If they made it that once the Starbase dies you get automatic fail condition, no one will do the Mirror Invasion event.
And right now, I'm sick and tired of this Mirror Event and the incompetence that is obvious that NONE of these people in the Development team even have played it if not on normal mode only. And now, let's talk about every thing wrong with this Mirror Invasion event:
1. Advanced should star Tom Cruise and be called: Mission Impossible.
No one cares about Normal mode in Mirror Invasion because it is too easy. Then you meet Mister Advanced mode, to begin my rant I will say it is impossible to save the Starbase for the first optional, it WILL always get to 0% HP regardless what you do or the team you have.
2. The bulls**ting DPS required.
I have eleven (11) characters which are all maxed out, and I mean they are EPIC QUALITY and fully MKXIV upgraded. My characters hit for close to 3,000+ PER hit from all their weapons, even my freaking turrets hit for around 1,000 or so buffed up. I have many friends with kick TRIBBLE gear and can do loads of damage (even surpassing that of 50,000), and I do this Mirror Invasion advanced and even with a team of 5 people with FULL EPIC GEAR and even at MKXIV quality... You will not save the station.
3. You will not close.
If you have 2 portals in an advanced Mirror Invasion appear next to each other, you will not get to close any of them. This is due because even the f**king frigates have over the top HP. By the time you kill all 3, you got 3 more spawning on you. Instead of having escorts, science vessels and frigates, you rather just replace everything with freaking dreadnoughts because the amount of HP they all have makes more sense.
4. Amazing AI gear.
The worse thing in advanced Mirror Invasion is the torpedo spreads the mobs do. These mobs will hit you for 30,000+ for EACH TORPEDO IN THE SPREAD. No, I am not saying that you are getting hit for 30,000+ in total, you are getting hit for 30,000+ PER TORPEDO in that spread. Never, no matter what gear you have in the game will you EVER get not even 20,000+ out of ONE torpedo in a spread. I do not care what the hell you are using or your gear quality or whatever. If you can hit that high you are exploiting something or just hacking. On top of this, it is not just one particular ship that has torpedo spread, 90% of them do. You might hit it 30,000+ with the first torpedo in the torpedo spread but not every single damn torpedo hitting for over 30,000+, the mobs in here hit it nonstop, and most of the time it is even up to 40,000+.
5. The station will always fall.
As mentioned before, the station is impossible to save in Advanced. You have frigates with a cluster f**k of HP that take ages to kill. You have torpedo spreads coming at you from all sides at 30,000+ per torpedo, hell even the fighters that the flight decks release have around T4 escort hull and shields. You will always be outnumbered because it is impossible for one person to go around closing portals because the HP on the mobs is so high, it takes ages to kill just one, let alone 3 protecting the portal. Again, doesn't matter your team, it doesn't matter how amazingly geared you are, doesn't matter the "strategy" used. There is no freaking strategy in this, you will lose the damn station regardless what you do.
6. Final boss dreadnought is like 5 dreadnoughts in one.
Finally after losing the station and only closing one portal (if you are lucky) - here comes the boss dreadnought. You will never get the bonus on destroying it on time. Doesn't matter how amazing your DPS is, you will not do it. It has more HP then 5 Tactical Cubes in normal Borg runs. Not only its HP, but to take down its shields is close to impossible regardless how amazing your shield drains are. Did I mention its torpedo spreads can reach for 50,000+ per torpedo in the spread?.. Yeah, that too.
Conclusion.
This is the biggest bulls**ting STF ever added to this game. It is not fun, it is very frustrating, the main optionals are pointless to be in the STF because it is impossible to get them, your team just can't kill anything fast enough regardless of gear used or build, or set up for that matter - thank the lord it is an event and will go away soon.
Analysis.
Supposedly, normal mode is supposed to be for players who have TRIBBLE gear, or at least green to blue MKXII gear. Advanced should be for players who have Very Rare or Ultra Rare gear that is at least MKXIII+. Elites should be for players that have fully GOLD Epic gear and be fully upgraded to MKXIV. When you can not get not even the first optional with a full team with EPIC gear and MKXIV - something is wrong here.
I challenge you.
