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Feeling a little disappointing in this expansion.

I've played an agents of Yesterday character to level 20 and my mind is far from blow and because of that i'm feeling a little disappointed. I feel like cryptic just blew a huge opportunity.
To start with they screwed up the story. Instead of having an exciting jumping in and out of different timelines playing the exciting life of a temporal operative, your pretty much like yup I'm a LT of the T.O.S. era stuck in the 25th century with absolutely no ambition... Then you play through the same old boring story line which wasn't even re scripted for cool dialogue or effects or even... well... time-travel or anything to really set it apart from the other missions. I expected to be jumping between galaxies and seeing cool new stuff, not a replay of character who is the same as the last ten I've played. I really feel cryptic missed the mark and new to go back to the drawing board and fix their expansion.
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  • sirmaydaysirmayday Member Posts: 535 Arc User
    I'll admit to feeling the same (I'm booting up Civ 5 as I write this, rather than being logged in to my TOS toon), but I think it's because there's a disconnect between the new 'faction' (more like a new Fed tutorial, unless things really get interesting later) and new end-story content (that I'm waiting to do until I get the Temporal Agent pack). Folks who played the end-game stuff seem much less disappointed.
  • philchapphilchap Member Posts: 269 Arc User
    edited July 2016
    well ill pplay my two i have now but i hope we get atleat get a mission to explain garrett what happens to us. but i am disappointed too
  • warr182warr182 Member Posts: 49 Arc User
    Was planning on buying 13000zen temporal pack to upgrade my Wells and Mobius with the new temporal Sci ship Eternal and temporal raider Ouroboros ,sounds very bad as? ,To good to pass up ,,,That was untell i learned my temporal consoles wont go on the new ships ....What the ?? Why ..They are temporal ships how am i going to upgrade my well and mobius to the new Sci temporal and temporal raider ,If i cant carry over my wells and mobius consoles ??Also no bouns from 3 piece lobie chroniton set for the new tem ships . Why would you guys do that ???? It's like you slapped us right in the face for buying and suffering the temporal lock boxes to get the wells and mobius ,,,So you guys going to Fix this ???? I will be very mad if this tactic was to make us throw away our old lock box ships ....l
  • leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 5,514 Arc User
    warr182 wrote: »
    Was planning on buying 13000zen temporal pack to upgrade my Wells and Mobius with the new temporal Sci ship Eternal and temporal raider Ouroboros ,sounds very bad as? ,To good to pass up ,,,That was untell i learned my temporal consoles wont go on the new ships ....What the ?? Why ..They are temporal ships how am i going to upgrade my well and mobius to the new Sci temporal and temporal raider ,If i cant carry over my wells and mobius consoles ??Also no bouns from 3 piece lobie chroniton set for the new tem ships . Why would you guys do that ???? It's like you slapped us right in the face for buying and suffering the temporal lock boxes to get the wells and mobius ,,,So you guys going to Fix this ???? I will be very mad if this tactic was to make us throw away our old lock box ships ....l

    I'll tell you why you can't and why they don't need to 'fix' it. The Mobius, Wells and Paradox are MIRROR ships from Lockboxes and Lobi. The new Temporal Ships are our own and in the C-Store. I have all of them, and believe me, I'm totally fine with it. It's not a slap in the face at all and NOTHING IS BROKEN TO FIX!
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  • bobbydazlersbobbydazlers Member Posts: 4,534 Arc User
    edited July 2016
    so far I have only played the first two episodes but I cant say I am overwhelmed by the expansion so far, I don't know if we get more interaction with the enterprise crew but so far the voiceovers from Scotty, Chekov and the others are hardly worth having, apart from Spock who had a fair amount of voice over added the rest have been little more then "I am ........" and sound like they were sampled from some sound bites from a ToS tv episode, as for the first two episodes those being the tutorial and the Gorn mission I cant say I am anyway surprised by the story's so far, it not what I would call ground-breaking and just typical o.k. sto stuff and nothing to get particularly excited about.
    I am hoping to see more interesting stuff as I play the remainder of the story arc but I cant say I'm expecting anything different from this expansion.
    I would not say I was particularly disappointed, just not that excited over this.

