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grazyc2#7847 grazyc2 Member Posts: 1,988 Arc User
Cm on cryptic my TOS captain in a 2410 setting great euh not... Is it possible to create something where you can choose an era setting you like to play ? Even would to pay for it if necessary. But I just love my TOS Fed char I wish I could choose the era where I play this case it would be the TOS era off course .... Is this even possible to create ?
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    daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    edited February 2016
    Oh dear Lord... PLEASE even I'm becoming annoyed by these threads.

    Though, actually your Thread Title is misleading...

    You apparently are seeking a Server which is 'TOS Only' oriented (not just a T6 Connie).
    While I praise that thought (and have talked about just such a thing in the past here), it would essentially mean that Cryptic/PWE would have to create a whole new game with new servers in order to accommodate such a request.

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    nickcastletonnickcastleton Member Posts: 1,212 Arc User
    is it my imagination or do we got one of these every time cryptic release a new ship?
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    gawainviiigawainviii Member Posts: 328 Arc User
    I know Cryptic/PWE has repeatedly said to not end-game Connies, but... I'd settle for a bridge/interior with the TOS layout & 2410 graphics.

    Built one in Foundry once just to visualize what it might look like, but never could incorporate it into a mission.
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    warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    is it my imagination or do we got one of these every time cryptic release a new ship?

    Why not? A Constitution-class ship carried the torch for this franchise as THE ship for it's first 20 years before even TNG was a dream in Gene Rodenberry's head.

    But hey, we got endgame ENT era ships all around which predate the Constitution-class... Hell, they predate the FEDERATION, we got playable Species 8472 BIOSHIPS, we got other non-faction ships as playable ships.

    But the notion of the original hero-ship class being playable at endgame?

    ABSURD!
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    grazyc2#7847 grazyc2 Member Posts: 1,988 Arc User
    Never saw this tread before, but then again I own a FED TOS char he can't get past T5 because there is no T6 version... Let alone a T5-U version....
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    dareaudareau Member Posts: 2,390 Arc User
    is it my imagination or do we got one of these every time cryptic release a new ship?

    Why not? A Constitution-class ship carried the torch for this franchise as THE ship for it's first 20 years before even TNG was a dream in Gene Rodenberry's head.

    But hey, we got endgame ENT era ships all around which predate the Constitution-class... Hell, they predate the FEDERATION, we got playable Species 8472 BIOSHIPS, we got other non-faction ships as playable ships.

    But the notion of the original hero-ship class being playable at endgame?

    ABSURD!

    Whatever we may think of it (and trust me, I'm firmly in the same camp as you), CBS, aka "the rights holder", "the final arbiter of what can and can't be included", etc. etc., has said "no endgame Connie" at some point or another.

    As I like to point out, while the answer was, and still seems to be, no - there is the infamous sliver of hope that was left by a previous EP and stored in the FCT thread for posterity...

    While all your points are valid, the most reasonable rationale for this exclusion is that CBS feels it "unfair" that the Enterprise-no-bloddy-letter or Enterprise-A should not be able to stand up toe-to-toe with the Enterprise-E or -F in an "epic cruiser battle".

    Which is why I've advocated that a potential T5 Connie (or T6, or tier whatever) should be reclassified as a science ship, so that the only way a Connie > Oddessy is through the liberal application of "space magic"... :)

    At this point, one could also release the NX-01 variant as a skin for the Akira-class "escort" T5/T6s, and we'd have all the iconics in-game at endgame...
    Detecting big-time "anti-old-school" bias here. NX? Lobi. TOS/TMP Connie? Super-promotion-box. (aka the two hardest ways to get ships) Excelsior & all 3 TNG "big hero" ships? C-Store. Please Equalize...

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    gaevsmangaevsman Member Posts: 3,190 Arc User
    Arghh... for years, 6?, the same question again and again.. CBS said no.. and i agree too... see ya!
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    nickcastletonnickcastleton Member Posts: 1,212 Arc User
    is it my imagination or do we got one of these every time cryptic release a new ship?

    Why not? A Constitution-class ship carried the torch for this franchise as THE ship for it's first 20 years before even TNG was a dream in Gene Rodenberry's head.