I want the Development team to steam this STF and show themselves saving the station on Advanced mode in Mirror Invasion. Quite frankly, it is obvious that the Development team does not even play these STFs at all. They probably play it just on normal, see everything is super easy and think it is fine. This message goes out to the Development team, I know you people won't steam anything because I know for a fact you will never save the station... ON ADVANCED. What the Development team is are highly incompetent morons that do not test out what they add to the game and this STF here is the total evidence of that.
If I am fully upgraded with Epic gear at MKXIV, I shouldn't be having problems on an STF.
On top of this, the new Mirror STF space is just like this as well.
1. Not true. Have done advanced runs where the starbase has had anything from 60% - 100%
2. I do between 30k-40k (depending on luck with crits) as a sci, without using a PartGen build, in one of those useless Torpedo boats that people keep going on about. So... Not chart topping DPS by any stretch of the imagination.
3. Yes... you can close the rifts. Sorry, but you can. I do. Other people on successful runs do.
4. I'll give you that one. But it's still possible to survive. It's just not a Normal (easy) level map, so... yea... AI hurts more.
5. I repeat. It doesn't. And this optional is categorically NOT impossible to achieve
6. The Dread at the end is no different to the Tac Cube at the end of infected. So, no, not impossible at all.
On the Original topic of AFKers, they're annoying. But hardly something to have a blue fit over. Especially if you're doing Mirror Normal for the token thing. The dil only amounts to a week out the the 52 in a year or so of not having to collect ore on your alt - cos let's face it, you main shouldn't really need the ore anyways - and 1/3 of a piece of space gear in marks, with a crappy rifle that you have to upgrade from Mk XII blue to make it any good..... So.... I ask you all.... why are you doing the mirror event, and if you put the rewards into perspective, why do you care so much about getting them? I do the mirror event on all my characters, but um.... Things that MATTER to me are things like... my mother's health, whether I'll get fired next week, the sky falling on my head, or paying the rent every month.... not whether some dude went to make lunch while I alternate between hitting the spacebar and the 'f' key for a bit.......
"So my fun is wrong?"
No. Your fun makes everyone else's fun wrong by default.
If they made it that once the Starbase dies you get automatic fail condition, no one will do the Mirror Invasion event.
And right now, I'm sick and tired of this Mirror Event and the incompetence that is obvious that NONE of these people in the Development team even have played it if not on normal mode only. And now, let's talk about every thing wrong with this Mirror Invasion event:
1. Advanced should star Tom Cruise and be called: Mission Impossible.
No one cares about Normal mode in Mirror Invasion because it is too easy. Then you meet Mister Advanced mode, to begin my rant I will say it is impossible to save the Starbase for the first optional, it WILL always get to 0% HP regardless what you do or the team you have.
2. The bulls**ting DPS required.
I have eleven (11) characters which are all maxed out, and I mean they are EPIC QUALITY and fully MKXIV upgraded. My characters hit for close to 3,000+ PER hit from all their weapons, even my freaking turrets hit for around 1,000 or so buffed up. I have many friends with kick TRIBBLE gear and can do loads of damage (even surpassing that of 50,000), and I do this Mirror Invasion advanced and even with a team of 5 people with FULL EPIC GEAR and even at MKXIV quality... You will not save the station.
3. You will not close.
If you have 2 portals in an advanced Mirror Invasion appear next to each other, you will not get to close any of them. This is due because even the f**king frigates have over the top HP. By the time you kill all 3, you got 3 more spawning on you. Instead of having escorts, science vessels and frigates, you rather just replace everything with freaking dreadnoughts because the amount of HP they all have makes more sense.
4. Amazing AI gear.
The worse thing in advanced Mirror Invasion is the torpedo spreads the mobs do. These mobs will hit you for 30,000+ for EACH TORPEDO IN THE SPREAD. No, I am not saying that you are getting hit for 30,000+ in total, you are getting hit for 30,000+ PER TORPEDO in that spread. Never, no matter what gear you have in the game will you EVER get not even 20,000+ out of ONE torpedo in a spread. I do not care what the hell you are using or your gear quality or whatever. If you can hit that high you are exploiting something or just hacking. On top of this, it is not just one particular ship that has torpedo spread, 90% of them do. You might hit it 30,000+ with the first torpedo in the torpedo spread but not every single damn torpedo hitting for over 30,000+, the mobs in here hit it nonstop, and most of the time it is even up to 40,000+.