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  • warpnugget#0537 warpnugget Member Posts: 96 Arc User
    what expansion? :*
  • farmallmfarmallm Member Posts: 4,630 Arc User
    edited July 2016
    I enjoyed the AOY start up, but I think they missed a good game experience. I rather stayed in TOS and do more save the time line in the TOS era. And hit in the future some as well. And finally end up helping stop these Time Villains at the end. To me this should have been a whole new leveling experience.
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  • snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
    what expansion? :*

    Agents of Yesterday
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  • evilmark444evilmark444 Member Posts: 6,951 Arc User
    I'm disappointed as well, but I'm still going to level my TOS toon to 60 and experience the TOS stuff with him first, but I'll do it next week with the bonus xp.

    Today I'm probably just going to finish my replay of Resident Evil 3, and then decide if I want to go through code Veronica. Did 0-2 last week, C:V is the last classic style RE but also the only one I never finished.
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  • lordsteve1lordsteve1 Member Posts: 3,492 Arc User
    I just don't have the energy to level a new toon through all the hundred odd missions and reputations again. I know the rewards are pretty decent but it's just repeating the same old stuff again, not what i call a new game experience.

    From any game expansion I like to be able to take my existing characters and improve them further with new adventures, not go back and start over. I invested a lot of time and effort into those toons, they should be where the attention is aimed.

    But a lot of the content feels a bit meh. The voiceovers are a bit rough sounding, the ships seem quite limited in customisation, and the pve missions feel a bit like a rush job.
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  • jaguarskxjaguarskx Member Posts: 5,945 Arc User
    lordsteve1 wrote: »
    I just don't have the energy to level a new toon through all the hundred odd missions and reputations again. I know the rewards are pretty decent but it's just repeating the same old stuff again, not what i call a new game experience.

    Yeah, but the main goal is to get new people into the game similar to the Delta Recruit event last year. I still have not completed the DR event. The biggest roadblock for me is the Cardassian Struggle story arc. Specifically the missions "Of Bajor", "Operation Gamma", and "Boldly They Rode". For whatever reason, those missions simply seems to be a chore to do especially "Of Bajor" I my DR has finally started doing over the July 4th weekend. Still in the middle of doing the mission though...


    For the next expansion (probably within 2 years), I just want missions in the current timeline. I am kinda getting both bored and irritated with missions / events revolving around time travel... probably the reason why lost interest in watching Enterprise. Just give players some good story missions and introduce the Tier 7 starships.

    Everyone knows Tier 7 ships are coming once Cryptic is done turning out Tier 6 ships. Just don't TRIBBLE us over by introducing them shortly after the final T6 starship is made available in the C-Store. Wait at least 6 months (preferably 12 months) before introducing T7 ships after the last T6 ship(s) hits the C-Store. That way people will not feel like they got short changed if they just waited a little bit longer. Plus, it builds up anticipation for the new ships.
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  • snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
    nixboox wrote: »
    At least CIV V is turn-based mindless and therapeutic instead of just mind numbing.

    That's disappointing. They could have done so much more with the CIV IP. But I guess they took the easy way out? Devs across the board are nothing if not lazy and predictable.
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  • evilmark444evilmark444 Member Posts: 6,951 Arc User
    nixboox wrote: »
    sirmayday wrote: »
    I'll admit to feeling the same (I'm booting up Civ 5 as I write this, rather than being logged in to my TOS toon), but I think it's because there's a disconnect between the new 'faction' (more like a new Fed tutorial, unless things really get interesting later) and new end-story content (that I'm waiting to do until I get the Temporal Agent pack). Folks who played the end-game stuff seem much less disappointed.

