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garaks31
Member Posts: 2,845 Arc User
Delta Klingons ,KDF and Borg Cooperative creating a alliance 3 homeworld's. have Special ships and items based on delta-quadrant and borg tech. Cooperative Humans ,Roms ,Andorians ... can be created ...
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markhawkman
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I think what would help is to redefine the place of Orions. Obviously they're better than Klingons and should be in charge of the Empire.
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in the mission Time and Tide was mentioned after the Federation that we know ,there will be a larger (something something) Federation and then the galactic allience. maybe the step that i have suggested can lead to that.
we know that the devs want to do a borg expansion. why not hitting the goal with a big red faction revamp/expansion
for the game more players would play the red faction. would lead to more content for the faction.
because that goes against the nearly stated goal of removing all uniqueness form said faction while driving away the unwanted players of said faction.
if I stop posting it doesn't make you right it. just means I don't have enough rum to continue interacting with you.
That way more people create a KDF alt and spend money to buy the T4 Corsair Flight-Deck Cruiser that, I think, unlocks the usage of Orion Slaver hanger pets and its variants.
KDF metrics improve and KDF faction becomes more than just something to be ignored by the developers.
I know a ton of hardcore Klingon players would hate that. I understand and sympathize. But I'm speaking for myself and myself alone here - what could be done to improve my personal experience of the Klingon faction.
I have, over the course of my time in STO, mained characters from all three factions, and I would love to go back and play my KDF character more often. She's awesome! She'll be more awesome when they release a T6 version of her favorite ship (being a character from the launch era, she flew the Vo'quv), but... well, honestly, right now, I'm not sure I'd buy the T6 Vo'quv.
My home is Fedside. The little fleet I run is Fedside. The hundreds of hours I've sunken into that fleet are all Fedside. My social circle is Fedside. And logging in as Molni means not working on or with any of that.
End the faction split, I can add her and other KDF characters to my fleet and talk in Armada chat and it'll be great. Otherwise, she'll keep gathering dust.
My life gets better if the faction split ends. Others might have the opposite experience. But I am saying what, from a purely selfish perspective, I want to see happen.
It's Cryptic's treatment of the KDF (and Romulans for that matter) that really sours my view of the franchise.
My thoughts exactly.
There aren't enough players to justify the costs of adding ships and a full faction specific story. But then you aren't going to get more players for those factions, because you haven't added the content.
And that is how the game was setup from the start. I think you even had to play a FED character up to level 10 before you could even create a KDF character, from what I remember.
You're never going to get more KDF/ROM players without the content to support that and make it worthwhile to those players that strictly want to play those factions. And you're never going to get the complete factions/content like you do with the FED side, until there is a player base to support it.
Beyond that, Star Trek as a franchise is almost completely Starfleet/UFP centric. I think I recall a game here or there that focused on the Klingons, but that was it. So, given that most people's experience with the franchise is through watching the television shows and movies, and that media is almost completely based on Starfleet, it also then makes sense that this platform would follow that.
You have the option to play as the two minor factions (and I do, often), but they will minor at best. The alternative is to wait for PWE to throw a bunch of money at these minor factions and hope the player base follows. But I would say, having waited 6 years for that is proof it probably isn't going to happen.
Run an event called "The Klingon Military Expansion" for a month. During that time all accounts will get a free slot specifically for creating a KDF captain. If the slot remains unused after the event then it gets deleted after the month is over. There will be no new content or spin on existing story mission. This is simply a KDF recruitment event. The KDF captain plays like any other KDF captain until he /she reaches level 50 and has also completed the Breen Invasion story arc at which point the character will be given rewards. Only a KDF captain created with this specific slot can get the rewards. Any other KDF character created during the month long event will not receive any of the rewards.
The premise of the reward could basically be part of the effort to make a stand against the Borg in the Borg Advance story arc. At level 50 KDF captains will be given the following:
- 100 Marks for all the reputations.
- 40,000 raw dilithium
- 1 Omega Upgrade Kit - bound to character
- 1 Tech Upgrade - Universal (Large: 25.6k Tech Points, No Dil requirement) - bound to character
- 1 Tech Upgrade - Universal (Small: 12.8k Tech Points, No Dil requirement) - bound to character
- 2 bonus specialization points
- One class specific T5 starship from the C-Store. The ship you get depends on the class of the Captain.