5. The station will always fall.
As mentioned before, the station is impossible to save in Advanced. You have frigates with a cluster f**k of HP that take ages to kill. You have torpedo spreads coming at you from all sides at 30,000+ per torpedo, hell even the fighters that the flight decks release have around T4 escort hull and shields. You will always be outnumbered because it is impossible for one person to go around closing portals because the HP on the mobs is so high, it takes ages to kill just one, let alone 3 protecting the portal. Again, doesn't matter your team, it doesn't matter how amazingly geared you are, doesn't matter the "strategy" used. There is no freaking strategy in this, you will lose the damn station regardless what you do.
6. Final boss dreadnought is like 5 dreadnoughts in one.
Finally after losing the station and only closing one portal (if you are lucky) - here comes the boss dreadnought. You will never get the bonus on destroying it on time. Doesn't matter how amazing your DPS is, you will not do it. It has more HP then 5 Tactical Cubes in normal Borg runs. Not only its HP, but to take down its shields is close to impossible regardless how amazing your shield drains are. Did I mention its torpedo spreads can reach for 50,000+ per torpedo in the spread?.. Yeah, that too.
Conclusion.
This is the biggest bulls**ting STF ever added to this game. It is not fun, it is very frustrating, the main optionals are pointless to be in the STF because it is impossible to get them, your team just can't kill anything fast enough regardless of gear used or build, or set up for that matter - thank the lord it is an event and will go away soon.
Analysis.
Supposedly, normal mode is supposed to be for players who have TRIBBLE gear, or at least green to blue MKXII gear. Advanced should be for players who have Very Rare or Ultra Rare gear that is at least MKXIII+. Elites should be for players that have fully GOLD Epic gear and be fully upgraded to MKXIV. When you can not get not even the first optional with a full team with EPIC gear and MKXIV - something is wrong here.
I challenge you.
I want the Development team to steam this STF and show themselves saving the station on Advanced mode in Mirror Invasion. Quite frankly, it is obvious that the Development team does not even play these STFs at all. They probably play it just on normal, see everything is super easy and think it is fine. This message goes out to the Development team, I know you people won't steam anything because I know for a fact you will never save the station... ON ADVANCED. What the Development team is are highly incompetent morons that do not test out what they add to the game and this STF here is the total evidence of that.
If I am fully upgraded with Epic gear at MKXIV, I shouldn't be having problems on an STF.
On top of this, the new Mirror STF space is just like this as well.
1. Not true. Have done advanced runs where the starbase has had anything from 60% - 100%
2. I do between 30k-40k (depending on luck with crits) as a sci, without using a PartGen build, in one of those useless Torpedo boats that people keep going on about. So... Not chart topping DPS by any stretch of the imagination.
3. Yes... you can close the rifts. Sorry, but you can. I do. Other people on successful runs do.
4. I'll give you that one. But it's still possible to survive. It's just not a Normal (easy) level map, so... yea... AI hurts more.
5. I repeat. It doesn't. And this optional is categorically NOT impossible to achieve
6. The Dread at the end is no different to the Tac Cube at the end of infected. So, no, not impossible at all.
On the Original topic of AFKers, they're annoying. But hardly something to have a blue fit over. Especially if you're doing Mirror Normal for the token thing. The dil only amounts to a week out the the 52 in a year or so of not having to collect ore on your alt - cos let's face it, you main shouldn't really need the ore anyways - and 1/3 of a piece of space gear in marks, with a crappy rifle that you have to upgrade from Mk XII blue to make it any good..... So.... I ask you all.... why are you doing the mirror event, and if you put the rewards into perspective, why do you care so much about getting them? I do the mirror event on all my characters, but um.... Things that MATTER to me are things like... my mother's health, whether I'll get fired next week, the sky falling on my head, or paying the rent every month.... not whether some dude went to make lunch while I alternate between hitting the spacebar and the 'f' key for a bit.......
First of all, people here are playing a video game and giving their suggesions about it. I think things in real life that matters is common sense to people. But you are in a game, which you play and worry about things in the GAME not real life. This is entertainment, but people can give feedback - hello, you are in the FEEDBACK section of the website.
