real cash sounds to me only credit farmers tend to say things like this to make themselves self righteous
Not trying to sound 'tough,' but in comparison to your whiny little **** sessions, I guess anyone sounds tough.
As for me being a 'credit farmer,' that's hysterical and thanks for the laughs. The funny thing is, as long as I have played this game, earning mass amounts of EC is one thing I'm actually not good at. I would rate my EC earning ability as just slightly better then 'pathetic.' There are people on this game that out earn me by hundreds of times over or even more. I simply suck at earning EC.
Despite that, I still was easily able to gather up enough to buy the Vengeance, and I have enough back already to easily afford a Connie if I wanted one. It's been pointed out to you on many occasions how easy it actually is to get these ships, but instead of using the advice, you choose instead to carry on like a little crybaby.
The problem isn't Cryptic, it isn't the community, it isn't the game.. the problem is you. Either learn how to not suck and shut the hell up, or go suck at some other game.
Opening a new thread every day won't make you not suck.
Matt Damon is awesome. For sure.
Matt Damon? I thought that was Chris Pratt?
Who?
I can tell just by looking at that image, it's a screenshot of the movie 'The Happening'. Which really sucked.
Ahh TRIBBLE. It was Mark Wahlberg, not Matt Damon. They look alike. I even get John Cusak and Edward Norton mixed up.
first off I did everything that everyone said and you still don't get it I ONLY GET 500 ZEN a month what good is 4 to possibly 5 keys are going to do for me ? I craft and craft and sell and sell doffs and what not hell throw in the kitchen sink while we at it here and I still didn't come up with enough EC to get the ships it will take me months upon months I don't like waiting I hate waiting I hate slow progress I am the type of person that wants things done in one day or less I have very very little patience and quite frankly its rather thin these days and its getting to the point that the VA wants to step in cause they think its triggering my PTSD and you do realize government trumps all games including rules just a FYI so I am trying my best to not give them and excuse to have me put into a psych ward for a few days.
wow tuff guy I'm not trying to do anything but state my opinions I swear players like you that say things like this to me only makes me wonder if players like you are credit farmers that farm credits to sell them for real cash sounds to me only credit farmers tend to say things like this to make themselves self righteous
Not trying to sound 'tough,' but in comparison to your whiny little **** sessions, I guess anyone sounds tough.
As for me being a 'credit farmer,' that's hysterical and thanks for the laughs. The funny thing is, as long as I have played this game, earning mass amounts of EC is one thing I'm actually not good at. I would rate my EC earning ability as just slightly better then 'pathetic.' There are people on this game that out earn me by hundreds of times over or even more. I simply suck at earning EC.
Despite that, I still was easily able to gather up enough to buy the Vengeance, and I have enough back already to easily afford a Connie if I wanted one. It's been pointed out to you on many occasions how easy it actually is to get these ships, but instead of using the advice, you choose instead to carry on like a little crybaby.
The problem isn't Cryptic, it isn't the community, it isn't the game.. the problem is you. Either learn how to not suck and shut the hell up, or go suck at some other game.
Opening a new thread every day won't make you not suck.
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When you say 'have no reasonable right to command', I assume you also are referring to the Lobi Store (as for the Vengeance).
Well that being said, what about the Wells, and the Mobius and their other Faction counterparts? That may have been true for those 29th Century Ships, but now we have 31st Century cross-faction ones that we can routinely buy from the C-Store. Doesn't really hold now anymore.
And the clincher, the Dyson Science Destroyer in the Lobi Store. We can reasonably assume that as we can buy their better versions from that same C-Store.
And if this had been an American Football game there would be so many flags down for piling on.
'But to be logical is not to be right', and 'nothing' on God's earth could ever 'make it' right!'
Judge Dan Haywood
'As l speak now, the words are forming in my head.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
You are wrong because the method of releasing the T6 Connie was not the choice of Cryptic/PWE, it was the choice of CBS/Paramount and Cryptic's only choice was do it this way or don't get the ship at all, no argument will change that.
not to mention, three of them are still owned by the creators, and those creators aren't giving it up without huge sums of money. the rest are ugly as all hell, one isn't even a trek ship, but a "trekified" frigate from (forum won't let me put the name in) and the only good one is the Kirov....if that.
