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deokkent
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These dps guys were too hardcore about STO, and now they know too much and now they're bored as hell rofl. Should have been casual.
https://youtu.be/m11OQolftO8?t=5m19s
The joke is on you :P. DPS is not the way to go guys
. Just play for fun and space barbie. Numbers will just make you apathetic bahahaha.
Anyways, the PvPers are gone. And that was good. I think when the DPSers finally leave, STO will be perfect.
https://youtu.be/m11OQolftO8?t=5m19sThe joke is on you :P. DPS is not the way to go guys
. Just play for fun and space barbie. Numbers will just make you apathetic bahahaha.Anyways, the PvPers are gone. And that was good. I think when the DPSers finally leave, STO will be perfect.
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This was hilarious and epic on so many levels!
Or disabling weapons or removing FAW buffs of off tac cubes. --> Less reciprocity --> less cooldown reduction for tac boff powers
Or drawing aggro by whatever means. Saw someone mention in a DPS channel how you're 'not contributing anything by tanking' because of its detrimental effect on Reciprocity.
Didn't watch the video, but what's wrong with PvP'ers and why should we be happy that they left? A large part of the DPS crowd are just good copy-cats, at least PvP requires some skill and other things beside just reaching the highest numbers possible.
That never made sense to me. PvP'ers are a minority, there are no PvP'ers in the game anymore and more of such arguments? While at the same time you claim that they are responsible for nerfs?
Sorry, but that has always sounded like BS to me. The contradictory logic of such statements make it difficult to take such accusations serious.
Besides, balance is needed for PvE. If something overperforms in PvP, it'll most likely also do so in PvE. It's even likely that it overperforms even more in PvE since NPC's use less counter-abilities.
Ergo: if PvP'ers ask for nerfs, this would actually benefit PvE as well. Perhaps even more so.
If you think the game is unbalanced, that's far more likely to be a result of catering to PvE'ers who want everything to be easy and predictable, thus making it necessary to simply add huge resistances, hit points and such to enemies. or making specific abilities like shields drain ridiculously powerful to add at least a bit of opposition.
The game is not unbalanced because some PvP'ers might have asked for correcting certain overperforming stuff in the past. It's because the average PvE'ers would take their torches and pitchforks to the Forum if they truly tried to balance things, like correcting stuff like FAW, stacking of debuffs from attack patterns and such.
Yeah i agree. The only way i can even stomach this game is to play it solo. Even the fleets are "hey whats your dps". I actually like using my different powers that i put points in. I've upgraded my weapons and tac consoles to mk 13 and 14 and that seems like to much. I will never understand finishing up a Que or mission in less than a minute. It would bore the freaking TRIBBLE out of me.
Upgrading stuff to the highest level is actually not a bad idea. If you want your missions to last a bit longer, you can always try things like increasing defences (transferring more power to shields instead of weapons for example) or simply don't fire all your weapons.
It's always nice to be able to throw out more damage in emergencies though, especially if you PuG your missions. No need to be done in less than 2 or 3 minutes, but it would of course be nice if you can, eventually, guarantee that you'll be able to finish the mission
lol I'm not being religious about anything. It just irks me when people keep blaming PvP'ers for everything that happens to them in-game. While stating that there are no PvP'ers.
I don't even PvP myself, only some friendly matches with my fleet mates now and then, but the comments on here about PvP'ers and how it's a good thing they left... doesn't make much sense to me.
Also, what do you mean by 'go outside'? I've been on Risa all day long xD
Or, summarised: PvP is good for having fun
If you don't take it too serious. I'll have to agree with @deokkent to a certain extent that some people take the game too serious...
So, you're saying that the game should be tailored to you and you alone then? Like you're just so important that anyone gives a rats TRIBBLE about your worthless opinion?
I'm not a 'DPS'er' per say.. I do good damage, but I'm not in the DPS league and I don't normally run with them. Still, those guys have done more to try and help players then a worthless idiot like you ever have. They make tutorial videos, put up videos, answer questions in chat an on the forums, and generally try their best to pass knowledge on to any who want it. And then you have people like you, people who flat out suck, people who are simply too stupid to grasp the basic concepts of the game. Instead of trying to learn the game, it's easier for you to just be a douche and blame DPS people for 'ruining the game.' You have so little knowledge and so little skill that you just assume that all the better players do is 'press space bar' over and over again.
