There have been many reasons spouted on why there aren't more Romulan characters that are being created.
- The alliance system. People wanted a separate faction that would enable three way PvP.
- Wanting to play the Romulan Star Empire based on what they see from the shows. They want to be the sneaks not the buddy buddy Romulans.
- Tovan Khev being a permanent addition to your crew and ruining chances of customizing your bridge officers to your heart's true desire (like an all female crew).
- Not enough customization with ship parts available without unlocking from the C-store. One standard bridge for every ship that's not the Scimitar.
- Those who do play Romulans see a lack of things that could make Romulans feel like their own faction, like Romulan looking Starbases and a security officer for turning in contraband like at other faction hubs.
- Biggest reason nowadays may be the lack of science ship options at tier 6 for Romulans.
I think when it comes down to it, people want the Romulans to feel more than what they are right now and Cryptic didn't deliver on that.
-Nope didnt
-Even as the Empire... After Shinzon there was plenty of room for some reform within the RSE w/o going to the Rebel Alliance Romulan Republic extreme
-Im not a fan of his but he's hardly a reason to not make Romulan characters
-Yeah thats annoying
-Or even a cosmetic fleet project to make existing Fed/KDF Bases LOOK Romulan
-I dont think sci is, by itself, a big enough reason, just lack of ships in general
Ok that was a rom auto-hail on login. So what do you expect from peeps who have that dumb admirals. Ofc they had no chance even only against a clone of Picard let alone Spock lol...
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shouldn't there be a lot more romulan players?the reason i ask is because there is a big chunk of story that you even play has a fed but makes a lot more since if you play has a romulan. you bump into npc that you have known from start of game.then there are npc that you have been looking for in one of the major story arks that has a fed you just pass by. i must say i haven't enjoyed this game this much since game lunched
I have 2 Romulan/Federation toons, one around lvl 52 and the other lvl 60. I however do not use them much because I hate cannon builds with weak ships. I just can't seem to work with the Romulan ships for some reason. Unfortunately you can not use the Fed or KDF T6 ships either.
I have a couple of Romulans, one a Fed and one KDF aligned, as alts.
Not sure why people are in a rush for a new faction, as it will just end up as another minority to the Federation.
Sure, after the inevitable day one big ship bundle, 6 months later and they'll be in the same boat as the KDF and Romulan's only getting ship's so long as the Fed's do....
Seeing that they are a sub-faction, I know of a few that feel they are a waste of time as you end up going fed/kdf anyway, which is too bad because that's not entirely true.
The "sub-faction" thing is precisely why I switched my main to a Romulan at LoR release. Because they get their own stuff and their allied faction stuff. It's just unbelievable the allies get nothing in return.
The alliance system should be expanded to a full 3-way alliance. It would solve so many problems and inequalities, including the Romulans' image as a "sub-faction."
Hopefully they'll have more ship options soon to open up more options for them.
Yes. Before admiralty that wasn't really an issue, because the Scimitar was and still is still the best and greatest, but now there's a distinct lack of volume in their admiralty deck especially for science.
Those farm guys can never match up to the umpteenth ESD overhaul at any rate. It must surely be time for another one of those!
Still in a fairly good mood over the new T'varo variants, but my Romulan Science alt has like forever been stuck in a ship that is in a lower tier, and never can be upgraded. There is a big hole at the top there, without going for one of those ship bundles I guess. Can't really buy three ships for every new one my main needs though.
The "sub-faction" thing is precisely why I switched my main to a Romulan at LoR release. Because they get their own stuff and their allied faction stuff. It's just unbelievable the allies get nothing in return.
The alliance system should be expanded to a full 3-way alliance. It would solve so many problems and inequalities, including the Romulans' image as a "sub-faction."
What? Roms only get their forced alliance's Tier 1-4 ships (free and C-Store), and are forced to use either DS9 or their alliance facilities for contraband and prisoner turn in (unless there are other locations I'm unaware of).
