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  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    One thing to consider: Next year is the 50 year Star Trek Anniversary and the 6 year STO anniversary... Could be that the flagships will be released then, as an event reward?
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  • nickcastletonnickcastleton Member Posts: 1,212 Arc User
    One thing to consider: Next year is the 50 year Star Trek Anniversary and the 6 year STO anniversary... Could be that the flagships will be released then, as an event reward?
    but cryptic wont make money if its an event reward.
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  • pwridiotspwridiots Member Posts: 58 Arc User
    caylenr wrote: »
    The Enterprise is obviously on a critical mission performing sensor sweeps of the Neutral Zone in case the Romulans try to take advantage of the situation.

    Let's just say that her captain has previous experience with the Iconians and Starfleet is reluctant to put him or her in a position where he or she might be vulnerable to their influence.

    Lawl THIS is funny.

    In all honesty, new ship parts: "After extensive time in combat, deep space exploration and other different mission sets, Utopia Planatia have come up with modular variations to the existing Odyssey superstructure in order to fulfill the requirements of commanding officers."

    Fleet version, that's what needs to be done. Just one going 4/4/4. Why?

    It's the flagship of the fleet. Period. FLAG. SHIP. It's the testament to everyone that meets her, "Holy TRIBBLE. We were going to attack them. We were going to negotiate for a better deal. Now? Uh uh."

    Give her better hull and shields, make her faster in a straight line, but then add that weight and extra mass to her turning and inertia. Make her a true whale. If people want to run DBBs then they need to give up some of those consoles for RCSs.

    Oh, and hangar. In all honesty, every ship should be able to hangar a wing of shuttles. If I were a captain? I'd send out shuttles all day.

    Just my 0.02 EC.
  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    One thing to consider: Next year is the 50 year Star Trek Anniversary and the 6 year STO anniversary... Could be that the flagships will be released then, as an event reward?
    but cryptic wont make money if its an event reward.
    I think they do. Events are for player retention. Players log in regularly to earn their event rewards.

    If they weren't good for business, Cryptic wouldn't give away "free" ships.​​
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  • koraheaglecrykoraheaglecry Member Posts: 250 Arc User
    pwridiots wrote: »
    caylenr wrote: »
    The Enterprise is obviously on a critical mission performing sensor sweeps of the Neutral Zone in case the Romulans try to take advantage of the situation.

    Let's just say that her captain has previous experience with the Iconians and Starfleet is reluctant to put him or her in a position where he or she might be vulnerable to their influence.

    Lawl THIS is funny.

    In all honesty, new ship parts: "After extensive time in combat, deep space exploration and other different mission sets, Utopia Planatia have come up with modular variations to the existing Odyssey superstructure in order to fulfill the requirements of commanding officers."

    Fleet version, that's what needs to be done. Just one going 4/4/4. Why?

    It's the flagship of the fleet. Period. FLAG. SHIP. It's the testament to everyone that meets her, "Holy TRIBBLE. We were going to attack them. We were going to negotiate for a better deal. Now? Uh uh."

    Give her better hull and shields, make her faster in a straight line, but then add that weight and extra mass to her turning and inertia. Make her a true whale. If people want to run DBBs then they need to give up some of those consoles for RCSs.

    Oh, and hangar. In all honesty, every ship should be able to hangar a wing of shuttles. If I were a captain? I'd send out shuttles all day.

    Just my 0.02 EC.

    The Enterprise is the Flagship. Not every Odyssey in the fleet. And by Flagship they simply mean the most visible and reflective of the Factions honor, ideals and so forth. It doesnt make it more powerful or invulnerable then any other ship out there. The Ent-E was one of what two Enterprises that didnt go boom?
  • fxdfbxcgxfbcfxdfbxcgxfbc Member Posts: 9 Arc User
    All I know is I would charge for zen for a t6 Oddy.

    Ideally I would love one with a hanger, but with command and the updated dreads getting that, I have little hope.

    Maybe an Integrated Frigate/Escort?

    Or one with one Commander engi/command, LtC Science, LtC Tac?

    I think I must be one of the very few that like Chevron Separation or Command abilities.

