shouldn't there be a lot more romulan players?the reason i ask is because there is a big chunk of story that you even play has a fed but makes a lot more since if you play has a romulan. you bump into npc that you have known from start of game.then there are npc that you have been looking for in one of the major story arks that has a fed you just pass by. i must say i haven't enjoyed this game this much since game lunched
There are a lot of Romulans around. You just don't see them. They've got cloaks !
And obviously it's not for the lack of incentives to create a Rom char. Scimitard, superior space traits and so on.
I don't know why other players prefer other factions, but here are mine:
First: TRIBBLE JJ Trek story involving a certain Tovan Khev.
Second: No full faction, just this lame apendix to Fed/KDF.
I'm sorry, let me make this clear.......BILLIONS OF ROMULANS DIED! How can you even expect a full faction when their own numbers of their own xeno-phobic culture are so low! Billions don't recover from a few million in a couple of decades! I have Roms on both sides, and they are certainly far from a lame appendix! Also remember that it's barely been a year in game time since LoR was launched (longer in real-time). I very much doubt after a few months of inner conflict that resentment, anger et all is going to just vanish. The Romulan Star Empire is over until it can reunite in a timely manner, not a rushed 'guns at dawn' job that you apparently want. It would take a full season probably just to integrate this in, oh then the coding because of the Fed/KDF sidings etc etc. And what of the Roms that want to remain Fed or KDF, obviously you haven't even considered that!
"You don't want to patrol!? You don't want to escort!? You don't want to defend the Federation's Starbases!? Then why are you flying my Starships!? If you were a Klingon you'd be killed on the spot, but lucky for you.....you WERE in Starfleet. Let's see how New Zealand Penal Colony suits you." Adm A. Necheyev.
I'm actually thinking of starting a new Romulan, or maybe Reman and making him my main. Getting a bit bored of my Fed toons now.
I could just start playing my current rommies, but they are so far out of date with reps and such and poorly spec'ed that it is just as easy to start over.
Well excuse me for having enormous flaws that I don't work on.
They should join the factions so everyone gets all the stuff and only the storyline is different based on where you start.
Things would be much more even, then.
That's pretty much how it is already. Once the initial story is out of the way, everything new is generic, and I hate the fact that Cryptic did that.
No it isn't. Only Romulans get any allied faction stuff, even they only get it from one of the other factions and tier 5-6 ships are excluded completely.
Your science rant however has nothing to do with the popularity of the Romulan faction. I understand the want for more science buffs and all, because I love Science Vessels and Science Captains, but this is just a thinly veiled attempt to co-opt the topic.
I would disagree. I would argue that the lack in Science Ships not just for the Republic, but Imperials as well contributes to the reason fewer people play them.
Suliban or Acamarians are obscure races the majority of players do not really care about.
I wasn't aware you spoke for the majority of players. I would actually think that if the Suliban were created for the Republic, you'd suddenly see a lot of them running about. What the Republic needs, at least, one of the things I feel it needs is a little more variety where playable characters are concerned. We're presently limited to what, four? Hell, a Republic player can't even choose to be a Talaxian, and yet Feds and KDF can?
The truth is probably that the single race that would help - if any race at all - the factions would be giving every faction the human race. But event hat is doubtful, you can fake pretty much anything with Alien.
Some people don't like playing as an alien, and would rather play an actual species. It might just be a name thing to you, but to others, it means more than that.
And then you come up with something even less relevant for the lack of popularity of faction, like contraband officers at their home world. That's like saying people don't play all Fed and still play Rom because their Duty Officer recruitments is not in their primary home world map with the bridge officer trainer, skill trainer, ship selector, ship requisitions and ship costume designer. Omega Reputation set? By the time you get to reputations sets, you already bought into the Romulan faction.
What about players who play whilst RP'ing? What about people who play their Romulan/Reman character, and want to stay as far away from Earth and/or Qo'nos as they can? They can't. If they want those data chips they must go to their alliance headquaters, same for contraband (unless they jump over to the Alpha Quadrant and visit DS9, but they're still speaking to a FED/KDF officer).
I think the real problems of the Romulan (and) Klingon faction is that the entire franchise has been build around humans in space - with the odd alien in the mix. Klingon and Romulans only retain some popularity because at least they were antagonists. It's almost amazing the Romulans are as popular as they are (as little as it may seem), because the TV and movie material does almost nothing to go into their culture and create something to identify with.
On this, I'll agree with you, however it was Cryptic's decision to go ahead with them, and it should be their responsibility to keep on top of them. Instead they released a hackjob of a faction, and they aren't taking care of it.