If you don't like what they do, then stay away from them. They're doing NOTHING to ruin the game for you, neither are PVP players. Get over yourself, and get your head out of your TRIBBLE. You're not the gold standard, you're not the person that the game should be tailored to please. The only purpose of this ridiculous thread is for you to take shots at anyone that doesn't play the game the way YOU want them to play. You're doing the exact thing you're accusing DPS people of doing.
You're a troll, a hypocrite and a moron. I'm sick and tired of people like you who think everyone has to play a certain way. Play the game your way, have fun and let others do the same. And while you're at it, learn to keep your stupid mouth shut.
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You seem to be making far more assumptions than is healthy. How do you know that the person you so soundly insulted doesn't offer help? I'm not a DPSer, at all. In fact, I hate PvP and everything about it, partially because I don't like the competitive nature. I'm here to play a game, not see who has a bigger wand. Now, before you go off half-cocked at me, too, let me elaborate. DPSer's aren't the only one making videos, offering advice, and answering questions. As most of us know, the PvPers are a small minority in the game. Thus, it goes to reason that most of the videos and advice would come from people here to play the game, no?
I feel like you woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning, which is why I'm not going to offer you a taste of your own medicine. Do it again, and I'll suggest to the OP that they make a new thread before this one gets locked because of you.
I hope your day gets better, friend.
Edit: And about PvE becoming unbalanced, yeah I'm pretty sure the unbalanced part is NPCs not being able to use abilities like heals while they are obliterated by players using many different abilities.
Everyone has their preferences
Some people just like to bash on other players for their preferences... Like the OP bashing on PvPers...
Honestly, replaying to such comments just keeps the flames burning a nice hot red...
And I'm my case.... I neutral in both the pve/p war....
There are many inconsistency about what you're saying. Not that I really blame you. But for one if this whole game is intended for casual/new players and PvP or DPS shouldn't be allowed then why do we have quests catered for PvP'ers? Why do we even have Queues that are PvP oriented then? Why the heck did they even allowed customization in the 1st place?
I do not know where you got that idea but I can sure use the link where you got that and generally read it for myself.
There are also factors that affect PvP and PvE that may not go well with each other. I know some guys on my fleet who has high DPS using AP's yet suck hard on PvP. The mechanics are different and you can only use a fraction of what you can do on PvE in PvP. In fact if you're going to blame anyone for nerfs most of the time blame those who are PvE oriented that thinks just because they have high DPS they should kick the hell out of PvP. Then realizing that what they do on PvE doesn't matter on PvP. Your Spacebar bind doesn't hold any sense on PvP.
When did the last time the Devs even listened to PvP players anyway? They keep focusing on PvE that it's like PvP is not even part of the game anymore so why in the world would you blame PvP players?
The ironic thing is DPS'ers are mostly PvE players. Without a Good PvP their only outlet of any challenge and satisfaction is the challenge of having the Highest Damage. Sure there are snobs out there and pretenders but one cannot blame those descent DPS'ers for trying to have fun in their own way as much as you the way you want to. Most even share their knowledge and it's up to you to follow them or not.
The thing though that I think are the problems here are those who just copy paste from DPS'ers who are mostly cocky and arrogant, People who can't achieve the same thing as the DPS'ers or PvPer's because of things like: I can't have this kind of items or plainly don't want anything to strive for and can only be satisfied by instant things and using the term "I'm a casual" or "New Player" as an excuse to justify their cause.
Well I'm casual. I'm not a big fan of DPS'ers. Not a big fan of PvP either most specially ground. Yet I do not have much problem with those 2 kinds of players. Sure some are annoying when they try to keep bugging you to play PvP with you or there are some annoying people who blames the team just because they fail a queue but those people are just plain jerks. But news for you: Every damn MMORPG has these kinds of people.