    OH! Maybe a trait that gives bonuses; like bonus defense on Strategic, minor FBP on Shield Modulation, based on your cruiser command? Never flown a Scimitar so not sure how that ship might interfere with that kind of trait.
  • raj011raj011 Member Posts: 987 Arc User
    Read this, it mentions "that command has special plans for the Odyssey" or Odyssey class. Even though it is only a guess at the moment, http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/9592463. Paragraph 15.
  • ronanobrienronanobrien Member Posts: 117 Arc User
    One thing to consider: Next year is the 50 year Star Trek Anniversary and the 6 year STO anniversary... Could be that the flagships will be released then, as an event reward?
    but cryptic wont make money if its an event reward.

    That technically isn't true, or they wouldn't have ships as event rewards. Besides, a game has to focus on more than just making money or they would alienate the player base that GETS them the money. So in all technicalities, a ship as an event reward DOES make them money as it would result in more people playing the game for the ship, and if those people see something that they would want on the cash store, they would likely buy that and it would be all the more profitable to give away an item (ship here) like that while running a sale on another item in the cash store (like for example, they have the global event going on for the bonus rewards and currently have the Galaxy Dreadnought and Hestia as featured ships, thus people are working up for the rewards for this event, but they see the Hestia and the Galaxy Dreadnought featured in the game and might think, "Oh, that's a cool ship, I want that!" and buy it. Thus, event giveaways DO in the long run make them money. Simple economics, really.)
  • ronanobrienronanobrien Member Posts: 117 Arc User
    raj011 wrote: »
    Read this, it mentions "that command has special plans for the Odyssey" or Odyssey class. Even though it is only a guess at the moment, http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/9592463. Paragraph 15.

    If Cryptic wanted to make a profit with this ship, I really think that the "special plans" are giving it out for an event, whether that be for the Winter Event or the 50th anniversary event or even the 6th anniversary event. If they do this, they should run a 20% off sale for all items in the C-Store, not just ships. That way, they can make this whole thing HUGELY profitable, as then everyone would probably get that ship or that extra few ship slots that they wanted, but just didn't want to get them unless they were on sale.

    And everybody loves a sale.
  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    reyan01 wrote: »

    And so far as Enterprise's go (and not counting non-canon sources):
    NX-01: Preserved and on dispaly in Fleet Museum
    1701: Autodestructed above Genesis planet
    1701-A: Fate unknown
    1701-B: Fate unknown
    1701-C: Destroyed defending Narendra III from Romulan attack
    1701-D: Destroyed by Riker forgetting how to command a ship
    1701-E: STO timeline - destroyed. Otherwise not known

    Besides which, the Enterprise didn't generally remain the pinacle of Starfleet technology for long, with Starfleet producing newer, better, ships - such is progression.

    And fuel for the fire, of the various USS Enterprise lost in action, the B'Rel BOP had roles to play in 2 of the 3 known, canon losses >:)

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  • talonxvtalonxv Member Posts: 4,257 Arc User
    How bout the fact that the Odyssey star cruiser and Bortas were given away for free on the 2nd year anniversary. Not the Zen ones but free give away ones.

    would be nice to have a tier 6 version.
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  • khan5000khan5000 Member Posts: 3,008 Arc User
    reyan01 wrote: »
    pwridiots wrote: »
    caylenr wrote: »
    The Enterprise is obviously on a critical mission performing sensor sweeps of the Neutral Zone in case the Romulans try to take advantage of the situation.

    Let's just say that her captain has previous experience with the Iconians and Starfleet is reluctant to put him or her in a position where he or she might be vulnerable to their influence.

    Lawl THIS is funny.

    In all honesty, new ship parts: "After extensive time in combat, deep space exploration and other different mission sets, Utopia Planatia have come up with modular variations to the existing Odyssey superstructure in order to fulfill the requirements of commanding officers."

    Fleet version, that's what needs to be done. Just one going 4/4/4. Why?

    It's the flagship of the fleet. Period. FLAG. SHIP. It's the testament to everyone that meets her, "Holy TRIBBLE. We were going to attack them. We were going to negotiate for a better deal. Now? Uh uh."