I don't know what you mean by a 3-way alliance, but by the sound of it I'm completely against it and it would further degrade whatever's left of faction uniqueness. I didn't grind/pay to end up with another Fed.
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Yes. Before admiralty that wasn't really an issue, because the Scimitar was and still is still the best and greatest, but now there's a distinct lack of volume in their admiralty deck especially for science.
I'm hoping the next 3-pack is science ships. I would LOVE to try out a T6 Nebula.
I run a rom tac as my main and just switched from bfaw boredom to a T'varo torp boat and i am so happy about it. It is really great fun to see the red blob of death in action.
Just my rom sci makes me cry everytime...the lack of T6 rom sci ships is really a shame.
no reputation armor, but we do get the best crew and some of the best ships.
Not sure if it would be considered rep gear but look at the quest "Uneasy Allies". It's the first quest in the chain for iconian. It's a 3 piece Romulan Imperial Navy set, including armor, shield and career specific kit. Best part it's free. Just have to run it 3 times and choose a different piece.
Not sure how it stacks up against the other sets and haven't looked at it in a while, but who can argue with a free set.
The "sub-faction" thing is precisely why I switched my main to a Romulan at LoR release. Because they get their own stuff and their allied faction stuff. It's just unbelievable the allies get nothing in return.
The alliance system should be expanded to a full 3-way alliance. It would solve so many problems and inequalities, including the Romulans' image as a "sub-faction."
What? Roms only get their forced alliance's Tier 1-4 ships (free and C-Store), and are forced to use either DS9 or their alliance facilities for contraband and prisoner turn in (unless there are other locations I'm unaware of).
Yes, that alliance is badly incomplete to the point of stretching believability. Both in the sense that Romulan players have to permanently choose only one faction to get stuff from, despite the Republic being allied with both other factions. And in the sense that those allied factions get absolutely nothing in return.
I don't know what you mean by a 3-way alliance, but by the sound of it I'm completely against it and it would further degrade whatever's left of faction uniqueness. I didn't grind/pay to end up with another Fed.
It means exactly what it sounds like. That all the factions share everything like the Romulans do, except both ways.
Faction uniqueness is a first-class load of bull. All the factions are sub-factions, origin stories. The alliance is the real faction. Everyone does the same missions for the same NPCs and get the same rewards for completing them. Other than a few different lines of dialogue here and there, everyone even completes them in exactly the same way. Various arbitrary restrictions are just cramping our style and unbalancing the sub-factions.
- The alliance system. People wanted a separate faction that would enable three way PvP.
PvP an issue??
- Wanting to play the Romulan Star Empire based on what they see from the shows. They want to be the sneaks not the buddy buddy Romulans.
Mustache twirling evil makes for boring villains.
- Tovan Khev being a permanent addition to your crew and ruining chances of customizing your bridge officers to your heart's true desire (like an all female crew).
I like Tovan Khev
- Not enough customization with ship parts available without unlocking from the C-store. One standard bridge for every ship that's not the Scimitar.
Ok, this is an issue I'll agree
- Those who do play Romulans see a lack of things that could make Romulans feel like their own faction, like Romulan looking Starbases and a security officer for turning in contraband like at other faction hubs.
RRF should be it's own faction. Agreed here.
- Biggest reason nowadays may be the lack of science ship options at tier 6 for Romulans.
I have a hard time believing this would be the BIGGEST reason.
I think when it comes down to it, people want the Romulans to feel more than what they are right now and Cryptic didn't deliver on that.
Agreed here.
"He shall be my finest warrior, this generic man who was forced upon me.
Like a badass I shall make him look, and in the furnace of war I shall forge him.
he shall be of iron will and steely sinew.
In great armour I shall clad him and with the mightiest weapons he shall be armed.
He will be untouched by plague or disease; no sickness shall blight him.
He shall have such tactics, strategies and machines that no foe will best him in battle.
He is my answer to cryptic logic, he is the Defender of my Romulan Crew.
He is Tovan Khev... and he shall know no fear."
