I personally would like to see a T6 3 pack bundle of KDF secondary race ships, such as the Gorn.
I'd definitely buy a bundle containing a Gorn Baluur Dreadnaught (with science focus), an Orion Warbarge Dreadnaught (with carrier/Eng focus) and a Nausicaan Ravager Dreadnaught (with Tac/drain focus). It would even encourage me to create new chars to fly them - creating more demand for dil, gear, etc.
I personally would like to see a T6 3 pack bundle of KDF secondary race ships, such as the Gorn.
I'd definitely buy a bundle containing a Gorn Baluur Dreadnaught (with science focus), an Orion Warbarge Dreadnaught (with carrier/Eng focus) and a Nausicaan Ravager Dreadnaught (with Tac/drain focus). It would even encourage me to create new chars to fly them - creating more demand for dil, gear, etc.
For the KDF, there's definite STO lore that suggests we need more options. The Gorn, Orions, and Nausicaans need more, and the Letheans need something to [/i]begin[/i] with.
RRF, not so much. It seems we're getting more and more Reman influence in designs, such as the new T6 Scimitars and the Pilot escorts (which were based off of Scimitar concept art, therefore Reman). They're doing a really nice blend there.
As for the Feds, it's going to be Starfleet all the way. I'd expect that the other member worlds have so little demand for new ships for their specific uses (like Vulcan Science Council, Andorian Imperial Guard, Bajoran Militia, etc) that maybe one design gets pumped out every half-century or so, if that. I mean, looking into the lore we see Ezri Dax, a Trill, in charge of the USS Aventine, which at the time was the most advanced ship in the fleet. In STO we see an Andorian captaining the Enterprise. We know Vulcans have and continue to captain ships both on-screen and in lore. So to say that Starfleet itself is a Human-only design is missing a lot - it's a Federation design. There's something to be said for the Federation itself being Human-dominated by values and politics, but for the actual production of starships it's hard to say that a Starfleet ship is a strictly Human ship.
I'd like to see some diversity in crews. There are about as many catians as humans running around, which makes zero sense as they are just from one planet, there should be a larger mixing of the races.
I personally would like to see a T6 3 pack bundle of KDF secondary race ships, such as the Gorn.
I'd definitely buy a bundle containing a Gorn Baluur Dreadnaught (with science focus), an Orion Warbarge Dreadnaught (with carrier/Eng focus) and a Nausicaan Ravager Dreadnaught (with Tac/drain focus). It would even encourage me to create new chars to fly them - creating more demand for dil, gear, etc.
Hehe, all my KDF chars already got to full mastery on the Kolasi.
I personally would like to see a T6 3 pack bundle of KDF secondary race ships, such as the Gorn.
I'd definitely buy a bundle containing a Gorn Baluur Dreadnaught (with science focus), an Orion Warbarge Dreadnaught (with carrier/Eng focus) and a Nausicaan Ravager Dreadnaught (with Tac/drain focus). It would even encourage me to create new chars to fly them - creating more demand for dil, gear, etc.
Hehe, all my KDF chars already got to full mastery on the Kolasi.
I was going to say, Didn't that Naussicans get a T6 ship. I assume that is the Kolasi (I can't remember off the top of my head, obviously :P )
As for the rest. I would love to get a T6 Orion, Gorn, Vulcan, and Andorian ship. Ideally based off of their T5 ships, but whatever. I suspect however it is a rather low priority for Cryptic.
I was going to say, Didn't that Naussicans get a T6 ship. I assume that is the Kolasi (I can't remember off the top of my head, obviously :P )
As for the rest. I would love to get a T6 Orion, Gorn, Vulcan, and Andorian ship. Ideally based off of their T5 ships, but whatever. I suspect however it is a rather low priority for Cryptic.
Yeah, but that was a T6 Guramba. I was referring to a potential playable version of the Nausicaan NPC Dreadnaught (http://sto.gamepedia.com/Ravager_Dreadnought), as part of a themed KDF 3-pack.
That said, it doesn't have to be the Ravager - they could come up with a Lethean or Ferasan design instead, though this might be a bit more work.
Yeah, but that was a T6 Guramba. I was referring to a potential playable version of the Nausicaan NPC Dreadnaught (http://sto.gamepedia.com/Ravager_Dreadnought), as part of a themed KDF 3-pack.
That said, it doesn't have to be the Ravager - they could come up with a Lethean or Ferasan design instead, though this might be a bit more work.
I just don't know that the Naussicans need another T6. Granted everyone has their prefered ship (part of the reason I want a T6 "D'kyr" or "Kumari" is so I can use those skins on a T6 alien ship rather then have to use a whole new ship for T6), but Cryptic has made it clear non-faction specific ships only sell so well. So I can't see them taking the time to make another Naussican ship when other races have ships but no T6 equivalent to fly.