I feel that cryptic/PE should of picked different ships to be lock box ships instead of the iconic T6 connie and the kelvin dreadnought but no they wanted to put these iconic ships in a lock box instead which was the dumbest thing ever did.
here is a list of ships they could of chosen and I doubt we see these ships either and if we do it better not be a d.a.m.n. lock box.
any just any of these ships would of been more suited for the stupid lock box not the iconic ships the T6 connie and the kelvin dreadnought should of be Z store ships point blan period its not like Cryptic/PE would of lost any money with it they would of made enough money and profit to satisfy Cryptic/PE and CBS but no only the greedy could get them and the credit farmers cause all they doing is opening the boxes selling the ships on the exchange for EC then selling the EC for cash and that right there is a clear cut violation of the rules of this game.
they probably recognized half of these are just reskinned versions of the same ship, and the rest wouldnt sell for anything... some of the worst fanboi designs I've seen in this list.
I don't know the exact numbers cause after all my bills and child support is paid up and what not I doubt I probably won't be able to cause ill only have $100.00 to $150.00 left in my name to survive on that's not including $15.00 in food stamps .
If that's your financial situation, then you shouldn't be spending money on video games. Where the ship is sold is irrelevant, if this is your current state, then it's irresponsible of you to squander your funds on a video game. If that's true, then I hope things get better for you, but you have to realize that STO is not the best use of your limited funds.
great! so you WOULD buy the ship for $50 if it were in the zen store and you had the money.
well, i have some really good news for you! you CAN buy the ship for $50, right now! here is how:
step 1: buy 5000 zen. that is going to cost you $50. you know, that same amount you said you would pay for the ship in the zen store?
step 2: buy 50 lock box keys with you zen.
step 3: sell those 50 keys on the exchange for 5.6 mil each. that will net you 280 mil EC
step 4: take that 280 mil EC and BUY the connie on the exchange.
see, you CAN buy the connie for $50, just like if it were for sale in the zen store.
now if you didnt undestand any of the steps above, just ask and i will explain it for you ok?
I respect your desire to help, but this guy has opened at least 3 threads on this topic already. He's been told this time and time again and simply refuses to listen. He in one post says he's completely broke and can't pay anything, then in other posts he says he's a lifetime subscriber and says things like what he told you, that he would pay $50 for it. The OP has serious issues. He's just spewing random stuff and he'll make an excuse for anything you tell him. Obviously, your advice was absolutely spot on, but he'll either ignore it or give you some bizarre reason why he can't do it.
...I don't like waiting I hate waiting I hate slow progress I am the type of person that wants things done in one day or less I have very very little patience...
Brother, I mean this in all seriousness from one combat veteran to another (Afghanistan 03/Iraq 06-07) you seem to be fixated on this ship and obtaining it, at a somewhat unhealthy level. I implore you to both relax and take a break from this, and talk to the VA about it and allow them to help you. I'm not messing with you in anyway, shape or form I truly want everything to work out for you in this respect. Please let the folks at the VA help you cope with this TRIBBLE before it gets worse. Reach out to me in game ANYTIME if you want to chat, BS or vent.
you seem to be fixated on this ship and obtaining it, at a somewhat unhealthy level. I implore you to both relax and take a break from this, and talk to the VA about it and allow them to help you. I'm not messing with you in anyway, shape or form I truly want everything to work out for you in this respect. Please let the folks at the VA help you cope with this **** before it gets worse.
This. You need to speak to someone who can help you, OP, not keep stressing yourself out with sto and these forums.
I'm unconvinced "the dumbest thing they ever did" and the "Best selling Lockbox in the history of the game" should really be used to talk about the same thing.
first off I did everything that everyone said and you still don't get it I ONLY GET 500 ZEN a month what good is 4 to possibly 5 keys are going to do for me ? I craft and craft and sell and sell doffs and what not hell throw in the kitchen sink while we at it here and I still didn't come up with enough EC to get the ships it will take me months upon months I don't like waiting I hate waiting I hate slow progress I am the type of person that wants things done in one day or less I have very very little patience and quite frankly its rather thin these days and its getting to the point that the VA wants to step in cause they think its triggering my PTSD and you do realize government trumps all games including rules just a FYI so I am trying my best to not give them and excuse to have me put into a psych ward for a few days.
I do not want to sound demeaning but it is within each person's responsibility to create change if that is what they want. I don't know why you enlisted and that answer is something you own yourself. You do not have to share it with us if you do not want to. However, whether you were forced into enlisting or not it was still a decision that you took. Most certainly, you cannot be held responsible for getting PTSD but you can most certainly do something about it through rehabilitation. If that is not available to you then it is your responsibility to either join your union or be active in these kinds of questions to make rehab available if you already are a member.
