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Krenim Science Vessel and Time for Tide only 1 can be equiped WHY ?

Krenim Science Vessel and Time for Tide only 1 can be equipped. I ran Time for tide many times in order to do a load out for the Krenim Science Vessel when I went to equip LOL found out only 1 beam array can be used and only 1 turret. and no cannons. What a rainbow ship this is going to be. Why did they do this.

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  • samt1996samt1996 Member Posts: 2,856 Arc User
    edited February 2016
    Because its a weapon set with bonuses, it's been the way they've done things since ever.
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  • seriousdaveseriousdave Member Posts: 2,777 Arc User
    edited February 2016
    Yeah it's kinda annoying to not be able to make a full build out of those special flavors. Resonant disruptor, quantum phase, etc. etc. While you can still do some pseudo rainbow build to get a good performance they still stick out like a sore thumb. :/
  • samt1996samt1996 Member Posts: 2,856 Arc User
    I would also like full sets because I enjoy space barbie but the idea has been brought up many times already so we can just wait and see if the dev's allow it or not.
  • seriousdaveseriousdave Member Posts: 2,777 Arc User
    Well, space barbie is pretty much 50% (or more) of sto's "endgame" and I think the devs are fully aware of that considering the latest flagship release. Though I doubt they will do something about the rainbow weapons, probably falls in the same category as the long requested implementation of rep & special shield visuals as tailor unlocks.
  • tancrediivtancrediiv Member Posts: 728 Arc User
    They could help with this so much by letting us pick the color of our weapons effects. For example, Polaron mixes are still Polaron with different colors and special effects. Just let us set the color. Why have the heavy bio phaser rep turret green? It's phaser damage. Etc.

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  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,660 Arc User
    tancrediiv wrote: »
    They could help with this so much by letting us pick the color of our weapons effects. For example, Polaron mixes are still Polaron with different colors and special effects. Just let us set the color. Why have the heavy bio phaser rep turret green? It's phaser damage. Etc.

    Exactly, like "unify colors" for armor in other MMOs.

  • storulesstorules Member Posts: 3,284 Arc User
    Because it's FREE. You can buy the real deal from the exchange for a small fortune or hoping you get one from the real Annorax box.

    Just an FYI that every Anniversary ship has been free but usually very substandard as compared to the one they usually sell on a box or C-store (with exception to the Zombie ship- Samsar)​​
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  • kayajaykayajay Member Posts: 1,990 Arc User
    I was in the middle of upgrading all the pieces and then I realized...oh, I can't use them all at the same time! With some sets, you'll struggle to even equip two at the same time, let alone three :-(
  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,572 Arc User
    One Beam Array and one Omni or one DHC and one Heavy Turret.
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  • nikeixnikeix Member Posts: 3,972 Arc User
    starmanj wrote: »
    Krenim Science Vessel and Time for Tide only 1 can be equipped. I ran Time for tide many times in order to do a load out for the Krenim Science Vessel when I went to equip LOL found out only 1 beam array can be used and only 1 turret. and no cannons. What a rainbow ship this is going to be. Why did they do this.

    I just want to check: You want us to be sympathetic that you didn't read the items at all before selecting them as rewards? 'Cause they say "max 1 per ship" pretty prominently on the tool tips I saw...

  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,577 Community Moderator
    You can always get a full set of Dominion Polaron Beam Arrays. ;)
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  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0 Arc User
    nikeix wrote: »
    I just want to check: You want us to be sympathetic that you didn't read the items at all before selecting them as rewards? 'Cause they say "max 1 per ship" pretty prominently on the tool tips I saw...

    Snark there seems unnecesarry. Don't see anywhere they were asking for sympathy. Just the hope that some day they'll make these sets more complete.


  • eighrichteeighrichte Member Posts: 338 Arc User
    edited February 2016
    You can in fact equip all four of the Chronometric Polaron weapons -- just not two of the same weapon. I've been running all sorts of combinations, testing builds; definitely able to have the beam, omni beam, DHC, and heavy turret all equipped at the same time.

    The problems with this are:
    1. While the DHC and both beams are a very nice blue-white color, the heavy turret is inexplicably blue-green.
    2. Mixing cannons and beams is kind of troublesome.
  • farranorfarranor Member Posts: 559 Arc User
    Every special set item in the game is like that. Even non-set items, like certain consoles, are like that. At this point, it's more of a surprise when an item isn't unique-equipped.
  • hyperionx09hyperionx09 Member Posts: 1,709 Arc User
    Well, space barbie is pretty much 50% (or more) of sto's "endgame" and I think the devs are fully aware of that considering the latest flagship release. Though I doubt they will do something about the rainbow weapons, probably falls in the same category as the long requested implementation of rep & special shield visuals as tailor unlocks.

    The problem is that STO is one of THE WORST games to play space barbie with.

    Just look at all the ground costumes and uniforms and even some hairstyles they refuse to add, sell, or release; many of them available in the Foundry for NPC customization with some of them looking sufficiently passable. Take a glance at the long-running uniform/costume request thread that just serves to contain all the requests for uniforms and attire that will never become available for one reason or another. And there's the fact that they still haven't unified and overhauled the costume color palette and added matte/reflective and hue/saturation options so that you can fully and properly match different uniform pieces together. About the only major change we've had was the improved body customization options.

    And as for ships, they STILL haven't given us the option to unlock Reputation and mission-reward/crafting set/special skins the way we can unlock ground armor for customization after collecting all 3 or 4 parts and completing the costume unlock "quest". We STILL can't unlock the Iconian, Aegis, A.MACO, or Borg overlay (overlays being the shield skins that don't cover up any customized hull pattern) to place over a Dyson, Mirror, Tholian, or Jem'Hadar skins (skins that completely replace the regular hull skin and pattern). We can't even customize patterns over the shield skins that completely replace the default hull material. And on the topic of patterns, they finally overhauled the color palette so you could have neon-colored ships, but there hasn't been any new hull patterns added.

