In doing some research a press release from Arc said that the Star Cruisers are supposed to be Fed dreadnaughts such as the Sojourner and the Endeavor. Anyone have experience with these as far as tanking and DPS? Am I mistaken about these being dreadnaughts?
In doing some research a press release from Arc said that the Star Cruisers are supposed to be Fed dreadnaughts such as the Sojourner and the Endeavor. Anyone have experience with these as far as tanking and DPS? Am I mistaken about these being dreadnaughts?
The T6 Flagships are very good ships, they're right up at the top of the line for Feds.
It is odd, they're not listed as 'Dreadnoughts,' but I was playing a mission the other day ("Taris") and at the end, when the Belfast warps in, it's flanked by two 'Odyssey Dreadnought' cruisers.
It's just hilarious how Cryptic just throws terms around arbitrarily, don't get too hung up on getting a 'Dreadnought.' In this game it means absolutely nothing.
In doing some research a press release from Arc said that the Star Cruisers are supposed to be Fed dreadnaughts such as the Sojourner and the Endeavor. Anyone have experience with these as far as tanking and DPS? Am I mistaken about these being dreadnaughts?
It's just hilarious how Cryptic just throws terms around arbitrarily, don't get too hung up on getting a 'Dreadnought.' In this game it means absolutely nothing.
This. ^^^^
Just use this page for determining which ship you want: http://sto.gamepedia.com/Playable_starship
Open the ones you are interested in, in a new tab, so you can easily compare their stats.
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In doing some research a press release from Arc said that the Star Cruisers are supposed to be Fed dreadnaughts such as the Sojourner and the Endeavor. Anyone have experience with these as far as tanking and DPS? Am I mistaken about these being dreadnaughts?
The T6 Flagships are very good ships, they're right up at the top of the line for Feds.
It is odd, they're not listed as 'Dreadnoughts,' but I was playing a mission the other day ("Taris") and at the end, when the Belfast warps in, it's flanked by two 'Odyssey Dreadnought' cruisers.
It's just hilarious how Cryptic just throws terms around arbitrarily, don't get too hung up on getting a 'Dreadnought.' In this game it means absolutely nothing.
Yeah, and Dreadnoughts are supposed to come with a hangar, like the Gal-X and Breen Rezreth Dreadnought..
Technically, there are three kinds of Dreadnoughts.
* Dreadnought Cruisers, which have a 4/4 or 5/3 weapon config, are Engineering based (they have a commander Eng slot, and focus on Eng console slots) and have a single hangar bay.
* Dreadnought Carriers, which are 4/3, Tactical based, and have two hangar bays.
* Science Dreadnoughts, which are 4/3, Science based, and have a single hangar.
The flagships are weird because they pre-date this standard being established; they actually break a lot of rules that ships follow now. They technically still fit the pattern, since they have a detachable ship in place of a hangar, you just need a console equipped to make it happen.
As far as the Feds go, they have the Galaxy X, the Yamato (T6 Galaxy X), and now the Vengeance. You can count the 6 flagship versions as well if you want, and they are pretty nice ships in any case.
Way they class a Dread. Its a cruiser type that can carry canons, with a single hanger bay for fighters of your choice, and uses 2 of the Command buffs, unless its the Romulan ship.. Now it depends on weapon arrangement and other factors, but mostly use the main characteristic.
As of now the only Fed is the Galaxy X. Unless you get a Lobi store one.
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Thanks guys. I really like the Arbiter but I'm an Engineer and don't fly Escorts that much. It does look like a great tanky escort. My main criteria was an Intel slot and the Dreadnaughts all have command slots.
I also looked at the Guardian. How does it compare with the Arbiter as far as toughness and DPS?
In doing some research a press release from Arc said that the Star Cruisers are supposed to be Fed dreadnaughts such as the Sojourner and the Endeavor. Anyone have experience with these as far as tanking and DPS? Am I mistaken about these being dreadnaughts?