...and to think, people want Cardassians next, knowing full well they're going to suffer the same fate. Q help us.
Your science rant however has nothing to do with the popularity of the Romulan faction. I understand the want for more science buffs and all, because I love Science Vessels and Science Captains, but this is just a thinly veiled attempt to co-opt the topic.
I would disagree. I would argue that the lack in Science Ships not just for the Republic, but Imperials as well contributes to the reason fewer people play them.
Suliban or Acamarians are obscure races the majority of players do not really care about.
I wasn't aware you spoke for the majority of players. I would actually think that if the Suliban were created for the Republic, you'd suddenly see a lot of them running about. What the Republic needs, at least, one of the things I feel it needs is a little more variety where playable characters are concerned. We're presently limited to what, four? Hell, a Republic player can't even choose to be a Talaxian, and yet Feds and KDF can?
The truth is probably that the single race that would help - if any race at all - the factions would be giving every faction the human race. But event hat is doubtful, you can fake pretty much anything with Alien.
Some people don't like playing as an alien, and would rather play an actual species. It might just be a name thing to you, but to others, it means more than that.
And then you come up with something even less relevant for the lack of popularity of faction, like contraband officers at their home world. That's like saying people don't play all Fed and still play Rom because their Duty Officer recruitments is not in their primary home world map with the bridge officer trainer, skill trainer, ship selector, ship requisitions and ship costume designer. Omega Reputation set? By the time you get to reputations sets, you already bought into the Romulan faction.
What about players who play whilst RP'ing? What about people who play their Romulan/Reman character, and want to stay as far away from Earth and/or Qo'nos as they can? They can't. If they want those data chips they must go to their alliance headquaters, same for contraband (unless they jump over to the Alpha Quadrant and visit DS9, but they're still speaking to a FED/KDF officer).
I think the real problems of the Romulan (and) Klingon faction is that the entire franchise has been build around humans in space - with the odd alien in the mix. Klingon and Romulans only retain some popularity because at least they were antagonists. It's almost amazing the Romulans are as popular as they are (as little as it may seem), because the TV and movie material does almost nothing to go into their culture and create something to identify with.
On this, I'll agree with you, however it was Cryptic's decision to go ahead with them, and it should be their responsibility to keep on top of them. Instead they released a hackjob of a faction, and they aren't taking care of it.
...and to think, people want Cardassians next, knowing full well they're going to suffer the same fate. Q help us.
I would assume that the next big 'expansion' that would feature a faction is beyond no reasonable doubt. It's going to be the Dominion. You have a plethora of new species to play as there. The Cardassians will not likely become a full faction as like the Romulans, as they too lost alot of people, and certain Treaties are in place preventing such a military build-up in the first place! The Dominion, on the other hand, can do virtually as they wish in the Gamma Quadrant.
"You don't want to patrol!? You don't want to escort!? You don't want to defend the Federation's Starbases!? Then why are you flying my Starships!? If you were a Klingon you'd be killed on the spot, but lucky for you.....you WERE in Starfleet. Let's see how New Zealand Penal Colony suits you." Adm A. Necheyev.
I would assume that the next big 'expansion' that would feature a faction is beyond no reasonable doubt. It's going to be the Dominion. You have a plethora of new species to play as there. The Cardassians will not likely become a full faction as like the Romulans, as they too lost alot of people, and certain Treaties are in place preventing such a military build-up in the first place! The Dominion, on the other hand, can do virtually as they wish in the Gamma Quadrant.
I think there's a surprise waiting in store for you.
I bet you a set of fleet ship modules that we'll see playable Cardassians before we see playable Dominion.
The Romulans are worse losers; they lost their homeworld, at least the Cardassians didn't lose that.
In all seriousness, I would have preferred having the Cardassians over the Romulans, but then the Romulans came first. That said, knowing how the Romulans are now, I wouldn't wish that treatment on the Cardassians, or any other faction/fraction.
I'd be surprised if there's as few Romulans around as the OP thinks, I'd bet that a lot of them use non-factional ships for one thing (their loss, Romulan ships are by far the prettiest in the game and kick large volumes of donkey).
That being said, I'd imagine that most folk have at least a Romulan/Reman Alt in their roster, but with the post-DR changes a significant number may not use them as often as they once did and stick to a few of their original characters. A lot of folk might only have made one to play through the Romulan missions for that matter.
