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would you support a large, pay for it expansion?
vetteguy904
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Kinda like the blizz game does with their expansions, you could get the Gamma Quadrant expansion, Andromeda expansion, etc. I'm talking about whole new maps, explorable worlds, new villains and allies, and a largse storyline.. like on the oder of legacy of Romulus and the delta expansion combined. in addition, an add on pack with 12 ships, 4 fed Klink and Rom 1 sci 1 cruiser 1 escort one carrier.
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You should know by now that Cryptic NEVER asks anyone to pay for an expansion. No one would be willing to pay for the next expansion when LoR and DR have both been free.
Beyond which, who would pay for content in a game this buggy? For a lot of people on a good day it's questionable, on a bad day unplayable.
Between all these things, paid expansion on top of that? No way.
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If it is made with the mindset of a full paid expansion then sure; most likely. If its good.
Currently there are no real incentives to spend money on STO. Its all always new ships related or odd skills related or those meta-game things like doffs and similar. Its always massive amount of new toys for stuff I'm not to eager to repeat again. And when they sell something cool out of the norm like the Intrepid interior they love to shoot their own foot even when told to not shoot their own foot by pulling stunts like not separating the bridge from the rest of the interior.
P.S. I kinda know where your thinking is coming from. You want a STO game that is on the quality level of wow. I do to and everyone one else most likely. Its not going to happen. Your just not going to get the level of quality out of a game that maybe 10 people work on compared to a game that 3000 people work on. There is a place in every sto players journey that takes him to this point in his thinking. Some people move past it and some don't. Who will you be. (there is no right answer btw).
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If the game remained a subscription based game, I might, provided the quality of the game and it's subsequent expansions were much better than they are under the current F2P model.
Cryptic already has a lifetime subscription from me for STO and for Champions Online. Under the current circumstances, I see no reason to pay extra for rushed and broken content.
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Please explain the reasons that lead you to your idea.
forcing players into spending money or be locked out of content is not a policy cryptic would ever tolerate.
$30 for a single top tier ship might seem a lot for you but don't forget you are not forced into buying these ships you do it out of choice, also bare in mind that a lot of players have never spent a penny on the game.
if the game was monthly subscription only you could pay as much as $180 a year to play this game and still have to pay for ships and other extras on top of that.
paying for extra content does not necessarily mean you will not have to pay for game items also, swtor charge players to unlock certain content but also charge for the purchase of certain game items.
having said that I don't find $30 for a ship that expensive, take that well known tank game, a yearly sub is about $120 but just one gold tier 10 tanks can cost around as much as a years subscription price.
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and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
Second would be that with this expansion elements fo the game that are either lacking or unfinished were completed, balanced, and reworked to function better. Such as fleshing out the Romulan faction into its own pure faction thru a story arc that leads to New Romulus becoming a full hub world like the Kdf an Feds have, while than the fed/kdf Romulan characters dropping their sub-faction links to consolidate into a solid faction. Also it would be nice to see the star ship rooster on both the Romulan an Kdf side bolstered up to atleast have 75% of the verity an size of the Fed faction has.
-On a side note always found it funny that to get a true science ship on the KDF side you had to buy it in the Zen-store, when it feels like that the zen-store ships should be unique or upgraded ships of existing ships, and would love to see things like a basic model version of the Gorn/Orion/Nausicaan ships able to be gotten in game. I would not mind if these ships had weaker stats, reduced consoles slots maybe, and did not have the console item the zen store version had, just so that as a science character I had more of a ship suiting that style of play. As well as that the other three races in the Kdf were actually shown in teh ship line up, allowing a us to choose to fly a ship from chosen race in the faction. Though to me it was weird that the Orion a race that to me seem more science like has alot of cruisers/carriers, but the Gorn are the ones that bring the science ships even though to me they seem more of those that would use carriers an cruisers.-
Third would be more balancing an fleshing out of the abilities, mechanics, and even expanding into more areas like a true sub-career of your main-career. Like that an engineer could sub into more of a fabrication type an gain access to more unique modules/abilities, as well as buffing other existing fabrication abilities he/she had. Seeing more mechanics for the different ships like an evolution on some of the current mechanics of ships we have would be nice, such as cruiser commands or even reworks of things like how hanger/separation pets work thru the UI or AI they have. Also a rework or atleast on going attempt to push us away from the current state of the meta would be nice, like not completely going the route of the trinity but more reducing the importance of dps, while pushing more importance on team work an verity in the style of stfs an mission types.
I actually like the idea of buying an expansion if is a true flushed out expansion that adds elements to all areas of the game,or even just adding to areas that are less profitable to do on an individual circumstance. Like areas such as with vanity items, less popular ships (ie small craft, or science ships), small scale story arcs (like getting a full story arc detailing what the collective/cooperative is doing or happening with them, or history between the blue-gil an trill symbiot). Revamps/reworks to mechanics an elements of the game that are less used by the larger market of the game, such as with a rework to hanger-pets, or with less popular abilities of careers an even ground combat content.
cryptic wants my money for content? firts thing they got to do again is send their content through some QA first, get rid of those nasty bugs they leave in their product. and then prove it with a track record. the content also has to be worth the cost as well.
until they can match the standards other good mmos are setting, no i wont buy into a paid expansion on sto until then.
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Most of the stuff in the Delta and Legacy of Romulus packs were, to me, not useful. I bought the Phantom, and some smaller things from the Delta pack. Those things were worth paying for. If I would have had to buy the whole pack with titles and ships I would never use, I would've rather paid nothing and not get the Phantom either.
It's no longer possible to reach Andromeda.
As others have pointed out, the content part of those expansions were free. So no, I wouldn't pay for that, as we already pay for ships, fleet projects etc. to cover the costs for content development.
they cant really improve the graphics within extra content without improving graphics in the rest of the game, sure they can tweak certain items to make them look slightly better but they are still working within the confines of the existing graphics engine.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
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I agree if they do/did a paid expansion method it would need to not have the main story-line as well as zones tied to buying the expansion, kinda like how rifts does it that the main story and zones of the game are all free an open to all players. Though i could see side content, side story elements that are not directly tied to the expansion outside of just expanding on things (like how some would like to hear more on the collective/cooperative from delta), as well as things like adding new careers to the game being tied to buying the expansion.
When Cryptic do decide to use a new one or update their graphics engine, they will need to ensure that older machines are still capable of running it. I run STO on a 6 year old laptop, and any update could rule out me playing because my machine isn't capable. Granted I also have a brand new shiny lappy, but why should I get rid of 'old-faithful'?
With this year being the 50th Anni, I would hope Cryptic have something MASSIVE in the works, but I wouldn't risk segregating groups by making people pay for access to content.
And of course, DR and LoR habe both been free, so why pay for the next one?