Faction uniqueness is a first-class load of bull. All the factions are sub-factions, origin stories. The alliance is the real faction.
Some may want that, but I'm not one of them, make a Rom and KDF if you want to experience something different, and even if there's an alliance or cease fire or Republicans everywhere I'd like to see more faction uniqueness to 'get what we pay for.' STO was made with faction differences in mind from the start to entice players to also make KDF and Roms or equally enjoy the game if only playing KDF and/or Rom.
My KDF don't respond to SF power hierarchies, my Imperials don't give away technology and befriend everyone. In an MMORPG, the role play aspect matters, not just the gameplay itself.
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The alliance system should be expanded to a full 3-way alliance. It would solve so many problems and inequalities
I like your thinking. Make it so, Cryptic.
It's easier to say that making the Roms a full faction would solve these problems and perceptions of the Romulans. But to even become a full faction, it means Cryptic having to work on a faction extensively that isn't the Federation. Read on if you want the harsh examples of how Non-Fed faction development works.
One only needs to look at the continuously lagging development of the KDF & Roms as we get ready to move into 2016. Lagging behind in ships, especially Science, after more than 1 year of Delta Rising's release in October 2014 and the game approaches 6 years of age in Feb/Mar 2016. The original faction to have a Carrier in STO doesn't have one at T6 while the Feds do (the KDF/Vo'Quv). No visual revamps/improvements of the canon KDF & Rom ships that DID get converted to T6. I.e. the Negh'Var, D'D, B'Rel, Mogai, T'Varo did not get canon visual improvements like the Defiant, Galaxy, Galaxy-X, Akira, Intrepid, etc. did when they got their T6 versions. Cryptic killed Faction Specific Missions when LOR released back in the Summer of 2013. From LOR onwards, every mission with the exception of House Pegh, is Fed flavored. If I want, I can even go back to STO's launch days for more examples. In short, the picture is not good for more equality in faction development.
It was years of hell getting the KDF to where it is now and it was a launch faction that is behind the Feds. And people want the Roms to be a full faction also? I understand why, but realistically, never going to happen.
Sorry but the KDF and honor bull is all pure bull. If you see them in the shows, only one honorable is worf and that's cause he was raised by humans... Klingons talk about honor but they act like back stabbing political junkies to me.
Also the stories are all written for a fed character... even the klingon stories are all written for a goodie klingon (worlf clone). Breaks the moment you play a klingon that is not a worf clone... even more true if you play a Naus or Orion etc. Yeah like Honor means anything to them.
Roms I guess you can pass them off as writen in this game due to them not being Romulan Star Empire... but the half faction sort of kills it.
Sorry but the KDF and honor bull is all pure bull. If you see them in the shows, only one honorable is worf and that's cause he was raised by humans... Klingons talk about honor but they act like back stabbing political junkies to me.
Also the stories are all written for a fed character... even the klingon stories are all written for a goodie klingon (worlf clone). Breaks the moment you play a klingon that is not a worf clone... even more true if you play a Naus or Orion etc. Yeah like Honor means anything to them.
Roms I guess you can pass them off as writen in this game due to them not being Romulan Star Empire... but the half faction sort of kills it.
LOL, this narrow-minded example again?
Despite Star Trek having only Starfleet main characters, it never stopped game developers of the franchise to bring a multi-faction experience, storylines. Starfleet Command, Klingon Honor Guard, Birth of the Federation, etc. Other development teams that have done multi-faction Star Trek games have gone out of their way to flesh out the experience.
Your points have absolutely zero merit.
The simple truth remains that STO is a multi-faction game, and a multi-faction game is to be supported.
Sorry but the KDF and honor bull is all pure bull. If you see them in the shows, only one honorable is worf and that's cause he was raised by humans... Klingons talk about honor but they act like back stabbing political junkies to me.
Also the stories are all written for a fed character... even the klingon stories are all written for a goodie klingon (worlf clone). Breaks the moment you play a klingon that is not a worf clone... even more true if you play a Naus or Orion etc. Yeah like Honor means anything to them.