Your Science Rant however has nothing to do with the popularity of the Romulan faction. I understand the want for more science buffs and all, because I love Science Vessels and Science Captains, but this is just a thinly veiled attempt to co-opt the topic.
Oh did someone say SCIENCE RANT?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmH7tAJ0SfA
"He shall be my finest warrior, this generic man who was forced upon me.
Like a badass I shall make him look, and in the furnace of war I shall forge him.
he shall be of iron will and steely sinew.
In great armour I shall clad him and with the mightiest weapons he shall be armed.
He will be untouched by plague or disease; no sickness shall blight him.
He shall have such tactics, strategies and machines that no foe will best him in battle.
He is my answer to cryptic logic, he is the Defender of my Romulan Crew.
He is Tovan Khev... and he shall know no fear."
The Romulan Star Empire... also took heavily from the Dark Elves of D&D, being an "evil" offshoot of the normal "Elven" (or Vulcan, in this case) race that was very much there opposite.
It's amazing how writers in the 1960s were able to take inspiration from a game not invented until the mid-1970s which didn't get really popular until the 1980s.
huh, Romulans and their culture mostly appeared in TNG, which took PLACE in the 80's.,odd, i wonder....
Romulans have for me the most powerfuls races, BOFFs, storyline and ships but there are several reasons why I don't play them a lot :
- The Scimatar : It is the best high end romulan ship. Problem, everyone get it and I don't like to have the same ship than everyone else.
- Battle cloack : Battle cloack is one of the reason why I would play Romulan but the main problem are the shields. They are directly down while you still have incoming fire, and that can be deadly (and boring).
- Romulan race : you can't really customize it a lot. A romulan face is similar to any other romulan face.
- Singularity warp core : that thing is annoying me. I don't like to have to choose between power or abilities.
- Admiralty : well that's new but Romulans have mostly tacticals ships, which is very annoying.
I am from Belgium and english isn't my main language, sorry if I make mistakes.
ahh threads like this make me miss protogoth's mile long rants... we really need her unbanned
also.... spoonheads(cardassians) SUCK BALLS :P Trek writers threw any and all decent development material that SHOULD have been Romulan and gave it to the Obsidian Order >.<
More seriously tho... ToS Romulans were not supposed to be USSR that was the Klingons, ToS Romulans were a poor combination of Imperial Rome and Communist China. Yet in their 2 episodes there were far more interesting than Cardassians ever really got to me. I was so psyched when STO announced the LoR and 'March Beneath the Raptor's Wing" slogan... then I got... the general plot of the original star wars trilogy... my empire turned into snidely whiplash clones... the worst character to ever grace TNG as "Empress"... and several other pieces of garbage.
Its the best written plot in STO but its hardly a good Romulan one IMO *cue up the RR white knights and Diane Duane fans*
I play my Romulan, she is currently in the Delta Quadrant working on the Delta Arc. You usually will see her in the D'Deridex flying around.
To me the biggest let down on Romulan:
* Story, this is the biggest issue. Lot of the stories don't even match up for Romulan. Just don't copy/paste the story to the other factions. This just makes it really crappy.
* Lack of ships for the main builds. Eng, Tac and Sci.
* Lack of Bridge Options.
* Lack of outfits. I would love more outfits. We still don't have the Fed skirt from the Fed/KDF choice wall paper.
USS Casinghead NCC 92047 launched 2350
Fleet Admiral Stowe - Dominion War Vet.
The main reason I don't play as a Romulan is because they are nothing more than Humans with pointy ears, as are their Vulcan brethren. Bajorans are just Humans with wrinkled noses. Klingons are just Humans with lobsters on their heads. Orions are just Humans with green skin.
This is the reason why I prefer Gorn and Caitians/Ferasans. At least they are NOT humans.
That said, I do play on Rommyside. But that character is an Alien, and I went to great lengths to make him look like as NOT-Human as possible.
I have 3 Romulans out of like.. 7-8 characters? 1 of said Romulans is definitely one of my favorite ones.
"He shall be my finest warrior, this generic man who was forced upon me.
Like a badass I shall make him look, and in the furnace of war I shall forge him.
he shall be of iron will and steely sinew.
In great armour I shall clad him and with the mightiest weapons he shall be armed.
He will be untouched by plague or disease; no sickness shall blight him.
He shall have such tactics, strategies and machines that no foe will best him in battle.
He is my answer to cryptic logic, he is the Defender of my Romulan Crew.
