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personal shilds in TOS // been invented after TNG?!

scrooge69scrooge69 Member Posts: 1,108 Arc User
errr did they have PS in TOS?
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  • evilmark444evilmark444 Member Posts: 6,951 Arc User
    nope
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  • scrooge69scrooge69 Member Posts: 1,108 Arc User
    I remember that when STO launched there was an explanation where those PS came from who invented them wehn in the gab

    but for the temporal faction they really should get available much l8er dont u think?
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  • preikopreiko Member Posts: 316 Arc User
    edited May 2016
    It was a Worf Episode, He and his son Alexander had a western Holodeck Programm , at the same time LaForge did a upload or Update of Datas Andriod Brain.

    Something went wrong and Data was all over that Holodeck Program every single character including the gunslinger
    worf had no Chance in the Stand-off against him because of Datas Reflexes, so he build a Personal Shield out of his
    ... his starfleet Communicator but i had only the strength to hold one Shot or couple of seconds
    enough for Worf to shoot Data and end the Programm

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    Worf finishes making a simple force field generator with some telegraph parts and his combadge functioning as a power source. When Troi asks how long the field will last he tells her not more than fifteen seconds because the field is very unstable.
  • vetteguy904vetteguy904 Member Posts: 3,943 Arc User
    IIRC according to STO lore the personal shield was created by Kyoshi O'Brien
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  • phenomenaut01phenomenaut01 Member Posts: 714 Arc User
    edited May 2016
    I'd prefer that they drop the personal shield and the armor out of the TOS portion as well (actually, neither really made much sense to me, and don't really fit the "lore" of Star Trek, but what are you gonna do, it's a game), but I don't think it'll happen because it would require a fundamental change to the game mechanics.

    The whole combat system is based around having the shield and armor for defense against the weapons, instead of having a more natural (to Star Trek at least) stun/wound/kill sort of design, and adjusting the weapons, HP and other stats accordingly.

    But that's all too much to try and work into a game, especially when players of other games are so used to the offense/defense set up. It would potentially be off-putting to non-trek fans.

    Innovation can be a risky business.
  • dareaudareau Member Posts: 2,390 Arc User
    Temporal Agents are beefing up the "TAS EV Shield" into something that can withstand weapon's fire...
    Detecting big-time "anti-old-school" bias here. NX? Lobi. TOS/TMP Connie? Super-promotion-box. (aka the two hardest ways to get ships) Excelsior & all 3 TNG "big hero" ships? C-Store. Please Equalize...

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  • scrooge69scrooge69 Member Posts: 1,108 Arc User
    I think it shouldnt be too hard to let armor and or shidl away from the TOS story line until it reaches the "future" and balance enemys so that u dotn eed PS
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  • kamenriderzero1kamenriderzero1 Member Posts: 906 Arc User
    edited May 2016
    one could argue the environmental belts were of similar design (we are roughly concurrent with TAS).

    But, as I like to point out, there are limits to the game's engine design. as currently set up, PCs have shields. we can nitpick this detail later when the rifle bug is fixed.
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  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,009 Arc User
    edited May 2016
    one could argue the environmental belts were of similar design (we are roughly concurrent with TAS).

    But, as I like to point out, there are limits to the game's engine design. as currently set up, PCs have shields. we can nitpick this detail later when the rifle bug is fixed.

    They could make it work, but Geko et al. are very determined that nothing that was in TAS belongs into AoY (see the thread about Caitians in AoY (there are none)) so they would shoot themselves in the metaphorical foot when they started to use TAS technology as a basis for AoY appearances.

    No, the reason for that is that shields and armour are just a part of the game, it's hardcoded in. AoY does nothing but simply use different costumes and textures, it's still the same game (and as it looks a lot of wasted opportunity, sadly)​​
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  • daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    They decided arbitrarily what to add and what not to add to this expansion according to Gecko. (not a direct quote)
    They held meetings and came up with a consensus of what They felt was pertinent.

    It is what it is.
    We can only express our pleasure/displeasure and hope They continue to fiddle with it based on our feedback.