I personally would stay away from them. I've got the T6 Fed Battlecruiser (Arbiter/Avenger I believe), and it is quite a formidable ship. 5 fore, 3 aft, good shields and maneuverability, and it has a good console/boff layout. If you're dead set on spending ingame currency however, I would wait until next week and go after the Vengeance from the lockbox or one of the temporal ships. The temporal ships have decent stats for T6, and the Vengeance is rumored to be a Scimitar killer. Vengeance is proposed to have a similar weapons setup to the T6 Battlecruiser and will no doubt have a strong boff layout. If it is anything like its movie counterpart, NPCs will tremble before you.
I still recommend the Eclipse. It isn't a dreadnought, but It's hybrid commander/intel seat allows you to make some great builds that can both tank and DPS.
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The Vengence sounds very promising. My concern about a lockbox ship is how much cash I will have to shell out before one drops. I have had a couple of ships drop over the years but it's rare in my experience. Is it being a lockbox ship of financial concern to you?
The Vengence sounds very promising. My concern about a lockbox ship is how much cash I will have to shell out before one drops. I have had a couple of ships drop over the years but it's rare in my experience. Is it being a lockbox ship of financial concern to you?
lobi not lock box little different, it'll cost alot but you can cut that down by getting the lobi via getting lockbox stuff for all your characters effectively making your money do more selling what you don't need to buy keys with ec and repeat.
or you just grind up the ec and buy it off the exchange. in any case it cost you. personally I'm not going for it but I have alot to get for all my character.
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Thanks guys. Great info. So the Vengence will be a Lobi ship. Cool. I'm actually saving up for the Narcene carrier. I'm suck in the stone age in some ways. I looked again and the Guardian consoles are amazing going way beyond gimmick. The console plus EP Weapons III boosted 14k DPS weapons output to 26k through the console stacking. As far as the Arbiter vs. the Guardian, I'll think I'll pick up both and let God sort them out.
I still recommend the Eclipse. It isn't a dreadnought, but It's hybrid commander/intel seat allows you to make some great builds that can both tank and DPS.
It is a good ship, as is the Arbiter.
Also, the Arbiter is very similar to the Vengeance, just without the hangar.
Thanks guys. I really like the Arbiter but I'm an Engineer and don't fly Escorts that much.
Just a quick thing here..
The Arbiter is not an escort, it's a Battlecruiser.
While it's small for a cruiser, it's considerably larger and far more durable then an Escort. It's not quite as maneuverable as an Escort, but very nimble for a Cruiser.
If you're looking to deal damage, don't discount a ships maneuverability. As you get more into learning how to quickly wipe out large groups, you'll find that a more maneuverable ship will really help you up your damage. To this day on my Romulan, I can deal far more damage in my Morrigu (Romulan version of the Arbiter) then I can in my 'All Mighty' Scimitar.
The Arbiter has no downside.. none. It's good/great at absolutely everything. It's the king of all Fed ships.
I still recommend the Eclipse. It isn't a dreadnought, but It's hybrid commander/intel seat allows you to make some great builds that can both tank and DPS.
It is a good ship, as is the Arbiter.
Also, the Arbiter is very similar to the Vengeance, just without the hangar.
I am betting by the size (it's larger than the KT Connie, and the KT Connie is bigger than the Galaxy) that it's going to have a turn rate of around 6 and inertia to match. We'll find out Monday/Tuesday, but it's almost certainly not going to fly anything like an Arbie.
The Vengence sounds very promising. My concern about a lockbox ship is how much cash I will have to shell out before one drops. I have had a couple of ships drop over the years but it's rare in my experience. Is it being a lockbox ship of financial concern to you?
lobi not lock box little different, it'll cost alot but you can cut that down by getting the lobi via getting lockbox stuff for all your characters effectively making your money do more selling what you don't need to buy keys with ec and repeat.
or you just grind up the ec and buy it off the exchange. in any case it cost you. personally I'm not going for it but I have alot to get for all my character.
I'm just going to be blunt here: that's HORRIBLE advice. You lose money hand over fist opening boxes vs just selling key unless you get super lucky and get a grand prize. Keys go for around 5.5m EC right now, and the average thing coming out of a lockbox will likely sell for 1m or less. If you want the stuff from the boxes, by all means, open them, but opening them strictly as a means to getting the 900 lobi you need to get the ship?