He is Tovan Khev... and he shall know no fear."
heh, I have 2 Romulans, a Reman, and a Rom-Kobali :P Gorn, Ferasan, Caitian and Vulcan :P
out of that I play my 2 Romulans and Gorn regularly lol and my lv60s are my Roms, Reman, Gorn and Ferasan lol
There out there, they just like to stay cloaked is all.
Seeing that they are a sub-faction, I know of a few that feel they are a waste of time as you end up going fed/kdf anyway, which is too bad because that's not entirely true.
Hopefully they'll have more ship options soon to open up more options for them.
Retired. I'm now in search for that perfect space anomaly.
There have been many reasons spouted on why there aren't more Romulan characters that are being created.
- The alliance system. People wanted a separate faction that would enable three way PvP.
- Wanting to play the Romulan Star Empire based on what they see from the shows. They want to be the sneaks not the buddy buddy Romulans.
- Tovan Khev being a permanent addition to your crew and ruining chances of customizing your bridge officers to your heart's true desire (like an all female crew).
- Not enough customization with ship parts available without unlocking from the C-store. One standard bridge for every ship that's not the Scimitar.
- Those who do play Romulans see a lack of things that could make Romulans feel like their own faction, like Romulan looking Starbases and a security officer for turning in contraband like at other faction hubs.
- Biggest reason nowadays may be the lack of science ship options at tier 6 for Romulans.
I think when it comes down to it, people want the Romulans to feel more than what they are right now and Cryptic didn't deliver on that.
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I'm sorry, let me make this clear.......BILLIONS OF ROMULANS DIED! How can you even expect a full faction when their own numbers of their own xeno-phobic culture are so low! Billions don't recover from a few million in a couple of decades! I have Roms on both sides, and they are certainly far from a lame appendix! Also remember that it's barely been a year in game time since LoR was launched (longer in real-time). I very much doubt after a few months of inner conflict that resentment, anger et all is going to just vanish. The Romulan Star Empire is over until it can reunite in a timely manner, not a rushed 'guns at dawn' job that you apparently want. It would take a full season probably just to integrate this in, oh then the coding because of the Fed/KDF sidings etc etc. And what of the Roms that want to remain Fed or KDF, obviously you haven't even considered that!
I could just start playing my current rommies, but they are so far out of date with reps and such and poorly spec'ed that it is just as easy to start over.
No it isn't. Only Romulans get any allied faction stuff, even they only get it from one of the other factions and tier 5-6 ships are excluded completely.
I wasn't aware you spoke for the majority of players. I would actually think that if the Suliban were created for the Republic, you'd suddenly see a lot of them running about. What the Republic needs, at least, one of the things I feel it needs is a little more variety where playable characters are concerned. We're presently limited to what, four? Hell, a Republic player can't even choose to be a Talaxian, and yet Feds and KDF can?
Some people don't like playing as an alien, and would rather play an actual species. It might just be a name thing to you, but to others, it means more than that.
What about players who play whilst RP'ing? What about people who play their Romulan/Reman character, and want to stay as far away from Earth and/or Qo'nos as they can? They can't. If they want those data chips they must go to their alliance headquaters, same for contraband (unless they jump over to the Alpha Quadrant and visit DS9, but they're still speaking to a FED/KDF officer).
On this, I'll agree with you, however it was Cryptic's decision to go ahead with them, and it should be their responsibility to keep on top of them. Instead they released a hackjob of a faction, and they aren't taking care of it.
...and to think, people want Cardassians next, knowing full well they're going to suffer the same fate. Q help us.
I would assume that the next big 'expansion' that would feature a faction is beyond no reasonable doubt. It's going to be the Dominion. You have a plethora of new species to play as there. The Cardassians will not likely become a full faction as like the Romulans, as they too lost alot of people, and certain Treaties are in place preventing such a military build-up in the first place! The Dominion, on the other hand, can do virtually as they wish in the Gamma Quadrant.
I bet you a set of fleet ship modules that we'll see playable Cardassians before we see playable Dominion.
My character Tsin'xing
In all seriousness, I would have preferred having the Cardassians over the Romulans, but then the Romulans came first. That said, knowing how the Romulans are now, I wouldn't wish that treatment on the Cardassians, or any other faction/fraction.
That being said, I'd imagine that most folk have at least a Romulan/Reman Alt in their roster, but with the post-DR changes a significant number may not use them as often as they once did and stick to a few of their original characters. A lot of folk might only have made one to play through the Romulan missions for that matter.
Oh did someone say SCIENCE RANT?
"He shall be my finest warrior, this generic man who was forced upon me.
Like a badass I shall make him look, and in the furnace of war I shall forge him.
he shall be of iron will and steely sinew.