Roms I guess you can pass them off as writen in this game due to them not being Romulan Star Empire... but the half faction sort of kills it.
i would kill to be able to play for one mission a backstabbing romulan or brawler naus....a bit from the other side of the mirror would be so refreshing.
Despite Star Trek having only Starfleet main characters, it never stopped game developers of the franchise to bring a multi-faction experience, storylines. Starfleet Command, Klingon Honor Guard, Birth of the Federation, etc. Other development teams that have done multi-faction Star Trek games have gone out of their way to flesh out the experience.
Your points have absolutely zero merit.
The simple truth remains that STO is a multi-faction game, and a multi-faction game is to be supported.
About my reaction too.
"He shall be my finest warrior, this generic man who was forced upon me.
Like a badass I shall make him look, and in the furnace of war I shall forge him.
he shall be of iron will and steely sinew.
In great armour I shall clad him and with the mightiest weapons he shall be armed.
He will be untouched by plague or disease; no sickness shall blight him.
He shall have such tactics, strategies and machines that no foe will best him in battle.
He is my answer to cryptic logic, he is the Defender of my Romulan Crew.
He is Tovan Khev... and he shall know no fear."
More faction diversity and unique stories would be awesome, TRIBBLE this alliance and its IRL based lazy development origins. The game promises 3 factions, the devs can't/won't deliver then they need to publicly change their promises or hire more(or more capable) staff.
Star Trek = Federation and Everyone else I think he means.
If it was only the federation it would be boring.
Storywise the alliance is a good thing, a reason to get rid of the stupid teaming restrictions. But even within an alliance, the powers are looking out for their OWN interests.
My romulan works for the REPUBLIC, not for the federation, and as soon as RRF can ditch its game mechanic attatchment to Feds or KDF the better.
"He shall be my finest warrior, this generic man who was forced upon me.
Like a badass I shall make him look, and in the furnace of war I shall forge him.
he shall be of iron will and steely sinew.
In great armour I shall clad him and with the mightiest weapons he shall be armed.
He will be untouched by plague or disease; no sickness shall blight him.
He shall have such tactics, strategies and machines that no foe will best him in battle.
He is my answer to cryptic logic, he is the Defender of my Romulan Crew.
He is Tovan Khev... and he shall know no fear."
Star Trek = American awesomeness via a space adventure.
The fact that STO even has the idea that other cultures have their own awesomeness worth exploring is a step up because for all of the franchise's forward-looking rep it's steeped in second world war cultural myopia.
Actually faction distinct arcs die around the time you get to the Cardassians. You're no longer a Klingon, Nausicaan, Orion, Gorn, or Romulan. You're a Starfleet officer with no real ties to who you really are from that point forward.
Actually faction distinct arcs die around the time you get to the Cardassians. You're no longer a Klingon, Nausicaan, Orion, Gorn, or Romulan. You're a Starfleet officer with no real ties to who you really are from that point forward.
We need to have not just one storyline, but a multi path group of storylines, much of which would depend on the players faction, EACH one being expanded upon and not abandoned.
"He shall be my finest warrior, this generic man who was forced upon me.
Like a badass I shall make him look, and in the furnace of war I shall forge him.
he shall be of iron will and steely sinew.
In great armour I shall clad him and with the mightiest weapons he shall be armed.
He will be untouched by plague or disease; no sickness shall blight him.
He shall have such tactics, strategies and machines that no foe will best him in battle.
He is my answer to cryptic logic, he is the Defender of my Romulan Crew.
He is Tovan Khev... and he shall know no fear."
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-Nope didnt
-Even as the Empire... After Shinzon there was plenty of room for some reform within the RSE w/o going to the Rebel Alliance Romulan Republic extreme
-Im not a fan of his but he's hardly a reason to not make Romulan characters
-Yeah thats annoying
-Or even a cosmetic fleet project to make existing Fed/KDF Bases LOOK Romulan
-I dont think sci is, by itself, a big enough reason, just lack of ships in general
wat? thx for nothing, dumbass.
