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omi weapons not fitting in aft slots

sagen#3662 sagen
sagen#3662
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in Star Trek Online General Discussion
I just started crafting Omni weapons to put in the aft slots. After placing the first one, the next one won't equip. I have seen builds of 3 or more omnis in aft slots. I have to keep equipping turrets until I equip the omnis. What is up with this?

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  • manners2#5415 manners2
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    They will be using 1 Borg Kinetic cutting beam, 1 ancient Omni and 1 crafted Omni, only way you can equip 3 as far as I know
  • jade1280jade1280 Member Posts: 868 Arc User
    With the omni arrays you cannot have more then 1 of the same type so that is probably why as the post above me states different omni arrays can be synagized.
  • nateham101#2745 nateham101
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    edited April 2016
    The Omni polaron will also fit with the Omni chronometric array from the space set that you acquire from the Time and Tide mission.
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,582 Community Moderator
    The only damage types that will allow you to slot more than one are Polaron, Antiproton, and Tetryon, as those are mission rewards that you can slot with a matching damage Crafted Omni.

    I THINK there's an Agony Phaser Omni as well that might work, but that one is lockbox and probably an arm and a leg on the Exchange.

    The reason they're doing that is to prevent people from making entire loadouts of Omnis. Just imagine the devastation 8 matching Omnis could do on a cruiser spamming BFAW and AP Beta. :o
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  • sagen#3662 sagen
    sagen#3662
         Member Posts: 454 Arc User
    Thank you for the great comments. I do recall now that builds use Borg and Ancient as well as crafted on one build. Did I mis-understand that multiple crafted polaron, tetryon, and antiproton omnis could be equipped. I'm running AP now and only one per vessel. It's an intriguing idea to run all omnis. Is there enough Omni diversity that would allow this?
  • manners2#5415 manners2
    manners2#5415
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    edited April 2016
    rattler2 wrote: »
    The only damage types that will allow you to slot more than one are Polaron, Antiproton, and Tetryon, as those are mission rewards that you can slot with a matching damage Crafted Omni.

    I THINK there's an Agony Phaser Omni as well that might work, but that one is lockbox and probably an arm and a leg on the Exchange.

    The reason they're doing that is to prevent people from making entire loadouts of Omnis. Just imagine the devastation 8 matching Omnis could do on a cruiser spamming BFAW and AP Beta. :o

    Add into that aux to batt, OSS and Surgical Strikes.
  • sagen#3662 sagen
    sagen#3662
         Member Posts: 454 Arc User
    I'm also a bit confused about a single damage type being the restriction. I would assume the restriction is one crafted Omni of any type. Could I build omnis of different damage types to equip?
  • manners2#5415 manners2
    manners2#5415
         Member Posts: 6 Arc User
    You could do whats called a rainbow build but people frown upon that. Comes down to not being able to get them good with modules, concentrate firepower man.
  • sagen#3662 sagen
    sagen#3662
         Member Posts: 454 Arc User
    Ok, some outstanding questions"

    What is a rainbow build? Never heard of it.

    Can I quip more than one AP Omni on aft?

    Can I put crafted omis of different damage types in aft slot?

    Is there any way to actually put Omni on all weapon slots?
  • odinforever20000odinforever20000 Member Posts: 1,849 Arc User
    sagen#3662 wrote: »
    Ok, some outstanding questions"

    What is a rainbow build? Never heard of it.

    Can I quip more than one AP Omni on aft?

    Can I put crafted omis of different damage types in aft slot?

    Is there any way to actually put Omni on all weapon slots?

    1.) Multiple energy types mixing AP, pol, TET,PhASer...you get the idea..
    2.) just the Ancient Omni ..and only 1 of those too..
    3.)Sure..but then that could be a rainbow boat..
    4.)No.

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  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,582 Community Moderator
    edited April 2016
    A Rainbow build is one that mixes damage types, such as mounting at least one of each Phaser, Disruptor, Polaron, Plasma, Tetryon, and Antiproton. Or any combination of them.