NO. JUST NO.
That's going to take 200 or so boxes (or $190 USD if you bought the keys on sale). That's enough to buy the ship at 750m (which it won't be) and still have 350m left for equipping it with everything else if you really feel like spending that much.
Let the people who have already farmed the lobi buy the ship for you. It's cheaper, less frustrating, and in the end, better for everyone (except maybe Cryptic and PWE).
I still recommend the Eclipse. It isn't a dreadnought, but It's hybrid commander/intel seat allows you to make some great builds that can both tank and DPS.
It is a good ship, as is the Arbiter.
Also, the Arbiter is very similar to the Vengeance, just without the hangar.
I am betting by the size (it's larger than the KT Connie, and the KT Connie is bigger than the Galaxy) that it's going to have a turn rate of around 6 and inertia to match. We'll find out Monday/Tuesday, but it's almost certainly not going to fly anything like an Arbie.
The Vengence sounds very promising. My concern about a lockbox ship is how much cash I will have to shell out before one drops. I have had a couple of ships drop over the years but it's rare in my experience. Is it being a lockbox ship of financial concern to you?
lobi not lock box little different, it'll cost alot but you can cut that down by getting the lobi via getting lockbox stuff for all your characters effectively making your money do more selling what you don't need to buy keys with ec and repeat.
or you just grind up the ec and buy it off the exchange. in any case it cost you. personally I'm not going for it but I have alot to get for all my character.
I'm just going to be blunt here: that's HORRIBLE advice. You lose money hand over fist opening boxes vs just selling key unless you get super lucky and get a grand prize. Keys go for around 5.5m EC right now, and the average thing coming out of a lockbox will likely sell for 1m or less. If you want the stuff from the boxes, by all means, open them, but opening them strictly as a means to getting the 900 lobi you need to get the ship?
NO. JUST NO.
That's going to take 200 or so boxes (or $190 USD if you bought the keys on sale). That's enough to buy the ship at 750m (which it won't be) and still have 350m left for equipping it with everything else if you really feel like spending that much.
Let the people who have already farmed the lobi buy the ship for you. It's cheaper, less frustrating, and in the end, better for everyone (except maybe Cryptic and PWE).
can't know how much it'll be tell it comes out. and I did suggest getting lockbox stuff for all their characters if using keys. and did suggest getting ec to buy it though the exchange as a alternative... and wait keys have gotten that low. they dropped another mil, wow I really should have waited to spend my ec reserves on keys.
if I stop posting it doesn't make you right it. just means I don't have enough rum to continue interacting with you.
I still recommend the Eclipse. It isn't a dreadnought, but It's hybrid commander/intel seat allows you to make some great builds that can both tank and DPS.
It is a good ship, as is the Arbiter.
Also, the Arbiter is very similar to the Vengeance, just without the hangar.
I am betting by the size (it's larger than the KT Connie, and the KT Connie is bigger than the Galaxy) that it's going to have a turn rate of around 6 and inertia to match. We'll find out Monday/Tuesday, but it's almost certainly not going to fly anything like an Arbie.
The Vengence sounds very promising. My concern about a lockbox ship is how much cash I will have to shell out before one drops. I have had a couple of ships drop over the years but it's rare in my experience. Is it being a lockbox ship of financial concern to you?
lobi not lock box little different, it'll cost alot but you can cut that down by getting the lobi via getting lockbox stuff for all your characters effectively making your money do more selling what you don't need to buy keys with ec and repeat.
or you just grind up the ec and buy it off the exchange. in any case it cost you. personally I'm not going for it but I have alot to get for all my character.
I'm just going to be blunt here: that's HORRIBLE advice. You lose money hand over fist opening boxes vs just selling key unless you get super lucky and get a grand prize. Keys go for around 5.5m EC right now, and the average thing coming out of a lockbox will likely sell for 1m or less. If you want the stuff from the boxes, by all means, open them, but opening them strictly as a means to getting the 900 lobi you need to get the ship?
NO. JUST NO.