    (I know, I know... that's highly unlikely but one can dream)

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  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,009 Arc User
    Of course it is what it is and of course I'll voice my pleasure and displeasure. Right now I think they didn't make a good call with the limitations they set themselves - I haven't seen much of the actual content besides a video from the tribble server and it looks very WIP still. However, as you pointed out, feedback on that scale is rather pointless as content wise the expansion is finished for a long time now.

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    ^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
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    "A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
    "That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
  • evilmark444evilmark444 Member Posts: 6,951 Arc User
    At least they made a close approximation to what a personal shield effect would have looked like in the 60's
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  • crypticrockcrypticrock Member Posts: 120 Cryptic Developer
    This is a case where we felt the core game-play mechanic needed to be preserved.
  • sunfranckssunfrancks Member Posts: 3,925 Arc User
    edited May 2016
    This is a case where we felt the core game-play mechanic needed to be preserved.

    So no Catian, Saurian and Trill races, because they weren't seen in TOS, but we can have personal shields?

    Right....

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  • scrooge69scrooge69 Member Posts: 1,108 Arc User
    sunfrancks wrote: »
    This is a case where we felt the core game-play mechanic needed to be preserved.

    So no Catian, Saurian and Trill races, because they weren't seen in TOS, but we can have personal shields?

    Right....


    yeah im totally with u
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  • daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    One from Column A

    One From Column B

    None from Column Catian.

    B)
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  • orangeitisorangeitis Member Posts: 5,222 Arc User
    edited May 2016
    This is a case where we felt the core game-play mechanic needed to be preserved.
    Are you making a Star Trek game or just a game with Star Trek elements tacked on to it?

    Because that statement only goes with one of those two options.​​
  • daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    edited May 2016
    Let's not attack the one Dev who is willing to talk to us about it, and probably ISN'T the one who made the final decision.
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  • scrooge69scrooge69 Member Posts: 1,108 Arc User
    it just woudl ve been nice they talked to the community about it b4
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  • sunfranckssunfrancks Member Posts: 3,925 Arc User
    edited May 2016
    daveyny wrote: »
    Let's not attack the one Dev who is willing to talk to us about it, and probably ISN'T the one who made the final decision.
    B)

    Yeah, I know. The main guy making the decisions, is in the land of make believe. ;)
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  • arabaturarabatur Member Posts: 410 Arc User
    daveyny wrote: »
    Let's not attack the one Dev who is willing to talk to us about it, and probably ISN'T the one who made the final decision.
    B)

    As if that person is going to explain themselves here!
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  • daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    Stranger things have happened around here.
    Especially when Dstahl was still around.
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  • evilmark444evilmark444 Member Posts: 6,951 Arc User
    daveyny wrote: »
    One from Column A

    One From Column B

    None from Column Catian.

    B)

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  • daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    edited May 2016
    Apparently, this is a compli-Caitian They don't want to add.
    <snicker>
    >:)
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  • saurializardsaurializard Member Posts: 4,404 Arc User
    edited May 2016
    For me, it's fine, an acceptable break from reality/canon.

    That said, a possible enhancement would be to give the shields available in TOS zero shielding ability and a huge dodge chance and mitigation to counterbalance.

    Also, give us Caitian, pretty, please.
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  • sunfranckssunfrancks Member Posts: 3,925 Arc User
    daveyny wrote: »
    Apparently, this a compli-Caitian They don't want to add.
    <snicker>
    >:)

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  • daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    edited May 2016
    What's wrong?

    You don't like my new form of communi-Caitian?

    I find it to be a rather lovely form of gratifi-Caitian.

    But I suppose you want a justifi-Caitian for my fabri-Caitian's.

    Well, you'll get none from me, cause I'm going on my va-Caitian.
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  • evilmark444evilmark444 Member Posts: 6,951 Arc User
    daveyny wrote: »
    What's wrong?

    You don't like my new form of communi-Caitian?

    I find it to be a rather lovely form of gratifi-Caitian.

    But I suppose you want a justifi-Caitian for my fabri-Caitian's.

    Well, you'll get none from me, cause I'm going on my va-Caitian.
    >:)

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    i must've started a trend...now everyone is posting pokemon pics​​
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