I personally would like to see a T6 3 pack bundle of KDF secondary race ships, such as the Gorn.
I'd definitely buy a bundle containing a Gorn Baluur Dreadnaught (with science focus), an Orion Warbarge Dreadnaught (with carrier/Eng focus) and a Nausicaan Ravager Dreadnaught (with Tac/drain focus). It would even encourage me to create new chars to fly them - creating more demand for dil, gear, etc.
For the KDF, there's definite STO lore that suggests we need more options. The Gorn, Orions, and Nausicaans need more, and the Letheans need something to [/i]begin[/i] with.
My Ferasan would like to have a few words with you two for forgetting his Species. He's sharpened his claws and put on some nice armor for the occasion, even put some blood resistant coating on it.
[quote="gazurtoid;12895749"]I personally would like to see a T6 3 pack bundle of KDF secondary race ships, such as the Gorn.
I'd definitely buy a bundle containing a Gorn Baluur Dreadnaught (with science focus), an Orion Warbarge Dreadnaught (with carrier/Eng focus) and a Nausicaan Ravager Dreadnaught (with Tac/drain focus). It would even encourage me to create new chars to fly them - creating more demand for dil, gear, etc.[/quote]
I imagine Starfleet ships have saucers in honor of Archer's Enterprise, seeing as he was the main guy responsible for the founding of the Federation. Technology-wise, most of the ship components were likely from the other species as humans were less advanced in that area. As for the mostly human crews on the ships we see, that could be a result of each species prefering a different climate. Some ships are crewed by humans and as such would be at Earth temperature, humidity, etc. Ships crewed by Vulcans would likely be too hot for some species, and ships crewed by Andorians would likely be too cold. Some ships might be crewed by species such as the Xindi Aquatics, and as such would be filled with water.
"Bloody explorers, ponce off to Mumbo Jumbo land, come home with a tropical disease, a suntan and a bag of brown lumpy things, and Bob's your uncle, everyone's got a picture of them in the lavatory."
-Edmund Blackadder-
Umm...could it be because every time Cryptic releases any ship the following things occur?
- Someone complains in these forums about how the model is all wrong and quotes some obscure reference as their justification.
- Someone complains because the new ship does not have seven Commander universal BOff stations.
- Someone complains the ship is terrible and not at all like the one that appeared for fifteen seconds onscreen.
That one had a seven/five weapons layout and fifteen console slots. It also came with the Mega Obliviator Console.
- Someone complains about the ship being OP. Because it finishes an STF, dinner, and a Master's degree all at the same time.
In under fifteen seconds.
-Someone complains the T6 version does not come with the Extra Special Cheesy Cheesy Console and how it is a slap in the face to members of the Workers Soviet everywhere that Cryptic "forces" the proletariat to purchase the same ship twice.
Lenin was right. STO really is the opiate of the masses.
And lastly someone complains the new ship is too expensive. "Cryptic should be giving away T6 ships because I have played this game every day religiously since Wozniak and Jobs created the Apple II and I deserve some freebies!"
I think that about covers the flyby.
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Instead of goodies for Fed I'd like to see more goodies and diversity in both species and ships for KDF.
New playable species has been listed as one of the more difficult/intensive (popular) items that could be added the game. Don't ask me why, but there seems to be some technical stuff going on there. I think a much better alternative is just to keep expanding new options for aliens (not a major system and in addition to enabling new "official" species it also adds to novel combinations.)
But...well there's been recent talk of what the devs want to revamp next and the KDF intro is high on the list (Priority One podcast: 263). There's also an incoming revamp of character model presents and Klingon head shape (check art forum).
Maybe not everything we could hope for (fingers crossed about new ships beyond the customary dribbles), but the KDF looks like it's going to get some love in the not too distant future.
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But...well there's been recent talk of what the devs want to revamp next and the KDF intro is high on the list (Priority One podcast: 263).
As I recall, it wasn't the Klingon intro that was getting revamped, only the specific "Fek'Ihri Return" arc.
The intro arc was specifically mentioned in podcast. Could naturally be a mis-speak/mis-recall but there's a few things that could be addressed there too.
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How come all federation ships are human in design? Where are all the Vulcan, Andorian or even Trill ships. I would like to see some diversity from the Federation ship design.
Technically, if we exclude the ST:Enterprise show for the moment, the Federation designs are actually a combination of technology from all the species within the Federation.
If you wanted to include ST:Enterprise, then we could argue that we stuck with our external look, and used the respective technology on the insides. This doesn't quite explain the existence of that future Vulcan ship Archer and T'Pol glimpsed, but then for all we know, that was from a parallel universe.