As for money, it may not be easy to find a different job and it may not be so easy to quit your current job because certain responsibilities like child support and putting food on your own table and roof over your own head. However, even if we do not get the jobs we apply or have sufficient education it is still our responsibility to at least apply if we want something better or more fulfilling.
Your situation and thread aside, I would be careful with throwing your personal life and situation around on the Internet to make an impact such as this. I am not talking about integrity right now. It is not wrong to mention your life situation if that is what you feel like sharing but a lot of people on the Internet do so to get sympathy etc. Some people blow it out of proportion too. Their health conditions may be legit but personally I consider it pretty low to use one's condition like that to rally people to one's cause. Too many people do so that their credibility is gone and then as a result they ruin it for everyone else who legitimately want to share and discuss their health concerns. As I often say to people at work, "this is the wrong forum for this type of discussion and debate."
I have a lot of respect for soldiers and police officers who do the courageous things that other people decided to avoid for whatever reason. But I also do not have respect for soldiers and police officers who throw their role in the world around and believe that they be entitled and privileged because they think that they are everyone's gift and is doing everyone a favor. I admire the dutiful people who can go to work whatever that may be and then come home and be leveled as well as down to earth without elevating themselves above everyone else.
Now as for your topic, either you get the two ships or you don't. Whatever choice you make is something you will have to live with. We cannot live with that decision for you and if that's what you believe then I would say that you need to rethink your reasoning.
There are a lot of things I want in this game. Some of them I find time for and muster effort to acquire. Others things I simply put lower on my list in order to prioritize my needs and what I want. Some things I even ignore because they may be fun and cool to have but I do not have the time or resources to get them... or they are simply not that important for me to go out of my way to get them. You need to identify what you want, what you need, what you can be without as well as what you can acquire and what you cannot acquire.
The spirit of Lt. Commander Gary Mitchell is here with us in this Thread.
MITCHELL: He's a fool. A fool. He'd seen those points and he hadn't noticed their condition.
MITCHELL: You fools! Soon I'll squash you like insects.
MITCHELL: Why don't you kill me then? Mister Spock is right and you're a fool if you can't see it.
MITCHELL: You should have killed me while you could, James. Command and compassion is a fool's mixture.
MITCHELL: A visitor. A very foolish man.
'But to be logical is not to be right', and 'nothing' on God's earth could ever 'make it' right!'
Judge Dan Haywood
'As l speak now, the words are forming in my head.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
Those ships the OP linked are some class A fleet trash if I ever saw any. They don't even follow some of the ship rules in design and most importantly, Cryptic would have to pay the guy money to use the ships and I honestly do NOT believe that guy should get cash for the junk he super glued together.
That said, I'm all for them adding more Cstore ships, but they are generally "normal" ships were as the special ships like the T6 Connie and others have always been Lock Box and Lobi store items...and they should be as the designers put extra effort into them and deserve some extra cash in return.
I feel that cryptic/PE should of picked different ships to be lock box ships
That's cool and all, but they didn't. They went with those ships, and the lockbox is out and there's no changing that. So just push on past that and suggest those ships for future stuff.
Or as me and my friends always say: "Why not both?"
I don't like waiting I hate waiting I hate slow progress I am the type of person that wants things done in one day or less I have very very little patience
Ah, we get to the root of your problem. You want it NOW!
Patience is a virtue, my friend. All I will get when it starts coming in (since I'm a new LTS) will be the stipend as well, plus the Arc Quest zen I get every time I make 5k exp points (which also takes around a month). So you could say that I'll be getting around 1000 zen per month.
Will still take time to acquire some things I want, but I knew that and am prepared for it. As for the JJConnie/Avenger...Not interested. They may be awesomesauce, but I have other ships that will get me though this content without salivating over those two particular ships.
You've opened thread upon thread of this same subject and have had them closed. Stop already. You're not going to get them to change their minds about the Connie and Avenger.
Now a LTS and loving it.
Just because you spend money on this game, it does not entitle you to be a jerk if things don't go your way.
I have come to the conclusion that I have a memory like Etch-A-Sketch. I shake my head and forget everything.
Someone hit me with a neuralizer please, I want to forget ever seeing most of those abominations ...
Agreed, didn't like any of those designs.
"I'm not big on telepaths myself. I'm not big on guns either. But if everyone else has them, I want to make sure I can get my hands on the biggest one I can."