That is one, two; PvP me to prove that or stop typing nonsense.
I'm talking about 30,000+ damage in ONE TORPEDO from a torpedo spread. Not 30,000+ in total or in the overall damage from a torpedo spread 3 that is x6 torpedos. If you seriously believe you can do 30,000+ out of ONE TORPEDO in a torpedo spread, find me in the game @zeatrex and PvP me because I want to see that.
Because right now, no you can not do that at all.
I will record it so everyone can see you are right, and how about you add me to that team that you claim you get 60%-100% with the starbase alive, because I want to see that too - seriously I want too. Record your runs, and I want to see you queuing in Advanced mode too, because I seriously do not believe you, if you can't prove it, don't type it.
First of all, people here are playing a video game and giving their suggesions about it. I think things in real life that matters is common sense to people. But you are in a game, which you play and worry about things in the GAME not real life. This is entertainment, but people can give feedback - hello, you are in the FEEDBACK section of the website.
That is one, two; PvP me to prove that or stop typing nonsense.
I'm talking about 30,000+ damage in ONE TORPEDO from a torpedo spread. Not 30,000+ in total or in the overall damage from a torpedo spread 3 that is x6 torpedos. If you seriously believe you can do 30,000+ out of ONE TORPEDO in a torpedo spread, find me in the game @zeatrex and PvP me because I want to see that.
Because right now, no you can not do that at all.
I will record it so everyone can see you are right, and how about you add me to that team that you claim you get 60%-100% with the starbase alive, because I want to see that too - seriously I want too. Record your runs, and I want to see you queuing in Advanced mode too, because I seriously do not believe you, if you can't prove it, don't type it.
You appear to have misunderstood.
I do 30k-40k DPS overall, and I should probably have specified that it was DPS, not damage from a single torp. I was merely pointing out that insane, chart topping output is not necessary.
I concede your point about the difference between RL and a game. I guess I just don't get so annoyed by AFKers as it appears many people on these forums do.
Oddly enough, the aforementioned run was recorded. Like I said, it's not a perfect run, and I think at some point we all die, me more than once, but decent enough.
You will also notice I use lots of cheese and so-called P2W bs, including KLW, but since you said that it was impossible with Epic gear, and regardless of your team's gear and setup, that shouldn't be an issue.
"So my fun is wrong?"
No. Your fun makes everyone else's fun wrong by default.
If they made it that once the Starbase dies you get automatic fail condition, no one will do the Mirror Invasion event.
And right now, I'm sick and tired of this Mirror Event and the incompetence that is obvious that NONE of these people in the Development team even have played it if not on normal mode only. And now, let's talk about every thing wrong with this Mirror Invasion event:
1. Advanced should star Tom Cruise and be called: Mission Impossible.
No one cares about Normal mode in Mirror Invasion because it is too easy. Then you meet Mister Advanced mode, to begin my rant I will say it is impossible to save the Starbase for the first optional, it WILL always get to 0% HP regardless what you do or the team you have.
2. The bulls**ting DPS required.
I have eleven (11) characters which are all maxed out, and I mean they are EPIC QUALITY and fully MKXIV upgraded. My characters hit for close to 3,000+ PER hit from all their weapons, even my freaking turrets hit for around 1,000 or so buffed up. I have many friends with kick TRIBBLE gear and can do loads of damage (even surpassing that of 50,000), and I do this Mirror Invasion advanced and even with a team of 5 people with FULL EPIC GEAR and even at MKXIV quality... You will not save the station.
3. You will not close.
If you have 2 portals in an advanced Mirror Invasion appear next to each other, you will not get to close any of them. This is due because even the f**king frigates have over the top HP. By the time you kill all 3, you got 3 more spawning on you. Instead of having escorts, science vessels and frigates, you rather just replace everything with freaking dreadnoughts because the amount of HP they all have makes more sense.
