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Star Trek Online: Playable Terran Faction, New Graphics Engine, Story and Cryptic feedback.

Since we had the Iconian chapter, Future proof, and now Revamped episodes for Cardassian/Terrans... Cryptic might as well give us the option to play as the Terran Empire. Meaning we create Terran characters with a Terran Campaign (Story). It would be one of the excellent choices in order for Cryptic to Expand the game since the release of the Romulan Republic.

Obiviously there are many questions and answers on how the Terrans dealt the borg, the iconians, and the delta quadrant versus the things that has happened with the current factions storyline.

As to one of the responsives of what Cryptic has said a couple of years ago, they said they possibly would add more playable factions... which one of them is the Romulans. The next were the Terran Empire and the Dominion.

Ironically speaking, Cryptic has released a lot of Terran Empire content such as lockbox items and reputation gear (mirror ships were always in the game). On top of that, they have Leeta.

They should start focusing on more factions, new graphics engine (Since it's 2016 and all and technology is way ahead with the games graphics). There is so much things that can be added in this game, but so far what we are seeing is one episode per month, new priced tier 6 ships, released content is small, and very few bugs that have ever to be ironed out. In short terms, Cryptics acts like they have done so, so much but with little content and less bug fixes.
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  • talonxvtalonxv Member Posts: 4,257 Arc User
    Could be fun, but considering Cryptic/PWE doesn't want to do "BAD-GUY" factions, i doubt it will come about.
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  • bobbydazlersbobbydazlers Member Posts: 4,534 Arc User
    edited February 2016
    the problem is the terran empire is based in an alternate universe, cryptic would need to create a complete new sector map with all the alternate reality planets, space stations and such together with a complete new story line to level your captain a substantial amount before they could set foot in the prime universe.
    it would be a massive undertaking and take a colossal amount of server space to house all of the extra data.
    even all of the fleet holdings for terran characters would need to be based in the alternate universe.

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    maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,

     and if that journey takes a little longer,

    so we can do something we all believe in,

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  • nikephorusnikephorus Member Posts: 2,744 Arc User
    They aren't going to rework the engine. They will milk the current engine/game for as long as it's profitable. They don't have the time, money, or people to do a major overhaul.
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  • welcome2earfwelcome2earf Member Posts: 1,746 Arc User
    nikephorus wrote: »
    They aren't going to rework the engine. They will milk the current engine/game for as long as it's profitable. They don't have the time, money, or people to do a major overhaul.

    Thread over.
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  • kavasekavase Member Posts: 771 Arc User
    nikephorus wrote: »
    They aren't going to rework the engine. They will milk the current engine/game for as long as it's profitable. They don't have the time, money, or people to do a major overhaul.

    Exactly this. Just enjoy what's available, as the best it can offer.

    Anyway, a Terrain Empire theme would be cool, it'd be a massive undertaking. Probably best to leave it with another developer/publishing company make an entirely new game about the alternate universe.
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  • bobbydazlersbobbydazlers Member Posts: 4,534 Arc User
    further to my last comment the whole reputation system would also need either a complete rework or mirror alternatives to make any sense of the game, why would terrans be assisting new rom in the prime universe for example.

    When I think about everything we've been through together,

    maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,

     and if that journey takes a little longer,

    so we can do something we all believe in,

     I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.

  • cryptkeeper0cryptkeeper0 Member Posts: 989 Arc User
    nikephorus wrote: »
    They aren't going to rework the engine. They will milk the current engine/game for as long as it's profitable. They don't have the time, money, or people to do a major overhaul.

    I don't really expect a overhaul but I could see a feature of a future expansion being a updated graphics engine. Better textures etc.
  • kitsunesnoutkitsunesnout Member Posts: 1,210 Arc User
    But, I thought we already played the Terran Empire?! Someone was going to say it : P
  • sovereign47sovereign47 Member Posts: 399 Arc User
    No, Cardassian and/or Dominion faction would be much better option to go with since Terran Empire is only an evil version of Federation and therefore not that interesting.
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  • chiyoumikuchiyoumiku Member Posts: 1,028 Arc User
    A new graphics engine is going to require an entire tear down of the game. Not every idea to port assests to a new engine works. Plus if they shut this game down to do that, it's lost revenue.
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  • yakodymyakodym Member Posts: 363 Arc User
    Well, I had the idea a while back to change the Fed vs Klingon factions into Prime vs Mirror factions - both sides would get the same races, same maps, pretty much the same missions and stuff, but there would always be some differences between them - ships would have a bit different boff layouts, objectives in the missions would be different/reversed, etc. The whole thing could mostly re-use existing assets.
  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    The Federation in this game is already closer to the Terran Empire than you may think >:)
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  • jaymclaughlinjaymclaughlin Member Posts: 630 Arc User
    chiyoumiku wrote: »
    A new graphics engine is going to require an entire tear down of the game. Not every idea to port assests to a new engine works. Plus if they shut this game down to do that, it's lost revenue.