I feel that cryptic/PE should of picked different ships to be lock box ships instead of the iconic T6 connie and the kelvin dreadnought but no they wanted to put these iconic ships in a lock box instead which was the dumbest thing ever did.
here is a list of ships they could of chosen and I doubt we see these ships either and if we do it better not be a d.a.m.n. lock box.
any just any of these ships would of been more suited for the stupid lock box not the iconic ships the T6 connie and the kelvin dreadnought should of be Z store ships point blan period its not like Cryptic/PE would of lost any money with it they would of made enough money and profit to satisfy Cryptic/PE and CBS but no only the greedy could get them and the credit farmers cause all they doing is opening the boxes selling the ships on the exchange for EC then selling the EC for cash and that right there is a clear cut violation of the rules of this game.
I wouldn't call the JJprise Iconic far from it. Matt Jefferies design is the iconic one that most of the world knows as The Enterprise. After all it is the one in the Smithsonian not the JJprise.
I feel that cryptic/PE should of picked different ships to be lock box ships instead of the iconic T6 connie and the kelvin dreadnought but no they wanted to put these iconic ships in a lock box instead which was the dumbest thing ever did.
here is a list of ships they could of chosen and I doubt we see these ships either and if we do it better not be a d.a.m.n. lock box.
any just any of these ships would of been more suited for the stupid lock box not the iconic ships the T6 connie and the kelvin dreadnought should of be Z store ships point blan period its not like Cryptic/PE would of lost any money with it they would of made enough money and profit to satisfy Cryptic/PE and CBS but no only the greedy could get them and the credit farmers cause all they doing is opening the boxes selling the ships on the exchange for EC then selling the EC for cash and that right there is a clear cut violation of the rules of this game.
I wouldn't call the JJprise Iconic far from it. Matt Jefferies design is the iconic one that most of the world knows as The Enterprise. After all it is the one in the Smithsonian not the JJprise.
That's like saying you wouldn't call Miles Morales Spider-man.
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Matt Damon? I thought that was Chris Pratt?
Who?
I can tell just by looking at that image, it's a screenshot of the movie 'The Happening'. Which really sucked.
Ahh TRIBBLE. It was Mark Wahlberg, not Matt Damon. They look alike. I even get John Cusak and Edward Norton mixed up.
"When diplomacy fails, there's only one alternative - violence. Force must be applied without apology. It's the Starfleet way." - Captain Janeway
#Support Mirror Universe I.S.S. Prefixes
Well that being said, what about the Wells, and the Mobius and their other Faction counterparts? That may have been true for those 29th Century Ships, but now we have 31st Century cross-faction ones that we can routinely buy from the C-Store. Doesn't really hold now anymore.
And the clincher, the Dyson Science Destroyer in the Lobi Store. We can reasonably assume that as we can buy their better versions from that same C-Store.
And if this had been an American Football game there would be so many flags down for piling on.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
not to mention, three of them are still owned by the creators, and those creators aren't giving it up without huge sums of money. the rest are ugly as all hell, one isn't even a trek ship, but a "trekified" frigate from (forum won't let me put the name in) and the only good one is the Kirov....if that.
they probably recognized half of these are just reskinned versions of the same ship, and the rest wouldnt sell for anything... some of the worst fanboi designs I've seen in this list.
what has been seen...
If that's your financial situation, then you shouldn't be spending money on video games. Where the ship is sold is irrelevant, if this is your current state, then it's irresponsible of you to squander your funds on a video game. If that's true, then I hope things get better for you, but you have to realize that STO is not the best use of your limited funds.
I respect your desire to help, but this guy has opened at least 3 threads on this topic already. He's been told this time and time again and simply refuses to listen. He in one post says he's completely broke and can't pay anything, then in other posts he says he's a lifetime subscriber and says things like what he told you, that he would pay $50 for it. The OP has serious issues. He's just spewing random stuff and he'll make an excuse for anything you tell him. Obviously, your advice was absolutely spot on, but he'll either ignore it or give you some bizarre reason why he can't do it.
Stop fighting it.. you need serious help. I'm actually not being mean.. I honestly think you could use it.
Obviously, MMOs are not for you.
Message me in-game (@tm706) for help
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This. You need to speak to someone who can help you, OP, not keep stressing yourself out with sto and these forums.
