They did Nerf it... the patch this week isn't going to be until Friday.
That means one day less for the weekend event.
No, Trendy says pretty clearly in both the OP and the news blog that the bonus weekend starts Thursday morning as usual.
...Oh, baby, you know, I've really got to leave you / Oh, I can hear it callin 'me / I said don't you hear it callin' me the way it used to do?...
- Anne Bredon
At this point I am willing to bet that Cryptic is simply trolling Just like Dental does it, I'd get their motivation - the amount of people that act like their lives have been totally ruined by this change is indeed a source for amusement
Mind you, this does not include the people simply questioning the use of the calendar and lack of communication, these are issues Cryptic should make a statement about. But to the others, seriously get your stuff together.
My life has by no means been ruined, just my motivation to play this game or give cryptic money.
I'd be really curious to have sat in on the meeting where some bright bulb said "Hey, lets shave a bit off our credibility and light it on fire, and do it at the same time as we're trying to build hype about our next 'big' project." The donuts must have been exceptionally good that morning.
Captains! We're happy to announce that our Marks Weekend returns! From Thursday 2/18 at 9AM PST until Monday 2/22 at 10AM PST, Star Trek Online will be running a special weekend event where you can earn Bonus Fleet or Reputation Marks by playing content throughout the game!
We will be updating the in-game calendar to reflect the change to the Marks Weekend Event!
WHAT!? SERIOUSLY!? Two weeks ago I saw that this XP weekend was coming up and made plans to finally level my romulan and klingon alts ... I literally have no reason to play this weekend if that's been canceled ... I really couldn't care less about marks ... was waiting for my tax money so I can grab the T6 flagship bundle but instead I think I'm just going to play something else for the next 6 months or so. Not gonna say I'm quitting cause I'm a lifer and i know I'll be back, but Jesus am I disappointed right now.
Why do you need a special event to level characters? I can go from level 1 to level 50 in about 4-6 hours of total playing time doing nothing but story missions.
Because I don't particularly care too much for Romulans or Klingons, at least not as much as my Feds, so I want the most xp for my time I can get when I play through those faction stories. I also want to avoid the situation I've had on 3 separate fed toons where I get to about level 55ish and have no more story missions available to me. And finally, as a father of 3 kids 4 and under, I don't exactly have much time to dedicate to leveling in the first place.
I have 4 children under my roof (2 mine 2 steps), a 3 year old, 7 year old, 9 year old, and 11 year old with special needs. I also have a 14 year old who lives with my ex-wife. *shrug
I think the point here is the "bait and switch". Fact is, they have an in game calendar that lots of players use to make plans by and they swapped stuff out after it had been posted for long enough for folks to plan ahead. It's not like this is the first time...and it likely won't be the last, unless people speak up about it (even then it might not matter). Why, if they made a mistake couldn't they "own up" and correct it by *adding* the Marks Event to the XP (or at least after the XP Event)? As has been said, what is the point of having the calendar and using it to allow people time to plan ahead for things if they can (and do) change it "at a whim"?
They have an in game calendar that has been broken for months, its been mentioned in the patch notes multiple times, no bait and switch here at all, just people not paying attention.
It's well documented that you defend Cryptic at the worst of times but....that's a ridiculous defense.
If it's broken then they need to have it removed. Not everyone reads patch notes and they have the right to be confused as a result of this.
Retired. I'm now in search for that perfect space anomaly.
I'd be really curious to have sat in on the meeting where some bright bulb said "Hey, lets shave a bit off our credibility and light it on fire, and do it at the same time as we're trying to build hype about our next 'big' project." The donuts must have been exceptionally good that morning.
With Cryptic, one must expect the unexpected and prepare for disappointment at least 50% of the time. It's a toss up.
It's well documented that you respond with cold hard facts to the ridiculous inane drama of others.
Not everyone reads patch notes and they have the right to be confused as a result of this.