    Exactly, there's more chance of them making the game available to Mac users!
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  • lazarus51166lazarus51166 Member Posts: 646 Arc User
    A Terran Empire faction is a bad idea. Its nothing more than an evil version of what already exists. To say nothing of the fact that given Cryptics history, if they did implement such a faction they would probably copy/paste the existing missions, add beards and different uniforms to the NPCs and switch it so that you kill /conquer instead of save people/ships/etc... and call it a day. Remember what happened with those missions added for the KDF?

    A new engine isn't even a remote possibility
    As to one of the responsives of what Cryptic has said a couple of years ago, they said they possibly would add more playable factions... which one of them is the Romulans. The next were the Terran Empire and the Dominion.

    No, Dominion was never on the table, nor was was the empire. After the Romulans the next was stated as the Cardassians, which makes sense because after the big three, they are the only race left with any real solid backstory and information to base a faction on. Not that it'll be any different than the pseudo-faction that the Romulans turned out to be
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  • kylethetruekylethetrue Member Posts: 205 Arc User
    What's the point of Terran Empire characters? They're basically just a different federation. Surely there's more unique options for a new faction out there.
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  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    What's the point of Terran Empire characters? They're basically just a different federation. Surely there's more unique options for a new faction out there.

    It means "Booty Shorts For All." The TOS Terran Empire Uniforms that are in the game are pretty skimpy already B)
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  • sylveriareldensylveriarelden Member Posts: 531 Arc User
    A new engine isn't even a remote possibility

    In the short term, you're correct. In the long term, it's nothing short of an inevitability. The game will become increasingly outdated and unable to compete, with the limitations causing more and more headaches and problems, until the only choice is adapt and update or die. If they're as smart as so many of them seem to be, they're preparing for that eventuality and doing so in a way that is slow and steady so that when the time comes it can be implemented with minimum hassle.

    If they don't, they'll fall into the trap Commodore did in the early 90s where a popular but very aged platform had an entrenched install base and loyal users but they were unable to migrate to newer technology. They stuck around a lot longer than they had any right to expect given that they were taking 1981 technology into the mid-1990s, but they couldn't make it last forever. They failed to create a workable upgrade plan, and it killed them.

    STO's developers would be wise to avoid the same fate.​​

    Hmm sounds a lot like the direction EVE is headed with CCP Games.

    Outdated code - Check
    Entrenched fan base/loyal users - Check
    Around since dirt - Check
    No workable upgrade plan - Check

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  • jbmonroejbmonroe Member Posts: 809 Arc User
    A new engine isn't even a remote possibility

    In the short term, you're correct. In the long term, it's nothing short of an inevitability. .... They failed to create a workable upgrade plan, and it killed them.

    STO's developers would be wise to avoid the same fate.​​

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    The developers can want what they want, but they're not the ones with the business plan. Usually what happens is that when a game runs its course, it's allowed to die. It would actually be less expensive to create a new game on a modern engine than to completely re-write the existing code to suit a new engine. Besides, the first thing that has to happen is that CBS decides in favor of renewing the license to use the intellectual property. That's due relatively soon, and investing dollars (or yuan, or whatever) in an upgrade is premature considering the amount of time it would take.

    I know a lot of you kids are really impressed by the shiny, but here's the rule: game play > textures. Repeat it to yourself until you believe it.

