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    stonewbiestonewbie Member Posts: 1,454 Arc User
    edited July 2016
    captsol wrote: »
    Cya! It's the only T6 Connie you'll ever be getting. If you have a problem with that then buy stock in CBS and change their ruling.

    1) i dont give a TRIBBLE about either connie

    2) a pattern that seems to be going around on the forums is that people are being smartasses or whatever toward those that have been asking for T5/T6 Connies...the ToS ones. Hey all you guys that want Connies are finally getting them hyuk hyuk hyuk. Like seriously what is the point of people doing TRIBBLE like that that? i may not be interested in either ship but that seems kinda like a dickish thing to say to a group of people that have been asking for years. And then people are all ohh its close enough or ohh well you know "technically" its a connie too so you are getting what you asked for.

    You have that JJ thread telling people i told you so, you got people getting a T6 JJ Connie telling the people asking for T5-T6 ToS Connies ohh i guess you are getting what you ask for in what seems like a mocking manner. Did the SWTOR crowd migrate over here while i was on vacation or something?
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    scarlingscarling Member Posts: 708 Arc User
    edited July 2016
    stonewbie wrote: »
    captsol wrote: »
    Cya! It's the only T6 Connie you'll ever be getting. If you have a problem with that then buy stock in CBS and change their ruling.

    1) i dont give a **** about either connie

    2) a pattern that seems to be going around on the forums is that people are being smartasses or whatever toward those that have been asking for T5/T6 Connies...the ToS ones. Hey all you guys that want Connies are finally getting them hyuk hyuk hyuk. Like seriously what is the point of people doing **** like that that? i may not be interested in either ship but that seems kinda like a dickish thing to say to a group of people that have been asking for years. And then people are all ohh its close enough or ohh well you know "technically" its a connie too so you are getting what you asked for.

    You have that JJ thread telling people i told you so, you got people getting a T6 JJ Connie telling the people asking for T5-T6 ToS Connies ohh i guess you are getting what you ask for in what seems like a mocking manner. Did the SWTOR crowd migrate over here while i was on vacation or something?

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    whamhammer1whamhammer1 Member Posts: 2,290 Arc User
    To me, Vengance looks like a Lego Cluster Frak wannabe kitbash of a Galaxy and a Sovereign with a hole drilled in the middle of the saucer. Thanks but no thanks.
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    stonewbiestonewbie Member Posts: 1,454 Arc User
    scarling wrote: »

    People that get mad over video game pixels.
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    I gotta spell it out for you too?

    Its not the "pixels" but peoples attitudes about the whole thing. One group of people got their pixels another group of people didnt. But i guess thats not enough but people gotta be TRIBBLE about the whole thing too? haha we told you so and technically this is a connie and TRIBBLE like that?

    You know...somewhere in orbit above earth i bet the ghosts of Gene Roddenberry, DeForest Kelley, James Doohan and Leonard Nimoy are all doing a simultaneous Picard-palm.
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    delliboydelliboy Member Posts: 288 Arc User
    The one thing I am noticing is that there are people who are going to complain no matter what Cryptic does. major buzz kill
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    foxman00foxman00 Member Posts: 1,481 Arc User
    delliboy wrote: »
    The one thing I am noticing is that there are people who are going to complain no matter what Cryptic does. major buzz kill

    That's Star Trek sci fi fans for you :) Make one section happy, annoy another :)
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    scarlingscarling Member Posts: 708 Arc User
    stonewbie wrote: »
    scarling wrote: »

    People that get mad over video game pixels.
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    I gotta spell it out for you too?

    Its not the "pixels" but peoples attitudes about the whole thing. One group of people got their pixels another group of people didnt. But i guess thats not enough but people gotta be **** about the whole thing too? haha we told you so and technically this is a connie and **** like that?

    You know...somewhere in orbit above earth i bet the ghosts of Gene Roddenberry, DeForest Kelley, James Doohan and Leonard Nimoy are all doing a simultaneous Picard-palm.

    sounds like entitlement.
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    vampeiyrevampeiyre Member Posts: 633 Arc User
    delliboy wrote: »
    The one thing I am noticing is that there are people who are going to complain no matter what Cryptic does. major buzz kill

    People who enjoy moaning will always find an excuse to do so, no matter how trifling.

    There will always be the "get off my lawn, you young whippersnappers!"-types. I'm old enough to be one, but I haven't given up on life, so I am not and never will be one of those.