- - Engineer & Tactical = Mogh Battle Cruiser
- - Science = Kar'Fi Battle Carrier
I would have selected the Bortasqu' War Cruiser for the Engineer, but it only has a turn rate of 5.5. If it had a turn rate of 6.5 similar to the T6 variants, then I would have listed it instead of the Mogh. On top of that it is not a very popular ship to begin with. The Mogh was extremely popular, too popular in my opinion to be offered as a free ship. However, the KDF does not have many ships to choose from. The B'rel BoP is a fine ship for a tactical captain, but I think it might be a bit too specialized for most KDF players. It can serve both tactical and science captains, but I generally would not bother having an engineer captain the B'rel. The Guramba Siege Destroyer is good for a tactical captain, but not really good for an engineer in my opinion.
The reason why there is only one slot given for this event is to prevent players from selecting more than one free T5 C-Store Starship. If this attracts enough player into the KDF faction, then perhaps something similar can be done for the Romulans.
If people want to play it, they will. Why try to force it with phony inticments?
*looks at AoY* worked for the feds.
and not when the lead designer is actively driving away fans of said faction. most people just aren't angry or hateful enough to stick around anyway. if things were somewhat even I'ld agree with you but there not so I don't.
if I stop posting it doesn't make you right it. just means I don't have enough rum to continue interacting with you.
I would quit and take my wallet elsewhere.
Want to play a klingon and fly around in a Negh'Var or a Bird-of-Prey just like in the movies? Roll KDF.
Want to play a romulan and fly around in a D'Deridex or a Scimitar? Roll RR.
It seriously does not need to be any more complicated than that.
An that is why the KDF and Romulan factions are so low pop, as well as under developed ship as well as content wise. There is not enough reason or incentive for players to feel it is worth it to play these lower pop factions, and so also low priority for the devs to actually produce content for these factions. That might be all some need to desire to play a faction, but for others they do need more, and you need those other players to keep the other factions alive or they get neglected.
Fair enough. I play KDF and Romulan characters for the love of the KDF and Romulan factions. I don't even play my Federation characters because I somehow feel like I'm getting "more" out of that faction. It's more of a "I feel like playing my Federation spaceship today" when it comes to my internal decision-making.
Everything else you're talking about just sounds foreign to me. Which isn't to say I don't believe you, but it's just a concept I don't understand or relate to. I think the KDF and Romulan Republic have "enough" to get somebody started on the path to eventually just doing ISA and CCA ad nauseum. I think there's room for improvement, but even with Agents of Yesterday, at the end of the day, people are still going to be using their 31st Century timeships and Kelvin Timeline spaceships to spam ISA and CCA.
All the paths in the factions end at the same destination, so I'm not sure I could ever understand the concept of making some of the other paths a bit more decorated or whatever.
If you watched Star Trek, you might want to
Play a Human and fly around in a Constitution Class Cruiser.
Play a Vulcan and fly around in a Constellation Class Cruiser
Play an Andorian and fly around in a Nova Science Vessel.
Play a Betazoid and fly around in an Intrepid Science Vessel
Play a Trill and fly around in a Sovereign Class Cruiser
Play a Caitan and fly around in a Galaxy Class Cruiser
Play a Tellerite and fly around in an Excelsior CLass Cruiser
Play a Saurian and fly around in an Ambassador Class Cruiser
Play an Alien and fly around in an Akira Class Escort
Play a Ferengi and fly around in a Galaxy-X Dreadnought
Play a Liberated Borg and fly around in a Defiant Class Escort
Play a Benzite and fly around in a Steamrunner Class Escort
Play a Klingon and fly around in a Bird of Prey
Play a Klingon and fly around in a Vor'Cha
Play a Klingon and fly around in a Negh'Var
Play a Klingon and fly around in a Raptor
Play a Romulan and fly around in a Bird of Prey
Play a Reman and fly around in a Warbird
Play a Reman and fly around in a Scimitar
Play a Romulan and fly around in a Mogai
It's obvious which faction has more character concepts even just mixing two elements, only picking canon choices.
*snip* I absolutely support a recruitment drive for KDF and Romulan Republic. This would be a wonderful idea IMO.
I also support adding additional "faction" incentives. Say, a weekly "faction bonus". The faction that had the least players the last week will receive bonus skill points and bonus marks for that week. The Federation would probably never get this, and it would always provide an incentive to play the lesser used factions. (Though I might worry that the math is simple and it always goes to the Romulan Republic. That could be disheartening for Romulan fans?)
False Cause fallacy. Vast majority of players were already there.
And you have this false idea that people want to play KDF just as much as Fed.
There is no reason to balance faction population in this game. Unlike games specifically designed around PvP.
No wonder that the Romulan Republic is vastly more popular than the KDF.
Oh, wait, it's not.