There, fixed that for you. As for people who don't read patch notes being confused, they have no one to blame but themselves. Equally, if they have a right to be confused then others have a right to laugh long and hard at them. As for me feeling sorry for them, well I'm not really capable of empathy so they are SOL on that one.[/quote]
Sure. Whatever makes you sleep better at night. Cryptic made a mistake, and you blame the players for not understanding why it's the way it is because it is NOT working as intended.
That's the cold hard facts of your silly post. No one asked for your empathy as I recall, but feel free to correct me.
It's an easy fix, it's broken or not working as intended, remove it. Simple.
Retired. I'm now in search for that perfect space anomaly.
It's well documented that you respond with cold hard facts to the ridiculous inane drama of others.
Not everyone reads patch notes and they have the right to be confused as a result of this.
How, pray tell, is asking for something to be fixed "inane drama"? It's known that not everything is listed every time in Patch notes so one could easily miss a "one off" note in them about something being broken - especially if said thing is broken for 6, 7, or 8 sets of Patch notes. If it's broken, remove/disable it until it is fixed; shouldn't be that hard since things that *aren't* broken get removed/disabled.
Honestly in most environments you go with what is advertised its good business practise to keep credibility amongst your customers. Infact in Canada by law you must do what is advertised and enforced by the competition bureau. It is not the customers fault for expecting an advertisement to be true, it is the company's fault for letting it become public.
I'm actually curious to see how the competition bureau would react to this, the CRTC has been quite interested in regulating the internet lately, I wonder if their sister agency is as well...
Honestly in most environments you go with what is advertised its good business practise to keep credibility amongst your customers. Infact in Canada by law you must do what is advertised and enforced by the competition bureau. It is not the customers fault for expecting an advertisement to be true, it is the company's fault for letting it become public.
I'm actually curious to see how the competition bureau would react to this, the CRTC has been quite interested in regulating the internet lately, I wonder if their sister agency is as well...
According to forum based law experts, Cryptic would have been sued to violate gambling laws in numerous state a dozen times already. Since that never happened I think no authority would care in this instance as well
^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
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"A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
"That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
Honestly in most environments you go with what is advertised its good business practise to keep credibility amongst your customers. Infact in Canada by law you must do what is advertised and enforced by the competition bureau. It is not the customers fault for expecting an advertisement to be true, it is the company's fault for letting it become public.
I'm actually curious to see how the competition bureau would react to this, the CRTC has been quite interested in regulating the internet lately, I wonder if their sister agency is as well...
According to forum based law experts, Cryptic would have been sued to violate gambling laws in numerous state a dozen times already. Since that never happened I think no authority would care in this instance as well
The internet is a tricky place to impose regulations as often the laws were written with no thought of the internet or even before it's existence. Plus you get the public involved politically about it since people often don't want regulation to apply... unless it explicitly benefits them.
And honestly I was thinking mostly hypothetically. The long term implications of a ruling on the matter would be very interesting. Like the case in British Columbia where google was ordered to remove website links... but how do you do that for just one region? Very interesting situations the internet provides.
We will be updating the in-game calendar to reflect the change to the Marks Weekend Event!
WHAT!? SERIOUSLY!? Two weeks ago I saw that this XP weekend was coming up and made plans to finally level my romulan and klingon alts ... I literally have no reason to play this weekend if that's been canceled ... I really couldn't care less about marks ... was waiting for my tax money so I can grab the T6 flagship bundle but instead I think I'm just going to play something else for the next 6 months or so. Not gonna say I'm quitting cause I'm a lifer and i know I'll be back, but Jesus am I disappointed right now.
Why do you need a special event to level characters? I can go from level 1 to level 50 in about 4-6 hours of total playing time doing nothing but story missions.
I tried lvling the new toon I made after buying character slots for this bonus xp weekend and made it to 40 and there are no more missions on fed side between 40 and 42 so your wrong. Now I'll have to grind 2k xp rerun missions to make it to 42 to start doing more of the story line.
We will be updating the in-game calendar to reflect the change to the Marks Weekend Event!