    I did exactly the same thing! At least CIV V is turn-based mindless and therapeutic instead of just mind numbing. I'm still leveling a Delta Recruit and a Romulan character. I played AOY on Tribble. I don't have the energy to rush through all those missions again just to...what? Be finished?

    I'm finding it more therapeutic to play a game where I frequently open a door only to then hear: "ROOOAAAR ... sssS.T.A.R.Ssss ..."

    Although Nemesis is starting to show his age since I've played Alien: Isolation. He gives up far too easily when compared to the Xenomorph, who just will not leave you alone no matter what you do.
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  • tessaravejgantessaravejgan Member Posts: 276
    The new faction thing was a lie since its just an alternate start for feds. Can't say I was all that impressed with the tos missions but the other ones are ok. I am however not looking forward to grinding my TA. The rewards are too good to let go but still its a pain going through same old missions and then maxing out the doff and admiralty systems. The r&d is going to be the hardest, just recently I completed all r&d schools on the first char I created and its taken me well over a year. *sigh*
  • storulesstorules Member Posts: 3,286 Arc User
    What did you guys expect from PWE?:

    LOR....introduction of a half a$$ faction
    AOY....introduction of a 1/3 of a half a$$ faction fish-2.gif​​
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  • anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    Wait? Isn't this just a new season?
    Don't look silly... Don't call it the "Z-Store/Zen Store"...
    Let me put the rumors to rest: it's definitely still the C-Store (Cryptic Store) It just takes ZEN.
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  • evilmark444evilmark444 Member Posts: 6,951 Arc User
    anazonda wrote: »
    Wait? Isn't this just a new season?

    Was marketed as an expansion, but a new season is a much more accurate description.
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  • captainchaos66captainchaos66 Member Posts: 409 Arc User
    Im hoping they add in more missions from the 23rd Century. The 23c missions they did add are really good, imo. They tied in to TOS universe quite nicely, and the homages to stories started in TOS are great. The maps are wonderful, the AoY UI has some great details to it, and even the sound effects are well placed. I too am a little disappointed in the LACK of TOS content. I have yet to play the endgame missions, but am enjoying running through the normal missions again,,, for the 125th time,, doing the,,,, same,, missions,,,, well,, enjoying is too strong a word.
    Here's hoping more missions are coming. It has been hinted that more 23c missions will be added, and if the initial phase of the expansion is a success, it is likely more missions will be added.
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  • warpnugget#0537 warpnugget Member Posts: 96 Arc User
    what expansion? :*

    Agents of Yesterday

    sarcasm just went over your head lol...
  • dlmc85dlmc85 Member Posts: 145 Arc User
    The problem with this expansion is that it doesn't add anything to existing characters. The work is big and of high quality but not accessible and that's the downfall of this expansion.
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  • darkenviousdarkenvious Member Posts: 66 Arc User
    edited July 2016
    I created an AoY character and then went through the 5 missions and I must admit I was enjoying it but then get ported to the future and told to talk to Admiral Quinn and I just completely stopped, I thought there would be way more missions to play but oh no have to go and play through all of the same missions over and over again. I must tell you I have no desire to play through all of the episodes again, AoY is just another intro for the federation and I am completely disappointed in this and sadly in my opinion is a waste of time and I won't be playing the AoY character any time soon. Also I had thought of something, it would have been much better to stay in the 23rd century instead of going to the 25th century because I honestly prefer the tos setting anyways, and hopefully more 23rd century missions will be added and that we can go back to 23rd century
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  • bobbydazlersbobbydazlers Member Posts: 4,534 Arc User
    edited July 2016
    lordsteve1 wrote: »
    I just don't have the energy to level a new toon through all the hundred odd missions and reputations again. I know the rewards are pretty decent but it's just repeating the same old stuff again, not what i call a new game experience.

    From any game expansion I like to be able to take my existing characters and improve them further with new adventures, not go back and start over. I invested a lot of time and effort into those toons, they should be where the attention is aimed.