From a game perspective, it would be nice to have some more Vulcan and Andorian ships though, I wont argue with that. Same can be said for Gorn and Nausicaan too, heck, and Ferasan.
If the playerbase can show pwe/cryptic making and selling ships from the specific member races of the Federation is profitable, then they will probably free up the man hours to do so. At the end of the day they have to show a sustainable profit to do so.
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If the playerbase can show pwe/cryptic making and selling ships from the specific member races of the Federation is profitable, then they will probably free up the man hours to do so. At the end of the day they have to show a sustainable profit to do so.
How would you propose they/we do that?
Aside from Cryptic observing the number of Andorian/Vulcan characters...
How come all federation ships are human in design? Where are all the Vulcan, Andorian or even Trill ships. I would like to see some diversity from the Federation ship design.
federation ships have technologies integrated from other races.
the ship design is mostly human based, the tractor beams are vulcan and i would imagine the warp drive is vulcan and has perhaps even with some andorian techniques considering starfleet tech at the time, the shields are andorian and who knows what other races have added to these ship designs to make them more durable, however all these eventually become federation own technology after evolutions of devices are made.
T6 Miranda Hero Ship FTW. Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
I'm still putting together the details for an "Allies T6 Science Cross Faction Bundle" including a T6 Vulcan Science Vessel (Federation of Planets), a T6 Gorn Science Vessel (Klingon Empire), and a T6 Suliban Science Vessel (Romulan Republic).
The Romulan Story gives good precedent for bringing in the Suliban as their "wiz kids" race.
considering klingon and romulan tech in 2411 are more thin nacelles, more elegant and refined shapes, i wouldnt be surprised if and when the rr and kdf joined the feds that the ent-j was based around new technological additions from the klingons and romulans. a symbol of the new future until old romulan and klingon technologies were phased out of existience. of course these new federation ships have a hell of a kick to them, battle cloaks, weapons power and ability far beyond anything from 2411 due to the mating of technologies. klingons are more belligerently armed and their ships reflect this with little regard for survive-ability, in addition if nadion and disruptor energies were formed and had the plasma like effect from romulan plasma weapons, they could prove hard to stop in combat.
the federation will get their diversity in the future, that much is certain so long as cryptic hold true to the alliance.
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"attacking the federation"
He never says the whole intro.
Alright then, so rather than an entire KDF intro arc revamp we have the latter part of the KDF-exclusive mission series (which collectively is the faction intro BTW, at least according to my view of early game content) specifically referred to.
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thats the problem with podcasts, never written in stone, so you have no idea what is true and what isnt.
That's generally why devs don't talk much about upcoming content. There's a lot of stuff they want to do in future but even up until the last minute those plans are possibly subject to any amount of change. There was some time, for example, set for a new foundry feature but that got pushed back for the sake of the upcoming work on the UI.
Until it makes it to the game there's really no solid truth in game design. It's just intention and desire.
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I'd definitely buy a bundle containing a Gorn Baluur Dreadnaught (with science focus), an Orion Warbarge Dreadnaught (with carrier/Eng focus) and a Nausicaan Ravager Dreadnaught (with Tac/drain focus). It would even encourage me to create new chars to fly them - creating more demand for dil, gear, etc.
I am 100% behind this idea.
RRF, not so much. It seems we're getting more and more Reman influence in designs, such as the new T6 Scimitars and the Pilot escorts (which were based off of Scimitar concept art, therefore Reman). They're doing a really nice blend there.
As for the Feds, it's going to be Starfleet all the way. I'd expect that the other member worlds have so little demand for new ships for their specific uses (like Vulcan Science Council, Andorian Imperial Guard, Bajoran Militia, etc) that maybe one design gets pumped out every half-century or so, if that. I mean, looking into the lore we see Ezri Dax, a Trill, in charge of the USS Aventine, which at the time was the most advanced ship in the fleet. In STO we see an Andorian captaining the Enterprise. We know Vulcans have and continue to captain ships both on-screen and in lore. So to say that Starfleet itself is a Human-only design is missing a lot - it's a Federation design. There's something to be said for the Federation itself being Human-dominated by values and politics, but for the actual production of starships it's hard to say that a Starfleet ship is a strictly Human ship.
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I was going to say, Didn't that Naussicans get a T6 ship. I assume that is the Kolasi (I can't remember off the top of my head, obviously :P )
As for the rest. I would love to get a T6 Orion, Gorn, Vulcan, and Andorian ship. Ideally based off of their T5 ships, but whatever. I suspect however it is a rather low priority for Cryptic.
Yeah, but that was a T6 Guramba. I was referring to a potential playable version of the Nausicaan NPC Dreadnaught (http://sto.gamepedia.com/Ravager_Dreadnought), as part of a themed KDF 3-pack.