That's going to take 200 or so boxes (or $190 USD if you bought the keys on sale). That's enough to buy the ship at 750m (which it won't be) and still have 350m left for equipping it with everything else if you really feel like spending that much.
Let the people who have already farmed the lobi buy the ship for you. It's cheaper, less frustrating, and in the end, better for everyone (except maybe Cryptic and PWE).
can't know how much it'll be tell it comes out. and I did suggest getting lockbox stuff for all their characters if using keys. and did suggest getting ec to buy it though the exchange as a alternative... and wait keys have gotten that low. they dropped another mil, wow I really should have waited to spend my ec reserves on keys.
You really think that this ship is going to cost a different amount than every other T6 ship in the store, ever? I suppose it's possible, just like it's possible that the next ships will be Hello Kitty themed. Even if they sold it for the old T5 price, or you waited for them to go on sale, it's still bad advice. If you happen to have enough lobi to get a ship because you opened boxes to get other things, then go ahead and get a ship. That's the only scenario where it's a sane thing to do - period.
The thing to remember about selling keys is that you don't have to do it all at one time. Price dropped? Stop selling them, wait for it to go up again. It's not like they are going to run out of lobi ships, or the price is going to go up. Keys haven't dropped below 4m in a year or so, and they shoot up to close to or over 6m every time a new box comes out. If you miss the window for the high price, just wait 3 months for the next box and ride the wave again.
I still recommend the Eclipse. It isn't a dreadnought, but It's hybrid commander/intel seat allows you to make some great builds that can both tank and DPS.
It is a good ship, as is the Arbiter.
Also, the Arbiter is very similar to the Vengeance, just without the hangar.
I am betting by the size (it's larger than the KT Connie, and the KT Connie is bigger than the Galaxy) that it's going to have a turn rate of around 6 and inertia to match. We'll find out Monday/Tuesday, but it's almost certainly not going to fly anything like an Arbie.
The Vengence sounds very promising. My concern about a lockbox ship is how much cash I will have to shell out before one drops. I have had a couple of ships drop over the years but it's rare in my experience. Is it being a lockbox ship of financial concern to you?
lobi not lock box little different, it'll cost alot but you can cut that down by getting the lobi via getting lockbox stuff for all your characters effectively making your money do more selling what you don't need to buy keys with ec and repeat.
or you just grind up the ec and buy it off the exchange. in any case it cost you. personally I'm not going for it but I have alot to get for all my character.
I'm just going to be blunt here: that's HORRIBLE advice. You lose money hand over fist opening boxes vs just selling key unless you get super lucky and get a grand prize. Keys go for around 5.5m EC right now, and the average thing coming out of a lockbox will likely sell for 1m or less. If you want the stuff from the boxes, by all means, open them, but opening them strictly as a means to getting the 900 lobi you need to get the ship?
NO. JUST NO.
That's going to take 200 or so boxes (or $190 USD if you bought the keys on sale). That's enough to buy the ship at 750m (which it won't be) and still have 350m left for equipping it with everything else if you really feel like spending that much.
Let the people who have already farmed the lobi buy the ship for you. It's cheaper, less frustrating, and in the end, better for everyone (except maybe Cryptic and PWE).
can't know how much it'll be tell it comes out. and I did suggest getting lockbox stuff for all their characters if using keys. and did suggest getting ec to buy it though the exchange as a alternative... and wait keys have gotten that low. they dropped another mil, wow I really should have waited to spend my ec reserves on keys.
You really think that this ship is going to cost a different amount than every other T6 ship in the store, ever? I suppose it's possible, just like it's possible that the next ships will be Hello Kitty themed. Even if they sold it for the old T5 price, or you waited for them to go on sale, it's still bad advice. If you happen to have enough lobi to get a ship because you opened boxes to get other things, then go ahead and get a ship. That's the only scenario where it's a sane thing to do - period.
The thing to remember about selling keys is that you don't have to do it all at one time. Price dropped? Stop selling them, wait for it to go up again. It's not like they are going to run out of lobi ships, or the price is going to go up. Keys haven't dropped below 4m in a year or so, and they shoot up to close to or over 6m every time a new box comes out. If you miss the window for the high price, just wait 3 months for the next box and ride the wave again.