Ok that was a rom auto-hail on login. So what do you expect from peeps who have that dumb admirals. Ofc they had no chance even only against a clone of Picard let alone Spock lol...
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I have 2 Romulan/Federation toons, one around lvl 52 and the other lvl 60. I however do not use them much because I hate cannon builds with weak ships. I just can't seem to work with the Romulan ships for some reason. Unfortunately you can not use the Fed or KDF T6 ships either.
Not sure why people are in a rush for a new faction, as it will just end up as another minority to the Federation.
Sure, after the inevitable day one big ship bundle, 6 months later and they'll be in the same boat as the KDF and Romulan's only getting ship's so long as the Fed's do....
The alliance system should be expanded to a full 3-way alliance. It would solve so many problems and inequalities, including the Romulans' image as a "sub-faction."
Yes. Before admiralty that wasn't really an issue, because the Scimitar was and still is still the best and greatest, but now there's a distinct lack of volume in their admiralty deck especially for science.
Still in a fairly good mood over the new T'varo variants, but my Romulan Science alt has like forever been stuck in a ship that is in a lower tier, and never can be upgraded. There is a big hole at the top there, without going for one of those ship bundles I guess. Can't really buy three ships for every new one my main needs though.
I like your thinking. Make it so, Cryptic.
What? Roms only get their forced alliance's Tier 1-4 ships (free and C-Store), and are forced to use either DS9 or their alliance facilities for contraband and prisoner turn in (unless there are other locations I'm unaware of).
I don't know what you mean by a 3-way alliance, but by the sound of it I'm completely against it and it would further degrade whatever's left of faction uniqueness. I didn't grind/pay to end up with another Fed.
My character Tsin'xing
Just my rom sci makes me cry everytime...the lack of T6 rom sci ships is really a shame.
Not sure if it would be considered rep gear but look at the quest "Uneasy Allies". It's the first quest in the chain for iconian. It's a 3 piece Romulan Imperial Navy set, including armor, shield and career specific kit. Best part it's free. Just have to run it 3 times and choose a different piece.
Not sure how it stacks up against the other sets and haven't looked at it in a while, but who can argue with a free set.
http://sto.gamepedia.com/Romulan_Imperial_Navy
edit: fixed misquote and added wiki for set
It means exactly what it sounds like. That all the factions share everything like the Romulans do, except both ways.
Faction uniqueness is a first-class load of bull. All the factions are sub-factions, origin stories. The alliance is the real faction. Everyone does the same missions for the same NPCs and get the same rewards for completing them. Other than a few different lines of dialogue here and there, everyone even completes them in exactly the same way. Various arbitrary restrictions are just cramping our style and unbalancing the sub-factions.
PvP an issue??
Mustache twirling evil makes for boring villains.
I like Tovan Khev
Ok, this is an issue I'll agree
RRF should be it's own faction. Agreed here.
I have a hard time believing this would be the BIGGEST reason.
Agreed here.
"He shall be my finest warrior, this generic man who was forced upon me.
Like a badass I shall make him look, and in the furnace of war I shall forge him.
he shall be of iron will and steely sinew.
In great armour I shall clad him and with the mightiest weapons he shall be armed.
He will be untouched by plague or disease; no sickness shall blight him.
He shall have such tactics, strategies and machines that no foe will best him in battle.
He is my answer to cryptic logic, he is the Defender of my Romulan Crew.
He is Tovan Khev... and he shall know no fear."
Good set, so much so that I still use it on most alts. It's not rep, and it does not come with any visuals whatsoever, and anyone can use it.
Some may want that, but I'm not one of them, make a Rom and KDF if you want to experience something different, and even if there's an alliance or cease fire or Republicans everywhere I'd like to see more faction uniqueness to 'get what we pay for.' STO was made with faction differences in mind from the start to entice players to also make KDF and Roms or equally enjoy the game if only playing KDF and/or Rom.