That said, it doesn't have to be the Ravager - they could come up with a Lethean or Ferasan design instead, though this might be a bit more work.
I just don't know that the Naussicans need another T6. Granted everyone has their prefered ship (part of the reason I want a T6 "D'kyr" or "Kumari" is so I can use those skins on a T6 alien ship rather then have to use a whole new ship for T6), but Cryptic has made it clear non-faction specific ships only sell so well. So I can't see them taking the time to make another Naussican ship when other races have ships but no T6 equivalent to fly.
My Ferasan would like to have a few words with you two for forgetting his Species. He's sharpened his claws and put on some nice armor for the occasion, even put some blood resistant coating on it.
I'd definitely buy a bundle containing a Gorn Baluur Dreadnaught (with science focus), an Orion Warbarge Dreadnaught (with carrier/Eng focus) and a Nausicaan Ravager Dreadnaught (with Tac/drain focus). It would even encourage me to create new chars to fly them - creating more demand for dil, gear, etc.[/quote]
YES!!
-Edmund Blackadder-
- Someone complains in these forums about how the model is all wrong and quotes some obscure reference as their justification.
- Someone complains because the new ship does not have seven Commander universal BOff stations.
- Someone complains the ship is terrible and not at all like the one that appeared for fifteen seconds onscreen.
That one had a seven/five weapons layout and fifteen console slots. It also came with the Mega Obliviator Console.
- Someone complains about the ship being OP. Because it finishes an STF, dinner, and a Master's degree all at the same time.
In under fifteen seconds.
-Someone complains the T6 version does not come with the Extra Special Cheesy Cheesy Console and how it is a slap in the face to members of the Workers Soviet everywhere that Cryptic "forces" the proletariat to purchase the same ship twice.
Lenin was right. STO really is the opiate of the masses.
And lastly someone complains the new ship is too expensive. "Cryptic should be giving away T6 ships because I have played this game every day religiously since Wozniak and Jobs created the Apple II and I deserve some freebies!"
I think that about covers the flyby.
Side note: Starfleet Dental members. Certified Wedding Planner? Rapid Response Lightening Team? Just when I think I've seen nearly everything you guys can do or say in game or here, you move once more in a thoroughly strange and very funny direction. Thanks for the laughs, SFD. I really do appreciate your ability to make me chuckle when I don't feel like it.
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Sure, you can get more KDF stuff once they're a part of the Federation xD
New playable species has been listed as one of the more difficult/intensive (popular) items that could be added the game. Don't ask me why, but there seems to be some technical stuff going on there. I think a much better alternative is just to keep expanding new options for aliens (not a major system and in addition to enabling new "official" species it also adds to novel combinations.)
But...well there's been recent talk of what the devs want to revamp next and the KDF intro is high on the list (Priority One podcast: 263). There's also an incoming revamp of character model presents and Klingon head shape (check art forum).
Maybe not everything we could hope for (fingers crossed about new ships beyond the customary dribbles), but the KDF looks like it's going to get some love in the not too distant future.
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The intro arc was specifically mentioned in podcast. Could naturally be a mis-speak/mis-recall but there's a few things that could be addressed there too.
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If you wanted to include ST:Enterprise, then we could argue that we stuck with our external look, and used the respective technology on the insides. This doesn't quite explain the existence of that future Vulcan ship Archer and T'Pol glimpsed, but then for all we know, that was from a parallel universe.
From a game perspective, it would be nice to have some more Vulcan and Andorian ships though, I wont argue with that. Same can be said for Gorn and Nausicaan too, heck, and Ferasan.
Aside from Cryptic observing the number of Andorian/Vulcan characters...
federation ships have technologies integrated from other races.
the ship design is mostly human based, the tractor beams are vulcan and i would imagine the warp drive is vulcan and has perhaps even with some andorian techniques considering starfleet tech at the time, the shields are andorian and who knows what other races have added to these ship designs to make them more durable, however all these eventually become federation own technology after evolutions of devices are made.
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The Romulan Story gives good precedent for bringing in the Suliban as their "wiz kids" race.
the federation will get their diversity in the future, that much is certain so long as cryptic hold true to the alliance.
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Alright then, so rather than an entire KDF intro arc revamp we have the latter part of the KDF-exclusive mission series (which collectively is the faction intro BTW, at least according to my view of early game content) specifically referred to.
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That's generally why devs don't talk much about upcoming content. There's a lot of stuff they want to do in future but even up until the last minute those plans are possibly subject to any amount of change. There was some time, for example, set for a new foundry feature but that got pushed back for the sake of the upcoming work on the UI.
Until it makes it to the game there's really no solid truth in game design. It's just intention and desire.
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