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ragnar0x
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So we got T6 connie, T6 new ships, so when will this beauty gonna be upgraded to T6?
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However, as a huge Vesta fan, I'd buy a T6 version immediately, should it appear some day.
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That said, the Eternal (and all of the 31st Century ships for that matter) has left a bad taste in my mouth with having NO skin customization outside of choosing a color/pattern and if you're looking to get them just keep in mind that you're pretty much buying the ships "as is" in terms of aesthetics.
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All the stats would be the exact same.
Well that is all we're getting, as afaik talks with mark Rademaker (ship designer and owner) broke down for the T6 version...
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Well I guess that leaves the Eternal as the closest thing to a Vesta Successor (or even the closest the KDF and Romulans get to a Vesta period), that'll we'll ever get.
Actually the Chronos feels like a Cruiser verison of the Vesta.
That's such a huge slap in the face to the community you know? Makes me think Rademaker needs to be told what's what by the true trek fans that keep the community going.
In much the same way the Eternal has the layout/slots/whatevers that count as the guts of what a T6 Vesta would be ... the Nautilus (or you know, my all-time fave, the T6 Daedalus) has an extremely similar layout for what a T6 Nova would be. The more tactical focus on the BOFF seating. The high turnrate. The small size of the ship. The heavier tactical console focus.
A T6 Nova would be difficult to differentiate from a T6 Nautilus, outside of specialization seating.
So what spec seating would make a Nova worth doing at T6? (Because I think the answer to that question is really the core of where the feasibility for getting that ship made really comes from).
The Nova as Retrofit would probably not get a full pilot seating with pilot maneuvers, only a Lt. or Lt.Cmdr Pilot slot. But that would already be neat, I think.
Ahhhh. That's what I was missing!
Ok. Carry on.
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No I'm sorry, that's not going to float here. I've been flying a T5-U Vesta for PvP purposes for about 3 years now.
It is not exactly the same.
Where's the specialization ?
INTEL T6 Vesta, please.
It's high time I didn't have to face new specialization after new specialization in my 3 year old T5-U ship, thank you very much.
No Specialization seating = Not exactly the same, at all.
It's not close at all.
No Vesta console set. This is huge, as I always slot 2 of the 3 consoles on my PvP Vesta.
No Aux Cannons. Haven't used them myself for some time now, but they are a nice option. And change of pace from normal energy builds.
Would love more varieties of Aux Weapons.
And would love a T6 Intel Vesta.
As for a T6 Nova, I'd prefer Intel myself. But that's another great T6 candidate. Whatever specialization seating it gets.
Pilot is the least complimentary of a Science Vessel. First, the specialization is heavily geared towards PVP. Most of it has zero bearing on regular play. It doesn't improve the performance of a SCI Vessel.
Intel and Temporal fit Science Vessels, especially Temporal. Intel will help with heavy debuffing but access to OSS is outstanding for spiking power at the right time for your Science abilities. Temporal leans heavily, heavily towards Science in the skills that help it out, so it's a very natural fit.
Command? It would barely fit and the only part that does is due to Concentrate Firepower, which many SCI Vessel builds often heavily rely on Torpedoes.
You make a good point, Nova would end up being redundant if it got Intel.
What if it was like the JHSS where you could choose either Command or Pilot Nova. That might be interesting. But right there, the Nova would become a promo ship
That would not be cool or interesting.
If Cryptic thinks there is a market for a Tier 6 Vesta and they can secure the license again, they'll find stats for it to make it different from the Temporal ship.
Good thinking.
I'd buy an Eternal if I could equip my Vesta Consoles and Aux cannons.
I don't even care about the skins. Though they would be nice to have. All the Vesta variants are gorgeous.
But I'd settle for just the consoles and Aux weapons.
While this is true, all the legal hurdles, which appear to be holding up a T6 Vesta, should already be handled by CBS and Cryptic already through the Star Trek IP license for these other ships. I'm merely giving a suggestion for a possible solution to a problem, that may or may not be real. It is entirely possible that Cryptic is hammering out the stats for a T6 Vesta right now, but if an unsolvable legal problem is preventing a T6 Vesta I think they should use what they have to give the customers what they want.
I actually still think the Phantom is the Intel version of the Defiant and the Valiant is the pilot version. I mean Cryptic could fairly easily enable the Defiant part for the Phantom. There could also be a 31st century temporal version on paper somewhere in the Cryptic offices.
Same here.
Maybe the Eternal is supposed to be the Vesta's successor, maybe not. It wouldn't really make much sense considering the U.S.S. Vesta is shown in the Tutorial as the "first of her class" - why replace a a new ship class so quickly?
I can imagine there are some legal issues, but I really hope they can and will sort all this out any time soon.
When they finally added the Vesta a while back I couldn't wait until maintenance was done and I could finally get it, I've been flying it ever since and will keep flying it until maybe, one day, there will be a T6 version of it.
Also, there really should be more customization options for the temporal ships.
I'm not going to argue that Intel and Temporal don't fit the theme of a science vessel better, but Pilot has a few abilities that are excellent compliments to a science vessel. Chief of those would probably be Lock Trajectory, to get those control/drain science abilities on target. Heck just give me that and that coolant cloud and I'm good. Those work great on EVERY ship. I'm not likely going to be giving up any Lt. Cmdr/Cmdr level BOFF slots for Pilot or anything else anyway.
But then I flew the Eternal. Up to that point, the Pathfinder and the Vesta were neck and neck as my favorite science vessels. I'll probably still fly them when I feel like it.
But the Eternal is a fine, fine ship and it's fun to fly. I even have a paint job on it that I like, even if I prefer the classic Starfleet look. It's cross-faction so it's not a Starfleet ship and I'll get over it. Best value ever. I'm going to have a hard time convincing my main to fly anything else for awhile.