My KDF don't respond to SF power hierarchies, my Imperials don't give away technology and befriend everyone. In an MMORPG, the role play aspect matters, not just the gameplay itself.
It's easier to say that making the Roms a full faction would solve these problems and perceptions of the Romulans. But to even become a full faction, it means Cryptic having to work on a faction extensively that isn't the Federation. Read on if you want the harsh examples of how Non-Fed faction development works.
It was years of hell getting the KDF to where it is now and it was a launch faction that is behind the Feds. And people want the Roms to be a full faction also? I understand why, but realistically, never going to happen.
Sorry but the KDF and honor bull is all pure bull. If you see them in the shows, only one honorable is worf and that's cause he was raised by humans... Klingons talk about honor but they act like back stabbing political junkies to me.
Also the stories are all written for a fed character... even the klingon stories are all written for a goodie klingon (worlf clone). Breaks the moment you play a klingon that is not a worf clone... even more true if you play a Naus or Orion etc. Yeah like Honor means anything to them.
Roms I guess you can pass them off as writen in this game due to them not being Romulan Star Empire... but the half faction sort of kills it.
LOL, this narrow-minded example again?
Despite Star Trek having only Starfleet main characters, it never stopped game developers of the franchise to bring a multi-faction experience, storylines. Starfleet Command, Klingon Honor Guard, Birth of the Federation, etc. Other development teams that have done multi-faction Star Trek games have gone out of their way to flesh out the experience.
Your points have absolutely zero merit.
The simple truth remains that STO is a multi-faction game, and a multi-faction game is to be supported.
i would kill to be able to play for one mission a backstabbing romulan or brawler naus....a bit from the other side of the mirror would be so refreshing.
About my reaction too.
"He shall be my finest warrior, this generic man who was forced upon me.
Like a badass I shall make him look, and in the furnace of war I shall forge him.
he shall be of iron will and steely sinew.
In great armour I shall clad him and with the mightiest weapons he shall be armed.
He will be untouched by plague or disease; no sickness shall blight him.
He shall have such tactics, strategies and machines that no foe will best him in battle.
He is my answer to cryptic logic, he is the Defender of my Romulan Crew.
He is Tovan Khev... and he shall know no fear."
Thank you for alerting everyone to your status as an idiot to be ignored.
If it was only the federation it would be boring.
Storywise the alliance is a good thing, a reason to get rid of the stupid teaming restrictions. But even within an alliance, the powers are looking out for their OWN interests.
My romulan works for the REPUBLIC, not for the federation, and as soon as RRF can ditch its game mechanic attatchment to Feds or KDF the better.
"He shall be my finest warrior, this generic man who was forced upon me.
Like a badass I shall make him look, and in the furnace of war I shall forge him.
he shall be of iron will and steely sinew.
In great armour I shall clad him and with the mightiest weapons he shall be armed.
He will be untouched by plague or disease; no sickness shall blight him.
He shall have such tactics, strategies and machines that no foe will best him in battle.
He is my answer to cryptic logic, he is the Defender of my Romulan Crew.
He is Tovan Khev... and he shall know no fear."
Star Trek = American awesomeness via a space adventure.
The fact that STO even has the idea that other cultures have their own awesomeness worth exploring is a step up because for all of the franchise's forward-looking rep it's steeped in second world war cultural myopia.
We need to have not just one storyline, but a multi path group of storylines, much of which would depend on the players faction, EACH one being expanded upon and not abandoned.
"He shall be my finest warrior, this generic man who was forced upon me.
Like a badass I shall make him look, and in the furnace of war I shall forge him.
he shall be of iron will and steely sinew.
In great armour I shall clad him and with the mightiest weapons he shall be armed.
He will be untouched by plague or disease; no sickness shall blight him.
He shall have such tactics, strategies and machines that no foe will best him in battle.
He is my answer to cryptic logic, he is the Defender of my Romulan Crew.
He is Tovan Khev... and he shall know no fear."