The game is kinda boring end level. If you say you should just make new characters and finish quests and go all space barbie then isn't that just like what the DPS'ers, the Good ones, are already doing? Epic gear are end contents and most people of real DPS'ers (The good ones) have already or might have already exhausted the game content that they have nothing more left to do. Hence they try challenging themselves. And this kind of thing is very common to a Single player game. Which some how this game ends up because the lack of PvP content.
For crying out loud. This is a MMO not a single player game. The most successful games out right now are PvP oriented. A good well balanced PvP. Being an MMORPG or if you would like to call it just an RPG also means you need to grind for items, levels and skills. It's not like COD or any FPS games where you get in and start blasting things much faster.
PvP and DPS isn't everyone's cup of tea. Some just don't like to lose hence they stay away from PvP or maybe there is an imbalance that they think of, but in the end the same thing stands. They just don't want to lose. I mean who does? But what separates people is the fact that those who can go back-up and keep on standing and those who don't and give-up. Same goes for DPS. Nothing that is made by a human would be 100% absolutely fair. Games or our own society. But how one reacts to these kinds of things shows a glimpse of a person's character.
Do not blame the whole DPS'ers for what some of them do or say. Nor Blame PvP players for the same thing or even the nerfs. Because as I said when did the Devs actually listened to PvP players? It's always the PvE content they are focusing on and making it easy to a point of boredom. We humans are naturally competitive. Heck if we aren't then why are anyone so bothered by people who likes PvP and lose to them or Grief about DPS'ers even though not everyone of them are bad.
As last note to you though, I do not blame you for your opinion or your outlook on things. You have your reasons and your points may justify what you perceive on this game. But blaming things on a set of people who just because have a different way of trying to have fun is just like being that other person who blames his/her team for not having that high DPS and thus fail a queue. And like I said there are DPS'er wanna be there who are absolute jerks and PvP players who are very annoying but we really can't blame all of them.
Only a 'meltdown' if you assume I was enraged when typing it.. I'm not.
Yes, the game is made for casual and new players.. and that's fine. But what you don't realize is that what the DPS league does in their own channel and in their own private que runs doesn't effect these players in the least. Your initial post says outright that you want anyone that does PVP or anyone that's in the DPS league to quit the game. You're not talking about inclusion here, you're doing the exact opposite. The entire point of your thread is that people who don't play the game 'your way' should quit. Do I find that insulting? Yes.. I do, as should anyone that plays this game.
The only one not looking at things 'objectively' is you. My issue with you is your complete lack of objectivity. You are advocating for the removal of anyone that plays differently then you even though it's clear that you don't even understand how these people even play to begin with. These players aren't hurting you in any way, in fact, these people often help new players like they helped me when I started. I don't parse or chase DPS (anymore) but when I was new and wanted to improve, the DPS league was very helpful for me as they were for many others.
I don't PvP either, and while I once thought it should be removed, I later realized that wasn't the answer either. Division of PvP and PvE is a good solution, but that's another topic for another thread. The answer was never to make the PvP players 'go away.' Things like that only serve to hurt the game.
You need to learn to play your way and let others do the same. If Rainbow Boats are fun for you.. great. If you want to build ships in the cannon style of the TV shows.. great. If you want to PvP or chase top DPS.. fine.. if it's fun for you, then do it. As long as you're not stepping on others that play differently, then you're not hurting anything. The game is made up of all types of different players, and you need to get off your high horse and stop thinking that your way is the 'right way.'
You're not special and no one is interested in making the game conform to your personal standards.
Yeah gee well I am so glad PVP is DEAD! The PVP faction whined about Neu torps and out came the nerf hammer. Yeah PVPers are nothing but cry babies that want all the toys just fro themselves and god help someone beats them they satrt crying whaa whaa that gears OPed I got beat whaa whaaa. Besides that nerfing that carries over into PVE from PVP is NEVER a good thing. STO is one of the few games that doesn't have dedicated PVP gear which by all rights should be in the game so any nerfing thanks to PVP babies is going to negativly effect PVE due to the omission of PVP only gear.