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Still no Krenim consoles for a Krenim ship...
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I just checked the release notes of yet another update, but still the issue with the event Krenim ship not taking the consoles that say they can be equipped on ANY Krenim vessel still won't slot.
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This has been an ongoing issue for a little over a month now and there's been no official word on whether it's intended or not or if the dev team is aware of the issue at all.
Does it really matter?
Did the dev blog say it could?
Did you check the forum thread about the dev blog that talked about the ship?
2. No, the dev blog did not state that the Krenim Science Vessel could use these consoles.
3. Yes, and there was no official response from any developers about whether its intended or not. Just a bunch of speculation.
This certainly is not a major issue, but to me it just seems like an odd oversight. Making these consoles compatible with the Krenim Science Vessel would not be game-breaking, and it would add a layer of synergy for those that have all of them on a character.
1.) Yes, of course it matters. The console descriptions say "Any Krenim, Zahl, or Nihydron Starship".
2.) Yes, the Year of Hell stats page, with the stats for the ships that came from the lockbox, says
A Krenim Science Vessel is definitely a "coalition starship" because it is Krenim, which is part of the stated coalition!
3.) I don't think that should matter, either the consoles have to have their descriptions changed, or the consoles have to have their functionality changed to be consistent.
But it's not a ship created for the coalition. Think about like the Yorktown. It was built in the Andorian shipyards but it's not an andorian ship. The coalition ships was built for the coalition fleet while the Krenim science ship was built for what I'm guessing the Delta Alliance. Also I was talking about the dev blog for the Krenim Science Ship, not the lockbox.
I suspect it is not intended that the event ship has access to sets from lockbox ships because everyone could get the event ship, but not everyone will have the lockbox ships. Of course, it would be an "interesting" additional way to advertise them. But it could also be a way to say: "Haha, Your free event ship could use this cool consoles if you just had spend a ton of money on this game, welcome to STO, F2P second class citizen!" But that wouldn't be Cryptic's typical MO, so they'd rather stick with the free event ship to remain free to use, without making anyone feel like they need to spend money (or hefty in-game resources in some way) to acquire special consoles from lockbox, lobi or promo ships.
You know, somewhere there should be a definitive list of consoles that aren't working the way they're supposed to, so people can check on whether they want to pursue them or not. E.g., some features of the console from the Temporal Dreadnought still don't work (like the turn rate bonus). The console from the Delta Flight FE doesn't work unless you re-equip it after every map transition. These consoles don't work in a ship that they may or may not be intended to work in. Etc.
The thing is...why when the pack ship is considered Krenim, would the event ship not be?
Probably because it is a Temporal Science Dreadnaught.
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Wait, seriously? Like half my ships use that thing. Thanks for the heads up!
Support 90 degree arc limitation on BFaW! Save our ships from looking like flying disco balls of dumb!
That's kind of the Annorax's "special thing" — it can use any console labeled for temporal starships, and the coalition consoles. Plus it has its own temporal console. You could basically completely load the Annorax down with crazy temporal consoles in every slot, if you wanted to.
I BELIEVE that it's the ship in the game that can use the most consoles...of all time.
That it can and if the event ship was added it to the list it would be even more consoles it can use
Also, the Annorax can already equip the console from the Krenim Science Vessel because the KSV's console can be equipped on any ship, so your statement above is kinda pointless. We're not talking about adding a new set bonus, so I don't know where that came from either. And by "a lot" you really are only talking about two consoles: The Zahl Heavy Cruiser's console and the Krenim Warship's console. The Annorax has a standalone console that can only be used on the Annorax, and while the Annorax can equip the consoles from other Temporal-type ships, those are part of a completely different console set.
What we're talking about is the inability to equip the Zahl Heavy Cruiser and Krenim Warship's consoles on the Krenim Science Vessel, despite them being listed as equippable on "Any Krenim, Zahl, or Nihydron Ship". The Annorax is not the ship in question, so I'm puzzled as to how it even came up in this thread.
I did make a mistake there, forgot the Krenim Science Ship's console can be used on any ship but this does bring up a point I would like to talk about. The set that everyone seen to think should be usable by said science ship.
Coalition Timeline Manipulation set, as I have stated earlier the Krenim Science Ship was created by the Krenim but as part of the Coalition fleet. So while yes Cryptic may have chosen a poor choice of words talking about the console set I rather see those words corrected rather an awful precedent created.
Slightly off topic, why does this seem to be something worth fighting for when there is such a number of ships based around Iconian tech that can't use each other's consoles. Just something odd I see.
Edited, I'm sorry but @borticuscryptic I kind of need to summon you. I'm sorry and this is the first time I ever really tried to go out of my way to talk to a dev first. You seem like a pretty cool guy and I do know you seem hang out on the forums a lot so I think you would be the best choice, odds are I should go through Trendy, she is the CM and this seem to fall more under her job. Could we finally get a calling on this? I think it is just a tooltip mistake that needs fixing but based off the tone some people are using it looks like this is some kind of "big deal" or they want to try to make it one.
Keep submitting Bug Reports until they acknowledge it one way or a another, ie. that it is a problem or that they really didn't mean what they said.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'