    So, whenever you see some grampa crying about how things change, ignore him. He's a scared old fool who wants his youth back, and will never get it. Let him die in the misery he so enjoys.
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    snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
    farmallm wrote: »
    farmallm wrote: »
    farmallm wrote: »
    Sorry, but a Spoof ship does not make a T6 Connie and the refit version. So we the real Connie fans will still go on wanting the Connie. Now even more so!

    It's not a spoof ship. It's a Constitution class starship. It bears the name Enterprise. It's captain is James T. Kirk. And this ship will be T6 when it debuts in Star Trek Online. Just because you don't like this style of it, doesn't change the facts that this is a T6 Connie.

    Kelvin Constitution Class to be exact. Still no Constitution Class.

    To be exact, it's a Constitution class starship.

    Cryptic says so:
    Federation characters may find themselves fortunate enough to win the Kelvin Timeline Heavy Command Cruiser [T6]. Also known as the Constitution-class, this formidable vessel is a true Command Cruiser in every regard, including the ability to utilize Inspiration mechanics, and coming standard with a Commander-rank Command Specialist Bridge Officer Seat.

    Memory Alpha says so:
    The Constitution-class, also known as Starship class, was launched by Starfleet in the latter half of the 23rd century in the alternate reality. This class of starship differed greatly from its prime universe counterpart in both configuration and scale, but was exemplified by the USS Enterprise in both realities.

    And this fall, a brand new revised edition of the Star Trek Encyclopedia will also say so!

    It's a T6 Connie. Your sour grapes are silly.

    More like the Spoof Connie. Or better yet, CINO - Connie In Name Only. There is one Connie, the TOS and Refit in TMP. The rest are just imposters.

    Best. Troll. Ever!

    There's only one ship you say.

    And then cite TWO ships!

    /salute

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    duncanidaho11duncanidaho11 Member Posts: 7,867 Arc User

    There's only one ship you say.

    And then cite TWO ships!

    Pssst, refit NCC-1701 is the same ship as NCC-1701. It's just been refit. :p
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    kekvinkekvin Member Posts: 633 Arc User
    Kelvin constitution is getting us closer to a tmp constitution. :)
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    mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    I am glad we're getting this one, but I also would love to see the other two Connies going to Tier 6 - and if only so I can use the Tier 2 Refit skin.
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    darkbladejkdarkbladejk Member Posts: 3,715 Community Moderator
    Let's be real here, we're never going to see the original series t1 ship at end game, it's just not going to happen. What you might could hope for is the Exeter T2 refit type of Constitution class. As for having the TOS variant, that's just not going to happen and it's a dead horse that keeps getting beaten again and again and again. You can ask all you want but until you convince CBS to change their minds that's the way it will be.

    With that in mind some people really make me want to bang my head against a wall. You said for years you wanted a Constitution, then they give you a Constitution variant at t6 and STILL people complain. Yes it may be the JJverse version but like it or not, you did get a Constitution t6 like you asked for.

    As for all the hate on the JJverse, I'm not a fan of everything that was done with the films either but I'm also not a fan of everything done in the TV series as well. Both have their pros and cons. I know, what blasphemy did I just speak right. JJverse brought new life into the series that was desperately needed and allowed Trek to be introduced to the next generation (pun intended) of folks who will enjoy the movies and the series as well in time. Honestly movies like the old ones of TNG and TOS while good, wouldn't do as well in today's market as they would have then, that's just the way things go. In the TNG episode where Worf is switching between realities it's made clear in that episode there are over 10m parallel universes in Trek, and that's just the ones they were able to scan. I seriously don't see a legit reason as to why the JJverse couldn't be considered one of them. Heck the Borg had wiped out the Federation in one of those universes so crazy stuff is not unheard of.
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    wintersnowblindwintersnowblind Member Posts: 8 Arc User
    I might be in the minority, but when I asked for a T6 Constitution I did expect something like the Exeter and not literally the old TOS version. Almost every other style of ship in the game has a T5/6 variant that updates the design and brings it up to contemporary standards at endgame, so why not the Connie? I happen to like the configuration and would like to be able to fly around something like that.