    But hey, we got endgame ENT era ships all around which predate the Constitution-class... Hell, they predate the FEDERATION, we got playable Species 8472 BIOSHIPS, we got other non-faction ships as playable ships.

    But the notion of the original hero-ship class being playable at endgame?

    ABSURD!
    because we have been told no, and all the pleading on the forums wont change that otherwise we would have had one ages ago.
    i could understand if this had never been answered but they have said time and again that it wont happen so let it go.
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    tousseautousseau Member Posts: 1,484 Arc User
    But... the stars are in perfect alignment for it...

    A T6 Connie on the 6th Anniversary if the game
    - AND -
    It's the 50th Anniversary of the franchise.

    Just, how more perfect can that be? Hmmm?
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    seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,918 Arc User
    kirk2390 wrote: »
    Never saw this tread before,

    Complete and total B.S.

    There is no way that someone that spends as much time as you do on the forums isn't familiar with this thread and the rules against it.

    There is absolutely no way that someone with over 1700 posts has never seen a 'T6 Connie' thread.

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    eltecheltech Member Posts: 146 Arc User
    My own view is, CBS has said no to the T6 Connie, because if they did release it, everyone would buy it, and never buy another ship, ever again. :p​​
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    misterlozmisterloz Member Posts: 133 Arc User
    It's Monday and there's a T6 Connie thread. Who had that on the sweepstakes? Anyone?
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    warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    is it my imagination or do we got one of these every time cryptic release a new ship?

    Why not? A Constitution-class ship carried the torch for this franchise as THE ship for it's first 20 years before even TNG was a dream in Gene Rodenberry's head.

    But hey, we got endgame ENT era ships all around which predate the Constitution-class... Hell, they predate the FEDERATION, we got playable Species 8472 BIOSHIPS, we got other non-faction ships as playable ships.

    But the notion of the original hero-ship class being playable at endgame?

    ABSURD!
    because we have been told no, and all the pleading on the forums wont change that otherwise we would have had one ages ago.
    i could understand if this had never been answered but they have said time and again that it wont happen so let it go.

    Hell no it shouldn't be let go.

    Look how stupid the current ship lineup can be in what they do and don't allow. You have Ancient ENT-era ships in the varying factions that predate the Federation, and they're playable at endgame but not the Constitution. You have playable Non-Faction ships, to include most ridiculously Playable Species 8472 BIOSHIPS, on top of Herald, Dominion, Breen, etc. ships, but not the Constitution at endgame. The KDF happily flies the D-7 / K'T'Inga, yet it's counterpart the Constitution-class is nowhere to be found endgame.

    You have a playable Kazon ship at endgame, THE KAZON, FFS... but NOT the original hero ship class of Star Trek, the Constitution-class.
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    trejgontrejgon Member Posts: 323 Arc User
    is it my imagination or do we got one of these every time cryptic release a new ship?

    Why not? A Constitution-class ship carried the torch for this franchise as THE ship for it's first 20 years before even TNG was a dream in Gene Rodenberry's head.

    But hey, we got endgame ENT era ships all around which predate the Constitution-class... Hell, they predate the FEDERATION, we got playable Species 8472 BIOSHIPS, we got other non-faction ships as playable ships.

    But the notion of the original hero-ship class being playable at endgame?

    ABSURD!
    because we have been told no, and all the pleading on the forums wont change that otherwise we would have had one ages ago.
    i could understand if this had never been answered but they have said time and again that it wont happen so let it go.

    Hell no it shouldn't be let go.

    Look how stupid the current ship lineup can be in what they do and don't allow. You have Ancient ENT-era ships in the varying factions that predate the Federation, and they're playable at endgame but not the Constitution. You have playable Non-Faction ships, to include most ridiculously Playable Species 8472 BIOSHIPS, on top of Herald, Dominion, Breen, etc. ships, but not the Constitution at endgame. The KDF happily flies the D-7 / K'T'Inga, yet it's counterpart the Constitution-class is nowhere to be found endgame.

