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lexusk19lexusk19 Member Posts: 1,426 Arc User
So yeah.. About the most unimaginative content I have seen.. Kill a huge amount of badies with a bunch of pugs who cant get above 5k dps and just when you think your done, mega wave inbound! :D Oh and then at the end of the long boring mission... heres 30 marks.

Never doing this que again...
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  • hyplhypl Member Posts: 3,719 Arc User
    The only thing I hate is getting a damned random pop up while in sector space. Red Alerts are in need of some UI tweaks. A single button on the side that opens up a list of emergencies in the current shard. From there you can choose which ones to tackle, Borg, Tholian, Na'khul, etc.
  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,572 Arc User
    People are reporting the Tholian seems to have gone silent. Don't know that myself.
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  • tousseautousseau Member Posts: 1,484 Arc User
    You know... "hate" is such a strong word.
    If anything, what gets me about the new RA, is the pop-up spam when in sector space. It even pops up when sitting idle.

    Otherwise, the choice of marks is really nice... I like choices. :)
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  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,789 Arc User
    What irks me is people too lazy to post in any of the existing 10 threads :)
  • elric071elric071 Member Posts: 159 Arc User
    edited April 2016
    I couldn't agree more with the spam pop up!!! I was trying to spec my first character after patching yesterday and I bet it popped up 7 or 8 times!!! I also hate that the RA has a 30 min cooldown like other RA's (not the part I hate....lol) and the pop up STILL pops up even when you can't do the mission.....

    Really annoying....

    As for the mission, I neither like nor dislike it....it is standard bill of fare for STO these days IMO. I do like the choice of marks, though :)....I was getting sick of GG and the last two Kobali ground missions to get Iconian Marks. It's nice to have something a little different :)
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  • murkalael#7691 murkalael Member Posts: 184 Arc User
    I hate that my Boff keeps saying for me to go there, I'm almost dismissing all of them just to don't see that poup up again. Cryptic is acting like a spammer for the new q
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  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,572 Arc User
    Fixing the pop-up in tomorrow's patch.
    'But to be logical is not to be right', and 'nothing' on God's earth could ever 'make it' right!'
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  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,919 Arc User
    Fixing the pop up will be a welcome change.

    Other then that, my biggest complaint is the fact that it seems to have completely replaced all other red alerts. I haven't seen a Borg or Tholian Red Alert since the patch.

    That part, I definitely don't like.
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  • tousseautousseau Member Posts: 1,484 Arc User
    I've seen Borg... just not the Tholian.
  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,938 Community Moderator
    The one thing I find frustrating in the Na'Kuhl Alert is how target rich the map is. We're talking LOTS of enemies. And when you're the only one in range... its painful.
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
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  • lucho80lucho80 Member Posts: 6,600 Bug Hunter
    Fixing the pop up will be a welcome change.

    Other then that, my biggest complaint is the fact that it seems to have completely replaced all other red alerts. I haven't seen a Borg or Tholian Red Alert since the patch.

    That part, I definitely don't like.

    I see them all the time. Just look when you have 2 red alert signs.
  • sennahcheribsennahcherib Member Posts: 2,823 Arc User
    The only thing I hate is getting a damned random pop up while in sector space.

    this.

    what an annoying idea
  • tousseautousseau Member Posts: 1,484 Arc User
    edited April 2016
    [quote="rattler2;12901777"]The one thing I find frustrating in the Na'Kuhl Alert is how target rich the map is. We're talking LOTS of enemies. And when you're the only one in range... its painful.[/quote]
    I found with my escorts and having the Strategic specialty active, kick in the threat generation... the boost to tanking is scary fun.
  • postinggumpostinggum Member Posts: 1,117 Arc User
    Feels rather retro; the lack or red alert content seems stange as you'd think it would be easy to build and give players that one last thing to do before logging-off.
  • semalda226semalda226 Member Posts: 1,994 Arc User
    Meh I don't hate it. It's fun to have a new sitting duck to kill with a clone/immortality gimmick. That said...they still die as easily as everything else in the game. The Vaadwaur was a step in the right direction with attempts at flanking and running away to use Artillery Bursts and actually gave many players (myself included) a good fight on Elite. Sadly I don't think enemies will ever really advance beyond [circle the target, fire all weapons (2 beams and a torpedo), activate racial gimmick ability every 90 seconds] for its AI.
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  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,919 Arc User
    lucho80 wrote: »
    Fixing the pop up will be a welcome change.

    Other then that, my biggest complaint is the fact that it seems to have completely replaced all other red alerts. I haven't seen a Borg or Tholian Red Alert since the patch.

    That part, I definitely don't like.

    I see them all the time. Just look when you have 2 red alert signs.

    Guess I'm just having bad luck then, haven't seen the dual red alert yet.

    Whenever I change instances the Na'Kul alert is always up. Is the Na'Kul alert permanent for everyone? I haven't seen even 1 min that it hasn't been up.
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  • peterconnorfirstpeterconnorfirst Member Posts: 6,225 Arc User
    edited April 2016
    lexusk19 wrote: »
    So yeah.. About the most unimaginative content I have seen.. Kill a huge amount of badies with a bunch of pugs who cant get above 5k dps and just when you think your done, mega wave inbound! :D Oh and then at the end of the long boring mission... heres 30 marks.

    Never doing this que again...