    And while I don't mind the JJ movies (I would have bought the Kelvin Enterprise if it weren't in a lockbox) that style of Constitution is still different and doesn't really fit with the aesthetics of the rest of the game, so although we have that one, I'm still going to keep asking for a main-timeline one.
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    evilmark444evilmark444 Member Posts: 6,950 Arc User
    Let's be real here, we're never going to see the original series t1 ship at end game, it's just not going to happen. What you might could hope for is the Exeter T2 refit type of Constitution class. As for having the TOS variant, that's just not going to happen and it's a dead horse that keeps getting beaten again and again and again. You can ask all you want but until you convince CBS to change their minds that's the way it will be.

    With that in mind some people really make me want to bang my head against a wall. You said for years you wanted a Constitution, then they give you a Constitution variant at t6 and STILL people complain. Yes it may be the JJverse version but like it or not, you did get a Constitution t6 like you asked for.

    As for all the hate on the JJverse, I'm not a fan of everything that was done with the films either but I'm also not a fan of everything done in the TV series as well. Both have their pros and cons. I know, what blasphemy did I just speak right. JJverse brought new life into the series that was desperately needed and allowed Trek to be introduced to the next generation (pun intended) of folks who will enjoy the movies and the series as well in time. Honestly movies like the old ones of TNG and TOS while good, wouldn't do as well in today's market as they would have then, that's just the way things go. In the TNG episode where Worf is switching between realities it's made clear in that episode there are over 10m parallel universes in Trek, and that's just the ones they were able to scan. I seriously don't see a legit reason as to why the JJverse couldn't be considered one of them. Heck the Borg had wiped out the Federation in one of those universes so crazy stuff is not unheard of.

    Geko was asked last night about a TOS or TMP style T6 Constitution. He did not say "CBS said no" like we've always been told, he instead said "I can't answer that right now." After that, when asked if he had any thoughts on the thread discussing the merits of a T6 Excalibur WITHOUT connie parts, he said something to the effect of "I don't think that would be necessary."

    All I'm going to say is that those comments are a big change from the straight up "No" we've heard in the past.
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    sheldonlcoopersheldonlcooper Member Posts: 4,042 Arc User
    Maybe a T4 or T5 as a giveaway for the actual 50th celebration?
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    duncanidaho11duncanidaho11 Member Posts: 7,867 Arc User
    Maybe a T4 or T5 as a giveaway for the actual 50th celebration?

    Or just straight-up T6, though I'm pegging c-store. If they're going to include an end-game version I don't see that they'd need to reach a compromise (they're allowing every other 23rd century FED ship to effectively become T6 through their 26th century analogs.)
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    farmallmfarmallm Member Posts: 4,630 Arc User
    edited July 2016
    Best. Troll. Ever!

    There's only one ship you say.

    And then cite TWO ships!

    /salute

    /thread

    This is the best troll ever. He don't even know what Star Trek is! Poor poor Snoogy, never saw the TMP!
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    farmallmfarmallm Member Posts: 4,630 Arc User
    edited July 2016
    Let's be real here, we're never going to see the original series t1 ship at end game, it's just not going to happen. What you might could hope for is the Exeter T2 refit type of Constitution class. As for having the TOS variant, that's just not going to happen and it's a dead horse that keeps getting beaten again and again and again. You can ask all you want but until you convince CBS to change their minds that's the way it will be.

    With that in mind some people really make me want to bang my head against a wall. You said for years you wanted a Constitution, then they give you a Constitution variant at t6 and STILL people complain. Yes it may be the JJverse version but like it or not, you did get a Constitution t6 like you asked for.

    As for all the hate on the JJverse, I'm not a fan of everything that was done with the films either but I'm also not a fan of everything done in the TV series as well. Both have their pros and cons. I know, what blasphemy did I just speak right. JJverse brought new life into the series that was desperately needed and allowed Trek to be introduced to the next generation (pun intended) of folks who will enjoy the movies and the series as well in time. Honestly movies like the old ones of TNG and TOS while good, wouldn't do as well in today's market as they would have then, that's just the way things go. In the TNG episode where Worf is switching between realities it's made clear in that episode there are over 10m parallel universes in Trek, and that's just the ones they were able to scan. I seriously don't see a legit reason as to why the JJverse couldn't be considered one of them. Heck the Borg had wiped out the Federation in one of those universes so crazy stuff is not unheard of.