I meant the ec cost. we know it's gonna be 900 lobi what we don't know is how much the player base is going to think it's worth though the fact that key are dropping in ec price rapidly say this box will be in demand and anything from it goona cost an arm and a leg cause no one wants to "risk" opening a lockbox. cause everyone wants something from this pack and is selling keys to get the ec for it. cause you know making sure you pay the extreme end price something because you are unwilling to chance a faster way is cheaper. not even covering "yeah I spent nearly 200$ and got the ship... and nothing else." too bad if you open a few box you can get all kinds of goodies many of which are worth way more then keys. hell what does a kazon raider go for these days 200-300 mil and thats a terrible ship no body wants and most uniform pack go for what 80 mil not covering doffs, traits, consoles and other fun things. if my advice is bad yours is laughable.
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The problem with the advice to never open boxes is that if everybody would do that, prices would be outrageous or there would be no lockbox goodies available.
Thanks guys. I really like the Arbiter but I'm an Engineer and don't fly Escorts that much.
Just a quick thing here..
The Arbiter is not an escort, it's a Battlecruiser.
While it's small for a cruiser, it's considerably larger and far more durable then an Escort. It's not quite as maneuverable as an Escort, but very nimble for a Cruiser.
If you're looking to deal damage, don't discount a ships maneuverability. As you get more into learning how to quickly wipe out large groups, you'll find that a more maneuverable ship will really help you up your damage. To this day on my Romulan, I can deal far more damage in my Morrigu (Romulan version of the Arbiter) then I can in my 'All Mighty' Scimitar.
The Arbiter has no downside.. none. It's good/great at absolutely everything. It's the king of all Fed ships.
Yep, my fleet t6 Excelsior can actually manage to do more damage than my t6 Galaxy Dreadnaught.
The problem with the advice to never open boxes is that if everybody would do that, prices would be outrageous or there would be no lockbox goodies available.
Sure, but most don't get this advice, and so plenty boxes will be opened anyway.
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The problem with the advice to never open boxes is that if everybody would do that, prices would be outrageous or there would be no lockbox goodies available.
There are plenty of reasons to open boxes. Traits, weapons, consoles, even ships - all of those are fine, if that's what you want from them and you understand you are playing some slim odds. It's really only opening them specifically to get lobi that's insanely stupid.
At that point, you are no longer even taking a chance to see if you win, you are just plain forking over hundreds of dollars for a ship that is only ever so slightly better than one you can spend $30 on.
Just my 0.02 but my Fleet Yamato does significant damage all the while being able to take heavy damage and survive.
Love it and do so much better over the Fleet Arbiter.
While I'm sure no one doubts that the Yamato can tank, it tanks better than you need to in the current game. The problem with the Yamato is that it has 7 engineering BOff ability slots, which is 4 more than you usually need at end-game. This could be mitigated if you use the lieutenant commander hybrid slot for command BOff abilities, but these are so useless, that you wouldn't really get any good DPS out of them.
The arbiter has just enough tanking potential for end-game, while being able to dish out far more damage than the Yamato can.
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Exactly, the Arbiter doesn't give up firepower in order to get defense that's simply not needed.
No one is saying the Yamato isn't a good ship.. it is. It's a perfectly viable ship and if it's the ship that someone wants, then that's what they should fly.
If you're looking for the 'best' or most 'optimal' ship setup however, then the Yamato can't touch the Arbiter. The Arbiter can take just as much as they Yamato while dealing superior damage.
Not everyone is concerned with being 'optimal' or having 'the best' setup, and that's totally cool. Some people just like the Yamato better.. rather it's the looks, or they like a bigger, heavier ship.. again, that's perfectly fine.
They're both good ships, one is just a bit better. Neither one of them suck.
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Not
BUy
Anything right now.
Whole new set of temporal ships coming it at 7th of july.
New lobi ship coming. New lockbox ships.
Do. Not.
Buy.
If you want to buy, buy the arbiter battlecruiser, because it rofl stomps The Yamato and the Flagships.
