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So is future guy... the future guy from Enterprise?
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Because they seem to have different objectives... Stopping the sphere builders being the many one. Not been able to travel through time another one.
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Future Guy isn't the only one out there, there could be thousands of people from that timeframe who communicate in the same way
It is implied that the Envoy is the same person as Future Guy. But even that is just an assumption.
We haven't seen the Suliban yet, and the Na'kuhl are not defeated yet. The clown known as Mirror Leeta is still flying around blaming others for her own failures and the battle against the Sphere Builders is an ongoing one so I think there's more episodes coming.
The Envoy is working towards trying to destroy the federation, whereas Future Guys motives are much more shrouded in mystery.
And Future Guy is clearly opposed to the Sphere Builders unlike the Envoy.
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I would have gone that way as well. With the current story, yeah I don't think you can eliminate any possibility. Up until the reveal I was betting the Envoy (as presented in STO) was Daniels from an alternate timeline or further in the future. That, and anything else, could still happen. But I also wouldn't be surprised if we move onto something else and the current explanation is left as is (cryptic generally doesn't linger for long on any one primary subject.)
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The one on ENT did not like the Sphere Builders, the one on STO is working with them.
The one is ENT was suppose to be Archer (as stated above)
The envoy isn't Daniels. The face thing is a tie in for how he's eventually found dead in Enterprise. Play the full missions and you'll know who the envoy is.
In that case I shall withdraw my speculative musings and go sit quietly in the corner
I never managed to catch very many episodes of Enterprise when it was first released, mostly due to a ridiculous timetable at University that for some reason scheduled mandatory lab sessions that extended into early evening. Any reruns that I do notice these days either clash with something my wife either wants to watch or is recording (though how she finds the time to watch one channel and watch what she records over 3 channels on each of our 2 cable boxes is beyond me!!)
I consider myself lucky if I manage to hijack one of the tv's to watch rugby or F1 live these days ... even the cats seem to have viewing priority over me, although for some reason I am allowed to pay the bill!!
Then the first Department of Temporal Investigations novel depict him as the leader of a 28th Century Augments organization.
Nobody stopped the Suliban Cabal, yes some of their plans were foiled but that's pretty much it. The last interaction known with the Suliban Cabal was when Silik stowed away on the Enterprise to steal the plans for the Na'kuhl's temporal conduit. There is absolutely no evidence to suggest the organization ceased to exist or was disbanded.
In that case it might get a little confusing so let me try explain as vaguely as I can so as not to spoil anything.
Enterprise's first three seasons featured Daniels and the Temporal Cold war. Future Proof ties this game into several episodes of Enterprise that featured this war, as well as one, perhaps two episodes of The Next Generation, one of which, if I'm right, also ties to Enterprise. Basically they've done it in a very clever way because your character is inadvertently the cause of the Temporal Cold War which starts in the 25th Century timeline, features heavily in Enterprise's 22nd Century, and ends in an epic battle in the 27th Century as was seen on Enterprise and which you will get to participate in.
I'd say these episodes have been the best written episodes since STO was launched. The way they've knitted two TV shows together with the game has been great. I strong recommend completing them because the latest/last one ties this game into a linchpin episode of Enterprise's story. I also recommend watching Enterprise so the story makes more sense. My only negative view is, as I said in another thread, the fact they didn't tie Agents of Yesterday into this story directly, rather than dressing it up as a new faction which it clearly isn't. It was a missed opportunity.
Are you seriously trying to argue in linear time with a story arc that involves time travel?
Yeah, Daniels told Archer the Temporal Cold War was ending after Archer defeated Vosk. However, for the player the TCW did NOT end with the defeat of Vosk, in fact it was only the beginning.
In a Time War, anything can happen.
Yet here we are involved in a time war so I have no idea whats going on now
I to have also read somewhere that, the future guy from enterprise was suppose to be Archer from the future who wants to kill is young self or something along those lines I think or could be wrong on that in Season 5 of Enterprise if it wasn't cancelled
Time travel, from Daniel's perspective ... that last scene could have been after all the players stuff.
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I never said that the Suliban can time travel. But they were a faction in the TCW and an episode that takes place in Archer's time where we encounter them would be within reasonable expectations. We are time travelling after all. Have you actually played the episodes? Or are you just assuming that because I mention a species or a faction that they must operate on their own?
As for the Na'kuhl: yes, their leader was removed from power so to say. But he's not the only Na'kuhl and even after he was removed, the Na'kuhl kept fighting us. Again, have you actually played the episodes?
The fight against the Sphere builders is an ongoing one because they are active in countless dimensions (hence why we can repeat the queued mission much the same like how T'ket keeps fighting us in the queued missions).
Once again: have you played the episodes?
If you did, you'd know that the so-called dishonesty that you accuse me of is just assumptions from your side and you actually show a remarkable lack of knowing the episodes that are relevant here.
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l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
Maybe this was already asked, but I thought it was Cal Dano who was found dead in Enterprise. Daniels was a Temporal Agent. I'm gonna have to go binge watch Enterprise again.
A: A cutscene that is a literal repeatance of an actual TV episode is not what I consider a mission with the Suliban. We just watched there, there was no actual involvement of them or any kind of interaction. It's meaningless.
B: Again just assumptions. The Na'kuhl are not just one or two persons, and the death of those two individuals doesn't mean that 'the Na'kuhl' are no longer involved in things.
C2: There's no point in discussing in-game events if you're going to say that 'it's just a game, so nothing has to be logical or explained otherwise'. But if you want to evade the whole issue by using this cheap excuse, then I'm fine with that. Though I can't help but wonder what the point of this entire discussion would be then.
C1, 3 and 4: Dimensions, alternate universes, subspace planes: forgive me the lack of accuracy, but such technical details are just that: details and the point was that the Sphere builders are not defeated. Even if the Spheres in this universe were entirely destroyed, their allies still possess the ability to time travel and bring it all back. Which was already pointed out by someone else: keep in mind that we're not dealing with something lineair here.
Further, the only thing stated in Enterprise is that the Federation and its allies won the battle and drove the Sphere builders back into their own realm. Beyond that, nothing was said about the Sphere builders or whether they were entirely defeated so again, assuming that they're defeated and unable to launch a new assault because we managed to thwart their plans when they invaded our dimension is just that: an assumption, not supported by any canon.
It's the same thing when people say that we defeated the Collective. We did no such thing, we managed to push back an invasion force. We don't know anything about what remaining forces they have because we've only encountered an expedition force.
Didn't Cpt. Janeway do a bit of damage to the Collective "Core" just before leaving the Delta Quadrant?