    How much DPS do you do?

    So far I found when any of my toon surpass 50k ISA DPS on their builds the influence of low contributing players in public PvE begin to loose relevance on most maps. Think the new RA is even normal difficulty setting which is likely and supposed to attract new, inexperienced or under geared players which fly bored through sector space. Blaming them for low DPS in a normal map is not cool.
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  • peterconnorfirstpeterconnorfirst Member Posts: 6,225 Arc User
    edited April 2016
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  • szimszim Member Posts: 2,503 Arc User
    I don't hate it. But it's nothing special. Warp in, BFAW for 5 minutes, warp out, done.

    What does annoy me is the pop up in sector space and the fact that the queue seems to attract AFK players like flies.
  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,938 Community Moderator
    szim wrote: »
    What does annoy me is the pop up in sector space...

    Should be fixed with tomorrow's patch.
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
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  • nateham101#2745 nateham101 Member Posts: 420 Arc User
    lexusk19 wrote: »
    So yeah.. About the most unimaginative content I have seen.. Kill a huge amount of badies with a bunch of pugs who cant get above 5k dps and just when you think your done, mega wave inbound! :D Oh and then at the end of the long boring mission... heres 30 marks.

    Never doing this que again...

    Dont blame you. Big problem with alot of the queue's..mark rewards, rewards in general are severely lacking. Their attempt at keeping people playing longer. But imo, it just drives them away.
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  • nateham101#2745 nateham101 Member Posts: 420 Arc User
    lexusk19 wrote: »
    So yeah.. About the most unimaginative content I have seen.. Kill a huge amount of badies with a bunch of pugs who cant get above 5k dps and just when you think your done, mega wave inbound! :D Oh and then at the end of the long boring mission... heres 30 marks.

    Never doing this que again...

    How much DPS do you do?

    So far I found when any of my toon surpass 50k ISA DPS on their builds the influence of low contributing players in public PvE begin to loose relevance on most maps. Think the new RA is even normal difficulty setting which is likely and supposed to attract new, inexperienced or under geared players which fly bored through sector space. Blaming them for low DPS in a normal map is not cool.

    50k is not bad. More than enough for any non advanced/elite content. Would be fun to take my 75k+ in there and solo the new alert, but from what ive read, Ill stay away too. ;-)
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  • mmps1mmps1 Member Posts: 381 Arc User
    Choice of marks for the same time or less it takes to do a thol ra, works for me. Wish it gave the same starship mastery xp though.
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  • peterconnorfirstpeterconnorfirst Member Posts: 6,225 Arc User
    lexusk19 wrote: »
    So yeah.. About the most unimaginative content I have seen.. Kill a huge amount of badies with a bunch of pugs who cant get above 5k dps and just when you think your done, mega wave inbound! :D Oh and then at the end of the long boring mission... heres 30 marks.

    Never doing this que again...

    How much DPS do you do?

    So far I found when any of my toon surpass 50k ISA DPS on their builds the influence of low contributing players in public PvE begin to loose relevance on most maps. Think the new RA is even normal difficulty setting which is likely and supposed to attract new, inexperienced or under geared players which fly bored through sector space. Blaming them for low DPS in a normal map is not cool.

    50k is not bad. More than enough for any non advanced/elite content. Would be fun to take my 75k+ in there and solo the new alert, but from what ive read, Ill stay away too. ;-)



    I Didn’t get around to do the new red alert yet myself. Atm I try to get my toons in order but after the first few test ISA pugs I’m mildly surprised of the new options: 112k TAC toon DPS with Cannons, 79K SCI toon DPS with beams! I think the new system offers a lot for us. Considering is the basic skill tree we are not even talking about real power creep.

    I truly believe that any good players around do not need to complain about under-performing peeps anymore. They can cut through 90% of the contend just fine on their own. In my opinion that is a good thing because it has the potential to bring live to queues a great deal. :)
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  • lordsteve1lordsteve1 Member Posts: 3,492 Arc User
    I found it a bit boring to be honest, because it's just a case of warp in and a few cruisers spam BFAW and kill everything in mere seconds. I don't think I got many hits in with a torp boat before the whole map was dead.
    It's another map which the BFAW crowd can just sit and mash spacebar in for 5 mins whilst everyone else scrambles to get the scraps.
    It's the problem with a lot of the team content now, rather than worrying about fighting the enemy we're worrying about whether we'll do enough damage compared to each other and have a chance to actually engage the enemy.
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  • arabaturarabatur Member Posts: 410 Arc User
    edited April 2016
    I hate that you cannot spell queue correctly ;)
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  • myklodmyklod Member Posts: 35 Arc User
    The new stf/red alert/whatever seems chaotic and kind of dull. Just fly there kill, fly there kill, and fly there kill. Its not bad as a red alert I suppose, but nothing special. Not bad, not great, decent quick resource/mark grab.
  • catsmeatcatsmeat Member Posts: 106 Arc User
    I actually like the target rich environment. It's not hard but fun. I've mostly played it with friends teamed before entry as opposed to 100% PUG.

    The daily rewards sure are nice.

    I suppose if you dislike it so much you must use 'hate' to describe it you can simply not queue for it, that seems simple enough of a solution to your problem.
  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    edited April 2016
    arabatur wrote: »
    I hate that you cannot spell queue correctly ;)
    @arabatur
    I guess this thread was
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