I do not want to sound demeaning but it is within each person's responsibility to create change if that is what they want. I don't know why you enlisted and that answer is something you own yourself. You do not have to share it with us if you do not want to. However, whether you were forced into enlisting or not it was still a decision that you took. Most certainly, you cannot be held responsible for getting PTSD but you can most certainly do something about it through rehabilitation. If that is not available to you then it is your responsibility to either join your union or be active in these kinds of questions to make rehab available if you already are a member.
As for money, it may not be easy to find a different job and it may not be so easy to quit your current job because certain responsibilities like child support and putting food on your own table and roof over your own head. However, even if we do not get the jobs we apply or have sufficient education it is still our responsibility to at least apply if we want something better or more fulfilling.
Your situation and thread aside, I would be careful with throwing your personal life and situation around on the Internet to make an impact such as this. I am not talking about integrity right now. It is not wrong to mention your life situation if that is what you feel like sharing but a lot of people on the Internet do so to get sympathy etc. Some people blow it out of proportion too. Their health conditions may be legit but personally I consider it pretty low to use one's condition like that to rally people to one's cause. Too many people do so that their credibility is gone and then as a result they ruin it for everyone else who legitimately want to share and discuss their health concerns. As I often say to people at work, "this is the wrong forum for this type of discussion and debate."
I have a lot of respect for soldiers and police officers who do the courageous things that other people decided to avoid for whatever reason. But I also do not have respect for soldiers and police officers who throw their role in the world around and believe that they be entitled and privileged because they think that they are everyone's gift and is doing everyone a favor. I admire the dutiful people who can go to work whatever that may be and then come home and be leveled as well as down to earth without elevating themselves above everyone else.
Now as for your topic, either you get the two ships or you don't. Whatever choice you make is something you will have to live with. We cannot live with that decision for you and if that's what you believe then I would say that you need to rethink your reasoning.
There are a lot of things I want in this game. Some of them I find time for and muster effort to acquire. Others things I simply put lower on my list in order to prioritize my needs and what I want. Some things I even ignore because they may be fun and cool to have but I do not have the time or resources to get them... or they are simply not that important for me to go out of my way to get them. You need to identify what you want, what you need, what you can be without as well as what you can acquire and what you cannot acquire.
Right Way:
Should HAVE
Could HAVE
Would HAVE
Wrong Way:
Should OF
Could OF
Would OF
You look like a fool.
PS: "Better Than" vs "Better Then" drives me bonkers, too.
MITCHELL: He's a fool. A fool. He'd seen those points and he hadn't noticed their condition.
MITCHELL: You fools! Soon I'll squash you like insects.
MITCHELL: Why don't you kill me then? Mister Spock is right and you're a fool if you can't see it.
MITCHELL: You should have killed me while you could, James. Command and compassion is a fool's mixture.
MITCHELL: A visitor. A very foolish man.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
That said, I'm all for them adding more Cstore ships, but they are generally "normal" ships were as the special ships like the T6 Connie and others have always been Lock Box and Lobi store items...and they should be as the designers put extra effort into them and deserve some extra cash in return.
That's cool and all, but they didn't. They went with those ships, and the lockbox is out and there's no changing that. So just push on past that and suggest those ships for future stuff.
Or as me and my friends always say: "Why not both?"
You can either make peace with that, or continue to complain futility about a ship that's already sailed. Don't be that guy.
My recommendation at this point is to make friends with that player who's won a TRIBBLE ton of em and ask him for one. Forgot his name sorry.
OR ask fleetmates to help you save for it.
Again, I wish you luck getting the ship.
Ah, we get to the root of your problem. You want it NOW!
Patience is a virtue, my friend. All I will get when it starts coming in (since I'm a new LTS) will be the stipend as well, plus the Arc Quest zen I get every time I make 5k exp points (which also takes around a month). So you could say that I'll be getting around 1000 zen per month.
Will still take time to acquire some things I want, but I knew that and am prepared for it. As for the JJConnie/Avenger...Not interested. They may be awesomesauce, but I have other ships that will get me though this content without salivating over those two particular ships.
You've opened thread upon thread of this same subject and have had them closed. Stop already. You're not going to get them to change their minds about the Connie and Avenger.
Agreed, didn't like any of those designs.
I wouldn't call the JJprise Iconic far from it. Matt Jefferies design is the iconic one that most of the world knows as The Enterprise. After all it is the one in the Smithsonian not the JJprise.
That's like saying you wouldn't call Miles Morales Spider-man.
Don't be spacist yo.