    STO is the one of the most customization-unfriendly games as far as playing barbie dress-up goes, and is rather ironic as well, given that most of the game is spent on the ground viewing your character and their stiff movement. Now I'm not asking for Black Desert Online's level of character customization (their character creation is now a free download to play around with), nor even Blade and Soul's or Aion's, but at least a robust enough character creation system and costume variety would be nice, even if they have to sell it to us in bundles rather than separately (say 3 different costume sets for 1200 Zen, even if only one costume set is liked while the rest are just tagged to it to inflate the cost and make it "profitable"). Same goes for ship customization; if I have to pay 1200 Zen for classic and modern Mirror skins, or 1200 for 3 new hull pattern sets, so be it.
  • kjwashingtonkjwashington Member Posts: 2,529 Arc User
    Have you considered using the torpedo, DHC, and a random chroniton torpedo up front, and the turret, 360 beam, and beam array in back? Use torpedo BOff powers, then use the free subsystem targeting powers.
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  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    Yeah it's kinda annoying to not be able to make a full build out of those special flavors. Resonant disruptor, quantum phase, etc. etc. While you can still do some pseudo rainbow build to get a good performance they still stick out like a sore thumb. :/

    Not sure what you mean here. You can certainly equip all pertinent parts, to get the full set bonus.

    I'm pretty confident even you can equip the full set (but I admit I haven't really tried that).
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  • kjwashingtonkjwashington Member Posts: 2,529 Arc User
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    Yeah it's kinda annoying to not be able to make a full build out of those special flavors. Resonant disruptor, quantum phase, etc. etc. While you can still do some pseudo rainbow build to get a good performance they still stick out like a sore thumb. :/

    Not sure what you mean here. You can certainly equip all pertinent parts, to get the full set bonus.

    I'm pretty confident even you can equip the full set (but I admit I haven't really tried that).

    What they're asking for is the ability to equip a full build of these special weapons. For example, 6 of the chronometric polaron beam arrays on one ship. But since you can only equip one at a time, you can't do that.
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  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    Yeah it's kinda annoying to not be able to make a full build out of those special flavors. Resonant disruptor, quantum phase, etc. etc. While you can still do some pseudo rainbow build to get a good performance they still stick out like a sore thumb. :/

    Not sure what you mean here. You can certainly equip all pertinent parts, to get the full set bonus.

    I'm pretty confident even you can equip the full set (but I admit I haven't really tried that).

    What they're asking for is the ability to equip a full build of these special weapons. For example, 6 of the chronometric polaron beam arrays on one ship. But since you can only equip one at a time, you can't do that.

    Ah. I see. My bad.

    Yes, that would be lovely! :)
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  • kjwashingtonkjwashington Member Posts: 2,529 Arc User
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    Yeah it's kinda annoying to not be able to make a full build out of those special flavors. Resonant disruptor, quantum phase, etc. etc. While you can still do some pseudo rainbow build to get a good performance they still stick out like a sore thumb. :/

    Not sure what you mean here. You can certainly equip all pertinent parts, to get the full set bonus.

    I'm pretty confident even you can equip the full set (but I admit I haven't really tried that).

    What they're asking for is the ability to equip a full build of these special weapons. For example, 6 of the chronometric polaron beam arrays on one ship. But since you can only equip one at a time, you can't do that.

    Ah. I see. My bad.

    Yes, that would be lovely! :)

    While I also think that they should remove the "only one per ship" limitation on some weapons, I think that it should definitely remain on 360 beams. At least until beams and BFaW in general are brought back in line with other weapons. I could only imagine how OP a full 360 beam boat would be.
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  • hanover2hanover2 Member Posts: 1,053 Arc User
    While I also think that they should remove the "only one per ship" limitation on some weapons, I think that it should definitely remain on 360 beams. At least until beams and BFaW in general are brought back in line with other weapons. I could only imagine how OP a full 360 beam boat would be.

    Or how many people would think it's cute to run a 360 rainbow boat in queued missions.

  • makocallowaymakocalloway Member Posts: 455 Arc User
    @rattler2 love me my dominion polarons. They are one of the few beams with bonus that we can actually get a full set of. Great on drain builds too.
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  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    Yeah it's kinda annoying to not be able to make a full build out of those special flavors. Resonant disruptor, quantum phase, etc. etc. While you can still do some pseudo rainbow build to get a good performance they still stick out like a sore thumb. :/

    Not sure what you mean here. You can certainly equip all pertinent parts, to get the full set bonus.

    I'm pretty confident even you can equip the full set (but I admit I haven't really tried that).

    What they're asking for is the ability to equip a full build of these special weapons. For example, 6 of the chronometric polaron beam arrays on one ship. But since you can only equip one at a time, you can't do that.

    Ah. I see. My bad.

    Yes, that would be lovely! :)

    While I also think that they should remove the "only one per ship" limitation on some weapons, I think that it should definitely remain on 360 beams. At least until beams and BFaW in general are brought back in line with other weapons. I could only imagine how OP a full 360 beam boat would be.


    Why would it be OP? On a forward-arc based ship, with typically a few DBB's in fore, 2 Omni's and some sort of regular Rep beam in aft (for a full set), replacing all those with Omnis would only horribly gimp your ship, as Omni-beams aren't exactly the best in game. (Yeah, like I'm gonna give up my [CrtD]x3 [Pen], or [CrtD]x4 DBB's up for a few lame Omnis!) And a strafing pilot is generally already firing out of all his weps, most of the time.

    I agree they should keep those limited to only 1, but primarily only because it looks silly otherwise. :)
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