In great armour I shall clad him and with the mightiest weapons he shall be armed.
He will be untouched by plague or disease; no sickness shall blight him.
He shall have such tactics, strategies and machines that no foe will best him in battle.
He is my answer to cryptic logic, he is the Defender of my Romulan Crew.
He is Tovan Khev... and he shall know no fear."
huh, Romulans and their culture mostly appeared in TNG, which took PLACE in the 80's.,odd, i wonder....
- The Scimatar : It is the best high end romulan ship. Problem, everyone get it and I don't like to have the same ship than everyone else.
- Battle cloack : Battle cloack is one of the reason why I would play Romulan but the main problem are the shields. They are directly down while you still have incoming fire, and that can be deadly (and boring).
- Romulan race : you can't really customize it a lot. A romulan face is similar to any other romulan face.
- Singularity warp core : that thing is annoying me. I don't like to have to choose between power or abilities.
- Admiralty : well that's new but Romulans have mostly tacticals ships, which is very annoying.
also.... spoonheads(cardassians) SUCK BALLS :P Trek writers threw any and all decent development material that SHOULD have been Romulan and gave it to the Obsidian Order >.<
More seriously tho... ToS Romulans were not supposed to be USSR that was the Klingons, ToS Romulans were a poor combination of Imperial Rome and Communist China. Yet in their 2 episodes there were far more interesting than Cardassians ever really got to me. I was so psyched when STO announced the LoR and 'March Beneath the Raptor's Wing" slogan... then I got... the general plot of the original star wars trilogy... my empire turned into snidely whiplash clones... the worst character to ever grace TNG as "Empress"... and several other pieces of garbage.
Its the best written plot in STO but its hardly a good Romulan one IMO *cue up the RR white knights and Diane Duane fans*
My character Tsin'xing
To me the biggest let down on Romulan:
* Story, this is the biggest issue. Lot of the stories don't even match up for Romulan. Just don't copy/paste the story to the other factions. This just makes it really crappy.
* Lack of ships for the main builds. Eng, Tac and Sci.
* Lack of Bridge Options.
* Lack of outfits. I would love more outfits. We still don't have the Fed skirt from the Fed/KDF choice wall paper.
USS Casinghead NCC 92047 launched 2350
Fleet Admiral Stowe - Dominion War Vet.
This is the reason why I prefer Gorn and Caitians/Ferasans. At least they are NOT humans.
That said, I do play on Rommyside. But that character is an Alien, and I went to great lengths to make him look like as NOT-Human as possible.
My Ship Builds: USS Conqueror, HMS Victorious, HMS Concord, ISS Queen Elizabeth, Black Widow III
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My Ship Builds: USS Conqueror, HMS Victorious, HMS Concord, ISS Queen Elizabeth, Black Widow III
Click here to view my DeviantArt.
Praetor of the -RTS- Romulan Tal Shiar fleet!
"He shall be my finest warrior, this generic man who was forced upon me.
Like a badass I shall make him look, and in the furnace of war I shall forge him.
he shall be of iron will and steely sinew.
In great armour I shall clad him and with the mightiest weapons he shall be armed.
He will be untouched by plague or disease; no sickness shall blight him.
He shall have such tactics, strategies and machines that no foe will best him in battle.
He is my answer to cryptic logic, he is the Defender of my Romulan Crew.
He is Tovan Khev... and he shall know no fear."
out of that I play my 2 Romulans and Gorn regularly lol and my lv60s are my Roms, Reman, Gorn and Ferasan lol
Seeing that they are a sub-faction, I know of a few that feel they are a waste of time as you end up going fed/kdf anyway, which is too bad because that's not entirely true.
Hopefully they'll have more ship options soon to open up more options for them.
- The alliance system. People wanted a separate faction that would enable three way PvP.
- Wanting to play the Romulan Star Empire based on what they see from the shows. They want to be the sneaks not the buddy buddy Romulans.
- Tovan Khev being a permanent addition to your crew and ruining chances of customizing your bridge officers to your heart's true desire (like an all female crew).
- Not enough customization with ship parts available without unlocking from the C-store. One standard bridge for every ship that's not the Scimitar.
- Those who do play Romulans see a lack of things that could make Romulans feel like their own faction, like Romulan looking Starbases and a security officer for turning in contraband like at other faction hubs.
- Biggest reason nowadays may be the lack of science ship options at tier 6 for Romulans.
I think when it comes down to it, people want the Romulans to feel more than what they are right now and Cryptic didn't deliver on that.