WHAT!? SERIOUSLY!? Two weeks ago I saw that this XP weekend was coming up and made plans to finally level my romulan and klingon alts ... I literally have no reason to play this weekend if that's been canceled ... I really couldn't care less about marks ... was waiting for my tax money so I can grab the T6 flagship bundle but instead I think I'm just going to play something else for the next 6 months or so. Not gonna say I'm quitting cause I'm a lifer and i know I'll be back, but Jesus am I disappointed right now.
Why do you need a special event to level characters? I can go from level 1 to level 50 in about 4-6 hours of total playing time doing nothing but story missions.
I tried lvling the new toon I made after buying character slots for this bonus xp weekend and made it to 40 and there are no more missions on fed side between 40 and 42 so your wrong. Now I'll have to grind 2k xp rerun missions to make it to 42 to start doing more of the story line.
I would like to get further into that 50-60 area too without running out of missions. I much prefer going through the story missions to get there over mindlessly grinding.
With the anouncment that came recently about the skill revamp, I'm inclined to think that the cancelation of the XP event is just so it can be rescheduled for the launch of this new system, so that those of us who are waiting on it to level alts can act as "Beta Testers" for the new system while leveling through missions.
Even though I'm still active on the forums, I have not logged into the game since this cancelation was anouncced except to see if the change was made on the calender, and to test the new system on tribble so I could actually say that yes, I have tried the new skill system, and yes all my criticisms still stand after Bort got rude over the criticisms the new system has received. Seriously if I talked to my customers the way ive seen him talk to players at times, I wouldn't have a job ... not wishing that on him, just saying he lacks people skills imho. Saying his paying customers should "eat crow", or getting rude with people he perceives to have misunderstood certain things (and in some cases it was actually HE who misunderstood the question and jumped to conclusions), just isn't how anyone should address their customers in an official capacity imho, and I honostly expected better of him given his roots.
Ok, I hope that rant doesn't derail this, but yeah I think this change was all about the skills revamp, and I won't be playing, much less buying zen, anytime soon because the level of disapointment this gave me killed all my motivation to play STO for the time being. I still love this community though.
I tried lvling the new toon I made after buying character slots for this bonus xp weekend and made it to 40 and there are no more missions on fed side between 40 and 42 so your wrong. Now I'll have to grind 2k xp rerun missions to make it to 42 to start doing more of the story line.
Bull, I have leveled multiple characters in the last year, including 3 delta recruits and more after that event , in all three factions, and I have not come up against a level wall until after I get to the Delta Quadrant, and even then it doesn't take much. I hit level 50 before getting to the Cardassian arc. Maybe, just maybe, my 5 percent bonus xp from veteran rewards affects this, but I doubt it has that big an effect.
Well, there's a knock-on effect here. First, 5% of 40 is +2 levels alone. On top of that, rewards are nonlinear, and the higher level you are up to a point, the more XP you get for it the same exact thing, so the gap widens. You can see a very significant XP gap arise from this effect over an initial perturbation as small as 200 XP, where when two players run side by side doing exactly the same things, but one got 200 XP more at the beginning from an achievement, the gap has ballooned to a level or more by the time you get to 50.
Although ruinthefun may be going a little overboard, he is nonetheless correct - that 5% is a massive influence, and some of my characters have hit the level wall despite participating (albeit not always too actively) in XP weekends a couple of times. I filled in the rest with Admiralty.
... Mind you, I 'may' have skipped some arcs on some of those characters, one of them going straight past the Dyson arc in favor of the Delta Quadrant, another skipping the Delta Quadrant instead and going for the Iconian War... Still, I don't think three more episodes would have done the trick for the Dyson-skipper, and that's basically all there is to the Dyson arc - three episodes and an unskippable tutorial.
Infinite possibilities have implications that could not be completely understood if you turned this entire universe into a giant supercomputer.
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...Oh, baby, you know, I've really got to leave you / Oh, I can hear it callin 'me / I said don't you hear it callin' me the way it used to do?...
- Anne Bredon
My life has by no means been ruined, just my motivation to play this game or give cryptic money.
I'd be really curious to have sat in on the meeting where some bright bulb said "Hey, lets shave a bit off our credibility and light it on fire, and do it at the same time as we're trying to build hype about our next 'big' project." The donuts must have been exceptionally good that morning.