4. Amazing AI gear.
The worse thing in advanced Mirror Invasion is the torpedo spreads the mobs do. These mobs will hit you for 30,000+ for EACH TORPEDO IN THE SPREAD. No, I am not saying that you are getting hit for 30,000+ in total, you are getting hit for 30,000+ PER TORPEDO in that spread. Never, no matter what gear you have in the game will you EVER get not even 20,000+ out of ONE torpedo in a spread. I do not care what the hell you are using or your gear quality or whatever. If you can hit that high you are exploiting something or just hacking. On top of this, it is not just one particular ship that has torpedo spread, 90% of them do. Only way you can hit 20,000+ (and that is a HUGE MAYBE because most of the time you will hit 15,000-17,000 on it) is using the Neutronic Torpedo Launcher from the Delta reputation. But this torpedo only fires 3 torpedos in a spread regardless what rank you use. But I'm talking about mobs hitting 30,000+ x6 in a spread, the mobs hit it nonstop, and most of the time it is even up to 40,000+.
5. The station will always fall.
As mentioned before, the station is impossible to save in Advanced. You have frigates with a cluster f**k of HP that take ages to kill. You have torpedo spreads coming at you from all sides at 30,000+ per torpedo, hell even the fighters that the flight decks release have around T4 escort hull and shields. You will always be outnumbered because it is impossible for one person to go around closing portals because the HP on the mobs is so high, it takes ages to kill just one, let alone 3 protecting the portal. Again, doesn't matter your team, it doesn't matter how amazingly geared you are, doesn't matter the "strategy" used. There is no freaking strategy in this, you will lose the damn station regardless what you do.
6. Final boss dreadnought is like 5 dreadnoughts in one.
Finally after losing the station and only closing one portal (if you are lucky) - here comes the boss dreadnought. You will never get the bonus on destroying it on time. Doesn't matter how amazing your DPS is, you will not do it. It has more HP then 5 Tactical Cubes in normal Borg runs. Not only its HP, but to take down its shields is close to impossible regardless how amazing your shield drains are. Did I mention its torpedo spreads can reach for 50,000+ per torpedo in the spread?.. Yeah, that too.
Conclusion.
This is the biggest bulls**ting STF ever added to this game. It is not fun, it is very frustrating, the main optionals are pointless to be in the STF because it is impossible to get them, your team just can't kill anything fast enough regardless of gear used or build, or set up for that matter - thank the lord it is an event and will go away soon.
Analysis.
Supposedly, normal mode is supposed to be for players who have TRIBBLE gear, or at least green to blue MKXII gear. Advanced should be for players who have Very Rare or Ultra Rare gear that is at least MKXIII+. Elites should be for players that have fully GOLD Epic gear and be fully upgraded to MKXIV. When you can not get not even the first optional with a full team with EPIC gear and MKXIV - something is wrong here.
I challenge you.
I want the Development team to steam this STF and show themselves saving the station on Advanced mode in Mirror Invasion. Quite frankly, it is obvious that the Development team does not even play these STFs at all. They probably play it just on normal, see everything is super easy and think it is fine. This message goes out to the Development team, I know you people won't steam anything because I know for a fact you will never save the station... ON ADVANCED. What the Development team is are highly incompetent morons that do not test out what they add to the game and this STF here is the total evidence of that.
If I am fully upgraded with Epic gear at MKXIV, I shouldn't be having problems much problems on an STF, let alone a full team that are rolling Epic + MKXIV.
On top of this, the new Mirror STF space is just like this as well.
So...you just suck at this game then. Because my for fun cannon ships can do this mission just fine as long as I am in a game where people know what they are doing. That means none DPS people should be following the top DPSers to close the rifts. I think I topped at 20k DPS with this build...so pretty sure it's you (or your group of friends who you play with) and not the mission or the gear. Less whiny, more playing...that's how you get better.
Talking all that TRIBBLE with no evidence to your claim, I'm still waiting for an invite in game to see this happen. Don't come in here claiming you can do whatever and prove it by recording it or just adding me to your team to do it with you. You can talk all you want, but I know you can not save the starbase, stop being idiots.
If they made it that once the Starbase dies you get automatic fail condition, no one will do the Mirror Invasion event.
And right now, I'm sick and tired of this Mirror Event and the incompetence that is obvious that NONE of these people in the Development team even have played it if not on normal mode only. And now, let's talk about every thing wrong with this Mirror Invasion event:
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On top of this, the new Mirror STF space is just like this as well.
I LOVE THIS POST !!! LOVE IT !!! - Wow! The wall-of-text III ability is just amazing. I cannot write this much even with a cup of coffee in both hands.