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  • adamkafeiadamkafei Member Posts: 6,539 Arc User
    I think introducing the Terran empire as a faction would be a good idea at this point, they used the Romulans as an excuse to make the game effectively single faction so having a mirror of this setting gives us a second faction to play with almost identical assets, it's perfect. The only 'issue' is that they'd have to create two parallel storylines going forward, unless the temporal cold war goes the same way in both universes but then the cultural differences would be maintained and thus one could produce different versions of the same missions thus allowing for PvE content to not be faction exclusive.
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  • tousseautousseau Member Posts: 1,484 Arc User
    WTF is with the desire to make the bad guys a playable faction?
    Borg = pull some implant and we get touchy feely Liberated Borg who wish to get in touch with their humanity.
    Romulans = successfully injected with the Telle Tubby virus... Pacified.
    Klingons = apply a bit of novacaine and pull their bad boy teeth... Pacified.
    Cardassians = a couple of jolts with the shock collar can bring the wolves of the Alpha Quadrant to heel... Pacified.

    Lets just leave the bad guys bad... M'kay?
  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    tousseau wrote: »
    WTF is with the desire to make the bad guys a playable faction?
    Borg = pull some implant and we get touchy feely Liberated Borg who wish to get in touch with their humanity.
    Romulans = successfully injected with the Telle Tubby virus... Pacified.
    Klingons = apply a bit of novacaine and pull their bad boy teeth... Pacified.
    Cardassians = a couple of jolts with the shock collar can bring the wolves of the Alpha Quadrant to heel... Pacified.

    Lets just leave the bad guys bad... M'kay?

    Making them playable doesn't require neutering them... unless you're Cryptic..

    Terran Empire wont happen tho as a fraction or faction... why? Mirror costumes are Zen or Lobi unlocks, and Mirror ship skins are lockbox unlocks. Same problem as trying to release a Spoonhead fraction, they already put all their TRIBBLE out for sale and can't undo that.

    Now that said, you could do just a lv1-10 plot before the characters "transition" to our maps/timeline. Reducing the need for literal mirror maps/plots. But considering Cryptic has gone out of their way to get themselves OUT of having to write plots for more than one side....

    It aint gonna happen folks, like the idea or not, it's just not gonna fly when the Developers have put so much effort into not avoiding work.
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  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,899 Arc User
    What is so special about Terrans? They're evil Humans? There isn't much Terran based things you can't do...

    I mean you can slaughter hundreds...thousands of various aliens, you have access to basically every Terran uniform now, and you can make your own Terran ship skin with the better color palette they added.

    There isn't much you can't do to be Terran except what is limited by your imagination!
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  • lazarus51166lazarus51166 Member Posts: 646 Arc User
    Terran Empire wont happen tho as a fraction or faction... why? Mirror costumes are Zen or Lobi unlocks, and Mirror ship skins are lockbox unlocks. Same problem as trying to release a Spoonhead fraction, they already put all their **** out for sale and can't undo that.

    No, as far as the Cardassians go they have flat out stated the release of the Galor will not prevent a faction from being released and that the reason they have not released more Cardassian ships is due to the possibility of releasing them as a faction in the future. The idea of one ship preventing an entire faction from being on the table is absurd
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  • merciantrooopermerciantroooper Member Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited February 2016
    lianthelia wrote: »
    What is so special about Terrans? They're evil Humans?
    I think you mean, they are normal humans. Lets face it, we pretty much ARE the Terran Empire on earth right now.
    The Federation is simply how we want to be, not what we are. We are far closer to the Terrans than we ever will be to the Federation. If aliens landed tomorrow, we most likely would shotgun them in the face.....ugh, just referencing Enterprise makes me feel dirty and ashamed. It is a sad but true fact, humans are an angry, violent species.

  • kavasekavase Member Posts: 771 Arc User
    A new engine isn't even a remote possibility

    In the short term, you're correct. In the long term, it's nothing short of an inevitability. The game will become increasingly outdated and unable to compete, with the limitations causing more and more headaches and problems, until the only choice is adapt and update or die...​​

    You just basically described the fate of what happens to all video games in existence.

    STO will eventually fade away and die, sorry.
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  • marcopolo84xmarcopolo84x Member Posts: 12 Arc User
    Regarding a new faction, adding Terran Empire over/before Cardies or even Dominion
    is NOT something I would like to see.
    That being said, everything else mentioned here stands,
    but, I would still like to see a new engine and more factions,
    even if it is a pipe dream.....
  • talonxvtalonxv Member Posts: 4,257 Arc User
    Still waiting on a mirror episode where we run into the mirror version of ourselves.
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