    Give her better hull and shields, make her faster in a straight line, but then add that weight and extra mass to her turning and inertia. Make her a true whale. If people want to run DBBs then they need to give up some of those consoles for RCSs.

    Oh, and hangar. In all honesty, every ship should be able to hangar a wing of shuttles. If I were a captain? I'd send out shuttles all day.

    Just my 0.02 EC.

    You may have missed the portion of 'Broken Circle' when, upon leaving the Herald Sphere, the wrecked hulls of several Odyssey class ships are floating amongst the debris.

    The Enterprise is the Flagship. Not every Odyssey in the fleet. And by Flagship they simply mean the most visible and reflective of the Factions honor, ideals and so forth. It doesnt make it more powerful or invulnerable then any other ship out there. The Ent-E was one of what two Enterprises that didnt go boom?

    Agreed - although it's probably worth noting that there was never any evidence to suggest that any Enterprise that preceeded the Enterprise-D was referred to as a 'Flagship'; and it's pretty difficult to find much reference to the 'E' being referred to as the flagship.

    And so far as Enterprise's go (and not counting non-canon sources):
    NX-01: Preserved and on dispaly in Fleet Museum
    1701: Autodestructed above Genesis planet
    1701-A: Fate unknown
    1701-B: Fate unknown
    1701-C: Destroyed defending Narendra III from Romulan attack
    1701-D: Destroyed by Riker forgetting how to command a ship
    1701-E: STO timeline - destroyed. Otherwise not known

    Besides which, the Enterprise didn't generally remain the pinacle of Starfleet technology for long, with Starfleet producing newer, better, ships - such is progression.

    The database at Startrek.com lists the E as the flagship
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  • jqscotlandjqscotland Member Posts: 5 Arc User
    T6 Odyesey should be a priority, please please keep the bridge layout. In addition similar setup as the intrepid mess hall, a better neck design in addition plus meeting room etc. especially as we are paying for the T6 versions with Zen.
  • transcendationtranscendation Member Posts: 9 Arc User
    i think the T6 oddy should have a 4/4/4 console layout tho :) + a hangar bay
  • mewmaster101mewmaster101 Member Posts: 1,239 Arc User
    papesh1 wrote: »
    I love the promo material showing the Odyssey/Enterprise leading the charge.

    http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/9213973-delta-recruitment-week-4%21


    When is she going to be updated? I doubt Starfleet would send its flagship in underpowered. She deserves some costume options, Command or Intel Abilities, and a Hanger to name a few. This is the current class of the Enterprise, the Flagship of Starfleet. Stop toying with us, Cryptic.

    actually, the "Flagship" being not the most powerful ship by the end of teh series is pretty common in Star Trek. Neither the oriignal or the -D were the most powerful ships in the fleet by the end of the series. It just so happens that the Federation does not change their flagship until the current one is either destroyed or mothballed.
  • mewmaster101mewmaster101 Member Posts: 1,239 Arc User
    reyan01 wrote: »
    khan5000 wrote: »
    reyan01 wrote: »
    pwridiots wrote: »
    caylenr wrote: »
    The Enterprise is obviously on a critical mission performing sensor sweeps of the Neutral Zone in case the Romulans try to take advantage of the situation.

    Let's just say that her captain has previous experience with the Iconians and Starfleet is reluctant to put him or her in a position where he or she might be vulnerable to their influence.

    Lawl THIS is funny.

    In all honesty, new ship parts: "After extensive time in combat, deep space exploration and other different mission sets, Utopia Planatia have come up with modular variations to the existing Odyssey superstructure in order to fulfill the requirements of commanding officers."

    Fleet version, that's what needs to be done. Just one going 4/4/4. Why?

    It's the flagship of the fleet. Period. FLAG. SHIP. It's the testament to everyone that meets her, "Holy TRIBBLE. We were going to attack them. We were going to negotiate for a better deal. Now? Uh uh."

    Give her better hull and shields, make her faster in a straight line, but then add that weight and extra mass to her turning and inertia. Make her a true whale. If people want to run DBBs then they need to give up some of those consoles for RCSs.

    Oh, and hangar. In all honesty, every ship should be able to hangar a wing of shuttles. If I were a captain? I'd send out shuttles all day.