-- Also, if this post is not ironic -- you're doing it wrong --- so you might want to make friends (like in game, but for- realsies) with some veterans who complete this without EPIC anything. Lots of people do it right. Lots of people do it wrong (and that sucks).
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1. Not true. Have done advanced runs where the starbase has had anything from 60% - 100%
2. I do between 30k-40k (depending on luck with crits) as a sci, without using a PartGen build, in one of those useless Torpedo boats that people keep going on about. So... Not chart topping DPS by any stretch of the imagination.
3. Yes... you can close the rifts. Sorry, but you can. I do. Other people on successful runs do.
4. I'll give you that one. But it's still possible to survive. It's just not a Normal (easy) level map, so... yea... AI hurts more.
5. I repeat. It doesn't. And this optional is categorically NOT impossible to achieve
6. The Dread at the end is no different to the Tac Cube at the end of infected. So, no, not impossible at all.
On the Original topic of AFKers, they're annoying. But hardly something to have a blue fit over. Especially if you're doing Mirror Normal for the token thing. The dil only amounts to a week out the the 52 in a year or so of not having to collect ore on your alt - cos let's face it, you main shouldn't really need the ore anyways - and 1/3 of a piece of space gear in marks, with a crappy rifle that you have to upgrade from Mk XII blue to make it any good..... So.... I ask you all.... why are you doing the mirror event, and if you put the rewards into perspective, why do you care so much about getting them? I do the mirror event on all my characters, but um.... Things that MATTER to me are things like... my mother's health, whether I'll get fired next week, the sky falling on my head, or paying the rent every month.... not whether some dude went to make lunch while I alternate between hitting the spacebar and the 'f' key for a bit.......
No. Your fun makes everyone else's fun wrong by default.
9/10 Station health.
23 Rifts closed.
Dreadnaught dead with 1m:01s left on the bonus timer.
It's not the best run that anyone has ever done, and there were several deaths on our team, but it's nowhere near impossible.
No. Your fun makes everyone else's fun wrong by default.
First of all, people here are playing a video game and giving their suggesions about it. I think things in real life that matters is common sense to people. But you are in a game, which you play and worry about things in the GAME not real life. This is entertainment, but people can give feedback - hello, you are in the FEEDBACK section of the website.
That is one, two; PvP me to prove that or stop typing nonsense.
I'm talking about 30,000+ damage in ONE TORPEDO from a torpedo spread. Not 30,000+ in total or in the overall damage from a torpedo spread 3 that is x6 torpedos. If you seriously believe you can do 30,000+ out of ONE TORPEDO in a torpedo spread, find me in the game @zeatrex and PvP me because I want to see that.
Because right now, no you can not do that at all.
I will record it so everyone can see you are right, and how about you add me to that team that you claim you get 60%-100% with the starbase alive, because I want to see that too - seriously I want too. Record your runs, and I want to see you queuing in Advanced mode too, because I seriously do not believe you, if you can't prove it, don't type it.
You appear to have misunderstood.
I do 30k-40k DPS overall, and I should probably have specified that it was DPS, not damage from a single torp. I was merely pointing out that insane, chart topping output is not necessary.
I concede your point about the difference between RL and a game. I guess I just don't get so annoyed by AFKers as it appears many people on these forums do.
Oddly enough, the aforementioned run was recorded. Like I said, it's not a perfect run, and I think at some point we all die, me more than once, but decent enough.
Here's the YouTube link
None of the voices are mine.
You will also notice I use lots of cheese and so-called P2W bs, including KLW, but since you said that it was impossible with Epic gear, and regardless of your team's gear and setup, that shouldn't be an issue.
No. Your fun makes everyone else's fun wrong by default.
Hook and sinker. lol lol lol
No. Your fun makes everyone else's fun wrong by default.
I LOVE THIS POST !!! LOVE IT !!! - Wow! The wall-of-text III ability is just amazing. I cannot write this much even with a cup of coffee in both hands.
-- Also, if this post is not ironic -- you're doing it wrong --- so you might want to make friends (like in game, but for- realsies) with some veterans who complete this without EPIC anything. Lots of people do it right. Lots of people do it wrong (and that sucks).