    There are psudo rainbow builds as well that still use the same damage type. For example Phaser, Andorian Phaser, Bio-Molecular Phaser, Phased Biomatter, and Retro Phaser. Different colors, but same damage type.
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  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,919 Arc User
    edited April 2016
    Putting a Borg KCB in your Aft with a crafted AP Omni and the Mission Reward AP Omni does not make you a 'rainbow build,' and is a common practice. Especially if you also equip the Assimilated Module Universal console to get the 2pc Set Bonus.

    If you're running an AP build and have 3 Aft Weapon Slots put 1 crafted AP Omni, The Ancient Omni from mission reward and the Borg KCB. Adding the Borg Console will also give you the 2pc Set Bonus.
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  • nikeixnikeix Member Posts: 3,972 Arc User
    The rule for Omni's appears to be 1 crafted (any damage type) + 1 mission reward (any damage type available so far). The Borg Cutting beam is not part of either group and can be mounted along with either or both.

    The Omni Agony Phaser from the Incursion Lock Box is considered a crafted weapon for this limitation. I'm hoping the Nakul Lock Box will offer Omni Chronoplasmas, again counting towards the Crafted limit. I wish they'd go back and update the old lock boxes with this feature as I'd love an Omni Phased Biomatter weapon for my Narcine.
  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    The Spire [+beam} consoles make rainbow omni builds not awful.​​
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  • seriousdaveseriousdave Member Posts: 2,777 Arc User
    artan42 wrote: »
    The Spire [+beam} consoles make rainbow omni builds not awful.​​

    Sure, not awful but you still get a worse result for the same price. Especially once you start upgrading them in mk & quality.
  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    seriousdave wrote: »
    artan42 wrote: »
    The Spire [+beam} consoles make rainbow omni builds not awful.

    Sure, not awful but you still get a worse result for the same price. Especially once you start upgrading them in mk & quality.

    Oh I know. I'm just saying that if the OPs managed to bind all those omnis to their character then it's not the end of the world.​​
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    Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
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  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,919 Arc User
    edited April 2016
    seriousdave wrote: »
    artan42 wrote: »
    The Spire [+beam} consoles make rainbow omni builds not awful.​​

    Sure, not awful but you still get a worse result for the same price. Especially once you start upgrading them in mk & quality.

    Difference is actually slim to none. There are so many things that already grant Cat 1 damage boosts that many players won't see any type of real loss between a +(Type) vs +Beam. Truth be told, the real advantage to the Spire Consoles is in the +Crit Chance anyway. If someone wants to go +Beam and run rainbows, it's actually perfectly viable. Many players already have so many Cat 1 damage boosts anyway that it really doesn't make a difference anymore.

    If you're not doing parsed runs and trying to squeeze every last single percent, it's really six of one, half a dozen of the other.
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  • neos472neos472 Member Posts: 580 Arc User
    edited April 2016
    nateham101#2745 wrote: »
    The Omni polaron will also fit with the Omni chronometric array from the space set that you acquire from the Time and Tide mission.

    agreed my Annorax runs both on it
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  • annemarie30annemarie30 Member Posts: 2,694 Arc User
    nikeix wrote: »
    The rule for Omni's appears to be 1 crafted (any damage type) + 1 mission reward (any damage type available so far). The Borg Cutting beam is not part of either group and can be mounted along with either or both.

    The Omni Agony Phaser from the Incursion Lock Box is considered a crafted weapon for this limitation. I'm hoping the Nakul Lock Box will offer Omni Chronoplasmas, again counting towards the Crafted limit. I wish they'd go back and update the old lock boxes with this feature as I'd love an Omni Phased Biomatter weapon for my Narcine.

    so no crafted + agony 360.. that sux you woulda thunk they would have 360 phaser and disruptor for the purists
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