The T6 Flagships are very good ships, they're right up at the top of the line for Feds.
It is odd, they're not listed as 'Dreadnoughts,' but I was playing a mission the other day ("Taris") and at the end, when the Belfast warps in, it's flanked by two 'Odyssey Dreadnought' cruisers.
It's just hilarious how Cryptic just throws terms around arbitrarily, don't get too hung up on getting a 'Dreadnought.' In this game it means absolutely nothing.
This. ^^^^
Just use this page for determining which ship you want:
http://sto.gamepedia.com/Playable_starship
Open the ones you are interested in, in a new tab, so you can easily compare their stats.
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Yeah, and Dreadnoughts are supposed to come with a hangar, like the Gal-X and Breen Rezreth Dreadnought..
* Dreadnought Cruisers, which have a 4/4 or 5/3 weapon config, are Engineering based (they have a commander Eng slot, and focus on Eng console slots) and have a single hangar bay.
* Dreadnought Carriers, which are 4/3, Tactical based, and have two hangar bays.
* Science Dreadnoughts, which are 4/3, Science based, and have a single hangar.
The flagships are weird because they pre-date this standard being established; they actually break a lot of rules that ships follow now. They technically still fit the pattern, since they have a detachable ship in place of a hangar, you just need a console equipped to make it happen.
As far as the Feds go, they have the Galaxy X, the Yamato (T6 Galaxy X), and now the Vengeance. You can count the 6 flagship versions as well if you want, and they are pretty nice ships in any case.
As of now the only Fed is the Galaxy X. Unless you get a Lobi store one.
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I also looked at the Guardian. How does it compare with the Arbiter as far as toughness and DPS?
depends on the ship. but the spec appears to be.
you really want to look into the vengeance. may be what your looking for.
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I personally would stay away from them. I've got the T6 Fed Battlecruiser (Arbiter/Avenger I believe), and it is quite a formidable ship. 5 fore, 3 aft, good shields and maneuverability, and it has a good console/boff layout. If you're dead set on spending ingame currency however, I would wait until next week and go after the Vengeance from the lockbox or one of the temporal ships. The temporal ships have decent stats for T6, and the Vengeance is rumored to be a Scimitar killer. Vengeance is proposed to have a similar weapons setup to the T6 Battlecruiser and will no doubt have a strong boff layout. If it is anything like its movie counterpart, NPCs will tremble before you.
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lobi not lock box little different, it'll cost alot but you can cut that down by getting the lobi via getting lockbox stuff for all your characters effectively making your money do more selling what you don't need to buy keys with ec and repeat.
or you just grind up the ec and buy it off the exchange. in any case it cost you. personally I'm not going for it but I have alot to get for all my character.
if I stop posting it doesn't make you right it. just means I don't have enough rum to continue interacting with you.
It is a good ship, as is the Arbiter.
Also, the Arbiter is very similar to the Vengeance, just without the hangar.
Just a quick thing here..
The Arbiter is not an escort, it's a Battlecruiser.
While it's small for a cruiser, it's considerably larger and far more durable then an Escort. It's not quite as maneuverable as an Escort, but very nimble for a Cruiser.
If you're looking to deal damage, don't discount a ships maneuverability. As you get more into learning how to quickly wipe out large groups, you'll find that a more maneuverable ship will really help you up your damage. To this day on my Romulan, I can deal far more damage in my Morrigu (Romulan version of the Arbiter) then I can in my 'All Mighty' Scimitar.
The Arbiter has no downside.. none. It's good/great at absolutely everything. It's the king of all Fed ships.
I am betting by the size (it's larger than the KT Connie, and the KT Connie is bigger than the Galaxy) that it's going to have a turn rate of around 6 and inertia to match. We'll find out Monday/Tuesday, but it's almost certainly not going to fly anything like an Arbie.
I'm just going to be blunt here: that's HORRIBLE advice. You lose money hand over fist opening boxes vs just selling key unless you get super lucky and get a grand prize. Keys go for around 5.5m EC right now, and the average thing coming out of a lockbox will likely sell for 1m or less. If you want the stuff from the boxes, by all means, open them, but opening them strictly as a means to getting the 900 lobi you need to get the ship?