    Geko was asked last night about a TOS or TMP style T6 Constitution. He did not say "CBS said no" like we've always been told, he instead said "I can't answer that right now." After that, when asked if he had any thoughts on the thread discussing the merits of a T6 Excalibur WITHOUT connie parts, he said something to the effect of "I don't think that would be necessary."

    All I'm going to say is that those comments are a big change from the straight up "No" we've heard in the past.

    I talked to Reps alot over the years on a few different things. Going to shows seeing their new stuff. Most Reps are told by their bosses they can't talk about upcoming stuff they are working on. Only the current and older products. As they don't want the word to get out to their competition and other issues. So this is why he is saying this on the Connie subject. He was more likely told not to talk about it by his boss. As the old saying goes, loose lips sinks ships. I still have hopes they will finally come around to do it.
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    ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,569 Arc User
    Competition? You mean with the other Star Trek Online Massively Multi-player Online Game?
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    comrademococomrademoco Member Posts: 1,694 Bug Hunter
    I guess I'm not a real trek fan because I like the Kelvin Timeline more than the prime Timeline.
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    sheldonlcoopersheldonlcooper Member Posts: 4,042 Arc User
    I guess I'm not a real trek fan because I like the Kelvin Timeline more than the prime Timeline.

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    kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    Let's be real here, we're never going to see the original series t1 ship at end game, it's just not going to happen.

    I am so going to enjoy flying my t6 TOS ships in front of you
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    themetalstickmanthemetalstickman Member Posts: 1,010 Arc User
    hajmyis wrote: »
    all his "Yay Hype" for JJ stuff just confirms my belief that "true" trek fans, the ones who understand what trek represents and what it stands for are the great minority in this game, and their numbers are getting smaller. JJ is not trek, is not cannon nor does the story make any sense in any way, yet more people who play this game believe in the JJ.

    You can sit there and try to defend JJ but you are lying to your self when you say it is cannon. But if you go outside of Sto into other trek communities, they hate JJ. Adding these ships and the "Kelvin" whatever they wanna call it is proof that Roddenberry's vision does not exist in this game.

    I should not be so shocked anymore. Most true trek fans left this game years ago and never came back. Sto is not trek, It is and more so then ever just a space arcade with trek paint, and now it has JJ paint.

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    kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    that post makes me want to link one of those 'ITS SALE TIME' videos about steam sales
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    ioneonioneon Member Posts: 207 Arc User
    farmallm wrote: »
    spoof

    Do own stock in this word?

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    tigrovaya13akulatigrovaya13akula Member Posts: 151 Arc User
    scarling wrote: »
    Such sexy beasts, I can taste all the salty tears.
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    farmallmfarmallm Member Posts: 4,630 Arc User
    ioneon wrote: »
    farmallm wrote: »
    spoof

    Do own stock in this word?

    I do and any words you say. Thanks for your contribution. :p
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    talonxvtalonxv Member Posts: 4,257 Arc User

    There's only one ship you say.

    And then cite TWO ships!

    Pssst, refit NCC-1701 is the same ship as NCC-1701. It's just been refit. :p

    So I guess the Enterprise A doesn't count then?
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    snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
    edited July 2016
    farmallm wrote: »
    Best. Troll. Ever!

    There's only one ship you say.

    And then cite TWO ships!

    /salute

    /thread

    This is the best troll ever. He don't even know what Star Trek is! Poor poor Snoogy, never saw the TMP!

    I've probably seen it more than you have. But I have to ask, are you talking about the Enterprise refit? Or the Enterprise A? Sometimes it's hard to tell since the models are pretty similar, and the ships are pretty much the same. They are however, different from the ship Kirk captained on the television show. Which they spend a lot of time pointing out in the films.

    Which the game here represents by making them two different ships at two different tiers.

    So please, enlighten me as to which Enterprise is the ONE TRUE Enterprise? The TOS one? The motion pictures one? The Excelsior one from Generations? The Galaxy class one from TNG? The Sovereign from the TNG films? The NX that Archer captained? Or the Odyssey class one Shon is captain of? Or the one we're all about to see at the Battle of Prochyon in a few days?

    Which Enterprise is more true to the name Enterprise? Obviously not the one Kirk is going to watch blow up in the movie at the end of this month. I get it. You don't like the new films. But I'm still trying to find out what your criteria for REAL and TRUE are when it comes to Trek.

    Could you post a guide? It would help the rest of us keep track. Your Head Canon Matters to us!
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