    You have a playable Kazon ship at endgame, THE KAZON, FFS... but NOT the original hero ship class of Star Trek, the Constitution-class.

    Care to list those endgame ships that predates federation itself?
    You know everyone can throw around empty words like this but I haven't seen any playable ship that'd made even to T5-U that could predate federation...
    [no light escort NX-01 is not an endgame ship....]
    [don;t take me wrong It's not an assault, but you are throwing that statement at left and right and you just made me curious which ships could you be refering to]

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    comrademococomrademoco Member Posts: 1,694 Bug Hunter
    edited March 2016
    F.C.T
    End Game Constitution Class ship
    The answer to the T5 connie ship has been a no for 4 years and that answer comes from CBS. As such, there will not be a T5 constitution class ship in STO. This also means that any version of the ship will not be available as an End game ship. Exert from a Q&A with DStahl & from the livestream by Smirk -

    Q: (thmichael) Are you going to implement the Ambassador Class at some point? And would it be possible to implement the Old Constitution Class for higher ranks?

    Dstahl: Yes. The Ambassador class is coming in 2013. CBS is still pretty adamant about the Old Connie not being an end game ship, but you never know what can happen as time rolls by.

    pwecaptainsmirk wrote: »

    A: I personally think it is more of a forum issue right now because there are so many threads that pop up. Not going to come into the game I think ever! The T5 Connie, it was something that used to drive Branflakes insane, he would make me delete those threads, hide them. It doesn’t bother me that much. I would love something along the lines of like the Exeter class. I would love to have a traditional Connie with a 1960’s kind of bussard collector on the nacelles, something that is really big and powerful, like if you gave the regular constitution class a "grow mushroom" from Mario Bros and it just got big and super OP. I would love that but it’s not going to happen. There will not be a T5 Connie.


    But one can only wish, right!?

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    dareaudareau Member Posts: 2,390 Arc User
    trejgon wrote: »
    Care to list those endgame ships that predates federation itself?
    You know everyone can throw around empty words like this but I haven't seen any playable ship that'd made even to T5-U that could predate federation...
    [no light escort NX-01 is not an endgame ship....]
    [don;t take me wrong It's not an assault, but you are throwing that statement at left and right and you just made me curious which ships could you be refering to]

    If you go by "canon" timeline, anything from ENT era "predates" TOS and therefore the Federation, and right off the top of my head the Kumari and D'Kyr both can be T5Ued, and the T'Varo skin can be applied to a full on T6.
    Detecting big-time "anti-old-school" bias here. NX? Lobi. TOS/TMP Connie? Super-promotion-box. (aka the two hardest ways to get ships) Excelsior & all 3 TNG "big hero" ships? C-Store. Please Equalize...

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    trejgontrejgon Member Posts: 323 Arc User
    edited March 2016
    dareau wrote: »
    trejgon wrote: »
    Care to list those endgame ships that predates federation itself?
    You know everyone can throw around empty words like this but I haven't seen any playable ship that'd made even to T5-U that could predate federation...
    [no light escort NX-01 is not an endgame ship....]
    [don;t take me wrong It's not an assault, but you are throwing that statement at left and right and you just made me curious which ships could you be refering to]

    If you go by "canon" timeline, anything from ENT era "predates" TOS and therefore the Federation, and right off the top of my head the Kumari and D'Kyr both can be T5Ued, and the T'Varo skin can be applied to a full on T6.

    Kumari were designs from ENT? good to know :P
    [same for D'Kyr]

    which T6 warbird can use skins from T'Varo? O.o

    EDIT: major typo fixed

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    daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    misterloz wrote: »
    It's Monday and there's a T6 Connie thread. Who had that on the sweepstakes? Anyone?
    Which was actually started on FEBRUARY 12th...
    Where you been Willis??

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    daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    coldnapalm wrote: »
    Seriously, how is this thread still open?!?

    Long-shot... There's a distinct possibility that some type of Classic TOS Connie IS going to show up in the next 6 to 7 months?

    Short-shot... It's better to let one thread languish and die than having new ones show up every week?
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    trejgontrejgon Member Posts: 323 Arc User
    daveyny wrote: »
    misterloz wrote: »
    It's Monday and there's a T6 Connie thread. Who had that on the sweepstakes? Anyone?
    Which was actually started on FEBRUARY 12th...
    Where you been Willis??