    But a lot of the content feels a bit meh. The voiceovers are a bit rough sounding, the ships seem quite limited in customisation, and the pve missions feel a bit like a rush job.

    I feel the same way, that's why I will level my ToS character up to the time I get the Temporal Transponder which I believe you get at lv10 and then I will only play him when I feel like doing it.
    it may take me a year or two to get the character to lv60 or I might never get there but the way I see it we have a free character slot anyway so its not costing me anything to have him there for whenever I feel like playing him, I just need to play through the new story line within the first 6 weeks while the event is active and I am sure I can just about manage that.
    valoreah wrote: »
    ... Devs across the board are nothing if not lazy and predictable.

    I would not call them lazy. Limited in time, resources and budget is more likely the case.

    perhaps if they had held off releasing the expansion till closer to the actual date of the star trek anniversary say late august or early September they could have made an expansion worthy of the star trek 50th anniversary celebrations with perhaps some more ToS only missions and maybe some more free ToS ships for levelling up with.
    storules wrote: »
    What did you guys expect from PWE?:

    LOR....introduction of a half a$$ faction
    AOY....introduction of a 1/3 of a half a$$ faction fish-2.gif​​

    I would rather had something that was on a par with LoR then the half baked effort we have now even with the inevitable single fed choice to join with, LoR missions just seemed far more substantial to me then all of this does.
    Im hoping they add in more missions from the 23rd Century. The 23c missions they did add are really good, imo. They tied in to TOS universe quite nicely, and the homages to stories started in TOS are great. The maps are wonderful, the AoY UI has some great details to it, and even the sound effects are well placed. I too am a little disappointed in the LACK of TOS content. I have yet to play the endgame missions, but am enjoying running through the normal missions again,,, for the 125th time,, doing the,,,, same,, missions,,,, well,, enjoying is too strong a word.
    Here's hoping more missions are coming. It has been hinted that more 23c missions will be added, and if the initial phase of the expansion is a success, it is likely more missions will be added.

    from what I have heard what you see is all we will get, any further episodes based in the 23rd Century will be tagged onto the end of all the current story lines and playable by all factions so you will need to play through all the other old stuff first before you can do them, there will be nothing else that is only for ToS characters as far as I am aware.
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    When I think about everything we've been through together,

    maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,

     and if that journey takes a little longer,

    so we can do something we all believe in,

     I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.

  • starmanjstarmanj Member Posts: 719 Arc User
    wargamer01 wrote: »
    I've played an agents of Yesterday character to level 20 and my mind is far from blow and because of that i'm feeling a little disappointed. I feel like cryptic just blew a huge opportunity.
    To start with they screwed up the story. Instead of having an exciting jumping in and out of different timelines playing the exciting life of a temporal operative, your pretty much like yup I'm a LT of the T.O.S. era stuck in the 25th century with absolutely no ambition... Then you play through the same old boring story line which wasn't even re scripted for cool dialogue or effects or even... well... time-travel or anything to really set it apart from the other missions. I expected to be jumping between galaxies and seeing cool new stuff, not a replay of character who is the same as the last ten I've played. I really feel cryptic missed the mark and new to go back to the drawing board and fix their expansion.

    I feel the same Please not again doing the same stuf all over on another toon (:
  • berginsbergins Member Posts: 3,453 Arc User
    OP:
    I'm very sorry that you feel disappointing, and I hope you get a greater sense of self worth soon.
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  • warr182warr182 Member Posts: 49 Arc User
    You guys going to fix it so i can put my Wells and Mobius consoles on the new times ships ???? I feel very let down you guys did launch with all time consoles being able to interchangable ,13000 zen is alot for new time ships and throwing away my other old time ships and consoles for them is alot to ask ,,,, I want the upgrade to new teir 6 time without lossing my old consoles and lobie chrno set . It's not to much to expect ,They are all time ships..And fan boy quit takeing trolling if we never tell them whats wrong they wont fix it
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