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It's well documented that you defend Cryptic at the worst of times but....that's a ridiculous defense.
If it's broken then they need to have it removed. Not everyone reads patch notes and they have the right to be confused as a result of this.
With Cryptic, one must expect the unexpected and prepare for disappointment at least 50% of the time. It's a toss up.
Anyway,I guess I should wait for the next time
In every place,
The deeds of men remain the same..."
There, fixed that for you. As for people who don't read patch notes being confused, they have no one to blame but themselves. Equally, if they have a right to be confused then others have a right to laugh long and hard at them. As for me feeling sorry for them, well I'm not really capable of empathy so they are SOL on that one.[/quote]
Sure. Whatever makes you sleep better at night. Cryptic made a mistake, and you blame the players for not understanding why it's the way it is because it is NOT working as intended.
That's the cold hard facts of your silly post. No one asked for your empathy as I recall, but feel free to correct me.
It's an easy fix, it's broken or not working as intended, remove it. Simple.
How, pray tell, is asking for something to be fixed "inane drama"? It's known that not everything is listed every time in Patch notes so one could easily miss a "one off" note in them about something being broken - especially if said thing is broken for 6, 7, or 8 sets of Patch notes. If it's broken, remove/disable it until it is fixed; shouldn't be that hard since things that *aren't* broken get removed/disabled.
I'm actually curious to see how the competition bureau would react to this, the CRTC has been quite interested in regulating the internet lately, I wonder if their sister agency is as well...
According to forum based law experts, Cryptic would have been sued to violate gambling laws in numerous state a dozen times already. Since that never happened I think no authority would care in this instance as well
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The internet is a tricky place to impose regulations as often the laws were written with no thought of the internet or even before it's existence. Plus you get the public involved politically about it since people often don't want regulation to apply... unless it explicitly benefits them.
And honestly I was thinking mostly hypothetically. The long term implications of a ruling on the matter would be very interesting. Like the case in British Columbia where google was ordered to remove website links... but how do you do that for just one region? Very interesting situations the internet provides.
I tried lvling the new toon I made after buying character slots for this bonus xp weekend and made it to 40 and there are no more missions on fed side between 40 and 42 so your wrong. Now I'll have to grind 2k xp rerun missions to make it to 42 to start doing more of the story line.
I would like to get further into that 50-60 area too without running out of missions. I much prefer going through the story missions to get there over mindlessly grinding.
Even though I'm still active on the forums, I have not logged into the game since this cancelation was anouncced except to see if the change was made on the calender, and to test the new system on tribble so I could actually say that yes, I have tried the new skill system, and yes all my criticisms still stand after Bort got rude over the criticisms the new system has received. Seriously if I talked to my customers the way ive seen him talk to players at times, I wouldn't have a job ... not wishing that on him, just saying he lacks people skills imho. Saying his paying customers should "eat crow", or getting rude with people he perceives to have misunderstood certain things (and in some cases it was actually HE who misunderstood the question and jumped to conclusions), just isn't how anyone should address their customers in an official capacity imho, and I honostly expected better of him given his roots.
Ok, I hope that rant doesn't derail this, but yeah I think this change was all about the skills revamp, and I won't be playing, much less buying zen, anytime soon because the level of disapointment this gave me killed all my motivation to play STO for the time being. I still love this community though.
Although ruinthefun may be going a little overboard, he is nonetheless correct - that 5% is a massive influence, and some of my characters have hit the level wall despite participating (albeit not always too actively) in XP weekends a couple of times. I filled in the rest with Admiralty.
... Mind you, I 'may' have skipped some arcs on some of those characters, one of them going straight past the Dyson arc in favor of the Delta Quadrant, another skipping the Delta Quadrant instead and going for the Iconian War... Still, I don't think three more episodes would have done the trick for the Dyson-skipper, and that's basically all there is to the Dyson arc - three episodes and an unskippable tutorial.
Infinite possibilities have implications that could not be completely understood if you turned this entire universe into a giant supercomputer.