    B)

    I'd guess that there have to be someone who'll jump in a moment claiming this thread being still open as a proof that PWE does not read feedback forums :P

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    daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    trejgon wrote: »
    daveyny wrote: »
    misterloz wrote: »
    It's Monday and there's a T6 Connie thread. Who had that on the sweepstakes? Anyone?
    Which was actually started on FEBRUARY 12th...
    Where you been Willis??

    B)

    I'd guess that there have to be someone who'll jump in a moment claiming this thread being still open as a proof that PWE does not read feedback forums :P

    ... or They read them and mostly don't care...

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    (which I don't really believe)

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    warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    edited March 2016
    trejgon wrote: »
    is it my imagination or do we got one of these every time cryptic release a new ship?

    Why not? A Constitution-class ship carried the torch for this franchise as THE ship for it's first 20 years before even TNG was a dream in Gene Rodenberry's head.

    But hey, we got endgame ENT era ships all around which predate the Constitution-class... Hell, they predate the FEDERATION, we got playable Species 8472 BIOSHIPS, we got other non-faction ships as playable ships.

    But the notion of the original hero-ship class being playable at endgame?

    ABSURD!
    because we have been told no, and all the pleading on the forums wont change that otherwise we would have had one ages ago.
    i could understand if this had never been answered but they have said time and again that it wont happen so let it go.

    Hell no it shouldn't be let go.

    Look how stupid the current ship lineup can be in what they do and don't allow. You have Ancient ENT-era ships in the varying factions that predate the Federation, and they're playable at endgame but not the Constitution. You have playable Non-Faction ships, to include most ridiculously Playable Species 8472 BIOSHIPS, on top of Herald, Dominion, Breen, etc. ships, but not the Constitution at endgame. The KDF happily flies the D-7 / K'T'Inga, yet it's counterpart the Constitution-class is nowhere to be found endgame.

    You have a playable Kazon ship at endgame, THE KAZON, FFS... but NOT the original hero ship class of Star Trek, the Constitution-class.

    Care to list those endgame ships that predates federation itself?
    You know everyone can throw around empty words like this but I haven't seen any playable ship that'd made even to T5-U that could predate federation...
    [no light escort NX-01 is not an endgame ship....]
    [don;t take me wrong It's not an assault, but you are throwing that statement at left and right and you just made me curious which ships could you be refering to]

    First and foremost, the Federation was founded towards the end of ENT. So all the ships you saw in ENT being used by various races predates the Federation itself.

    STO Kumari (ENT ship reference)
    STO D'Kyr (ENT ship reference)
    STO Somraw Raptor (ENT ship reference)
    STO T'Varo (ENT ship reference to include TOS Bird of Prey)
    - Of interest with the endgame T'Varo at T5 and T6, you can use the Ancient ENT-era model, the T'Varo, but not the subsequent T'Liss TOS skin that existed for the T1 version.

    There are only 3 ships from the TOS/TMP-era that are playable at endgame.
    The KDF's D-7 / K'T'Inga Battlecruiser, B'Rel, and Starfleet's Excelsior-class.

    The models exist in STO for the Constitution-class (Refit or otherwise, including STO era variants like Exeter), Miranda (same with its modern STO variants), TOS T'Liss. But you can only use those skins with low tier ships, while you can play with Ancient Pre-Federation ships that preceded the TOS ships at endgame.
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    comrademococomrademoco Member Posts: 1,694 Bug Hunter
    coldnapalm wrote: »
    Seriously, how is this thread still open?!?

    By not been closed.
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    warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    So... What other nonsensical ship is going to be made flyable but not the Constitution-class?
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    stofskstofsk Member Posts: 1,744 Arc User
    So... What other nonsensical ship is going to be made flyable but not the Constitution-class?
    V'ger lock box ship
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    grazyc2#7847 grazyc2 Member Posts: 1,988 Arc User
    Not another lock box ship bhewww, just a zen store ship will do nicely
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