NO. JUST NO.
That's going to take 200 or so boxes (or $190 USD if you bought the keys on sale). That's enough to buy the ship at 750m (which it won't be) and still have 350m left for equipping it with everything else if you really feel like spending that much.
Let the people who have already farmed the lobi buy the ship for you. It's cheaper, less frustrating, and in the end, better for everyone (except maybe Cryptic and PWE).
can't know how much it'll be tell it comes out. and I did suggest getting lockbox stuff for all their characters if using keys. and did suggest getting ec to buy it though the exchange as a alternative... and wait keys have gotten that low. they dropped another mil, wow I really should have waited to spend my ec reserves on keys.
if I stop posting it doesn't make you right it. just means I don't have enough rum to continue interacting with you.
You really think that this ship is going to cost a different amount than every other T6 ship in the store, ever? I suppose it's possible, just like it's possible that the next ships will be Hello Kitty themed. Even if they sold it for the old T5 price, or you waited for them to go on sale, it's still bad advice. If you happen to have enough lobi to get a ship because you opened boxes to get other things, then go ahead and get a ship. That's the only scenario where it's a sane thing to do - period.
The thing to remember about selling keys is that you don't have to do it all at one time. Price dropped? Stop selling them, wait for it to go up again. It's not like they are going to run out of lobi ships, or the price is going to go up. Keys haven't dropped below 4m in a year or so, and they shoot up to close to or over 6m every time a new box comes out. If you miss the window for the high price, just wait 3 months for the next box and ride the wave again.
I meant the ec cost. we know it's gonna be 900 lobi what we don't know is how much the player base is going to think it's worth though the fact that key are dropping in ec price rapidly say this box will be in demand and anything from it goona cost an arm and a leg cause no one wants to "risk" opening a lockbox. cause everyone wants something from this pack and is selling keys to get the ec for it. cause you know making sure you pay the extreme end price something because you are unwilling to chance a faster way is cheaper. not even covering "yeah I spent nearly 200$ and got the ship... and nothing else." too bad if you open a few box you can get all kinds of goodies many of which are worth way more then keys. hell what does a kazon raider go for these days 200-300 mil and thats a terrible ship no body wants and most uniform pack go for what 80 mil not covering doffs, traits, consoles and other fun things. if my advice is bad yours is laughable.
if I stop posting it doesn't make you right it. just means I don't have enough rum to continue interacting with you.
Yep, my fleet t6 Excelsior can actually manage to do more damage than my t6 Galaxy Dreadnaught.
There are plenty of reasons to open boxes. Traits, weapons, consoles, even ships - all of those are fine, if that's what you want from them and you understand you are playing some slim odds. It's really only opening them specifically to get lobi that's insanely stupid.
At that point, you are no longer even taking a chance to see if you win, you are just plain forking over hundreds of dollars for a ship that is only ever so slightly better than one you can spend $30 on.
Love it and do so much better over the Fleet Arbiter.
While I'm sure no one doubts that the Yamato can tank, it tanks better than you need to in the current game. The problem with the Yamato is that it has 7 engineering BOff ability slots, which is 4 more than you usually need at end-game. This could be mitigated if you use the lieutenant commander hybrid slot for command BOff abilities, but these are so useless, that you wouldn't really get any good DPS out of them.
The arbiter has just enough tanking potential for end-game, while being able to dish out far more damage than the Yamato can.
Support 90 degree arc limitation on BFaW! Save our ships from looking like flying disco balls of dumb!
No one is saying the Yamato isn't a good ship.. it is. It's a perfectly viable ship and if it's the ship that someone wants, then that's what they should fly.
If you're looking for the 'best' or most 'optimal' ship setup however, then the Yamato can't touch the Arbiter. The Arbiter can take just as much as they Yamato while dealing superior damage.
Not everyone is concerned with being 'optimal' or having 'the best' setup, and that's totally cool. Some people just like the Yamato better.. rather it's the looks, or they like a bigger, heavier ship.. again, that's perfectly fine.
They're both good ships, one is just a bit better. Neither one of them suck.