    Just my 0.02 EC.

    You may have missed the portion of 'Broken Circle' when, upon leaving the Herald Sphere, the wrecked hulls of several Odyssey class ships are floating amongst the debris.

    The Enterprise is the Flagship. Not every Odyssey in the fleet. And by Flagship they simply mean the most visible and reflective of the Factions honor, ideals and so forth. It doesnt make it more powerful or invulnerable then any other ship out there. The Ent-E was one of what two Enterprises that didnt go boom?

    Agreed - although it's probably worth noting that there was never any evidence to suggest that any Enterprise that preceeded the Enterprise-D was referred to as a 'Flagship'; and it's pretty difficult to find much reference to the 'E' being referred to as the flagship.

    And so far as Enterprise's go (and not counting non-canon sources):
    NX-01: Preserved and on dispaly in Fleet Museum
    1701: Autodestructed above Genesis planet
    1701-A: Fate unknown
    1701-B: Fate unknown
    1701-C: Destroyed defending Narendra III from Romulan attack
    1701-D: Destroyed by Riker forgetting how to command a ship
    1701-E: STO timeline - destroyed. Otherwise not known

    Besides which, the Enterprise didn't generally remain the pinacle of Starfleet technology for long, with Starfleet producing newer, better, ships - such is progression.

    The database at Startrek.com lists the E as the flagship

    Well, I did say that it is "pretty difficult to find much reference to the 'E' being referred to as the flagship". Not impossible.

    However, fact remains that it was never stated to be as such on screen/in movie dialouge.

    You mean besides the fact the flagship has ALWAYS been an Enterprise? I cannot think of a single time in the series where the enterprise was NOT the flagship.
  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    reyan01 wrote: »
    khan5000 wrote: »
    reyan01 wrote: »
    pwridiots wrote: »
    caylenr wrote: »
    The Enterprise is obviously on a critical mission performing sensor sweeps of the Neutral Zone in case the Romulans try to take advantage of the situation.

    Let's just say that her captain has previous experience with the Iconians and Starfleet is reluctant to put him or her in a position where he or she might be vulnerable to their influence.

    Lawl THIS is funny.

    In all honesty, new ship parts: "After extensive time in combat, deep space exploration and other different mission sets, Utopia Planatia have come up with modular variations to the existing Odyssey superstructure in order to fulfill the requirements of commanding officers."

    Fleet version, that's what needs to be done. Just one going 4/4/4. Why?

    It's the flagship of the fleet. Period. FLAG. SHIP. It's the testament to everyone that meets her, "Holy TRIBBLE. We were going to attack them. We were going to negotiate for a better deal. Now? Uh uh."

    Give her better hull and shields, make her faster in a straight line, but then add that weight and extra mass to her turning and inertia. Make her a true whale. If people want to run DBBs then they need to give up some of those consoles for RCSs.

    Oh, and hangar. In all honesty, every ship should be able to hangar a wing of shuttles. If I were a captain? I'd send out shuttles all day.

    Just my 0.02 EC.

    You may have missed the portion of 'Broken Circle' when, upon leaving the Herald Sphere, the wrecked hulls of several Odyssey class ships are floating amongst the debris.

    The Enterprise is the Flagship. Not every Odyssey in the fleet. And by Flagship they simply mean the most visible and reflective of the Factions honor, ideals and so forth. It doesnt make it more powerful or invulnerable then any other ship out there. The Ent-E was one of what two Enterprises that didnt go boom?

    Agreed - although it's probably worth noting that there was never any evidence to suggest that any Enterprise that preceeded the Enterprise-D was referred to as a 'Flagship'; and it's pretty difficult to find much reference to the 'E' being referred to as the flagship.

    And so far as Enterprise's go (and not counting non-canon sources):
    NX-01: Preserved and on dispaly in Fleet Museum
    1701: Autodestructed above Genesis planet
    1701-A: Fate unknown
    1701-B: Fate unknown
    1701-C: Destroyed defending Narendra III from Romulan attack
    1701-D: Destroyed by Riker forgetting how to command a ship
    1701-E: STO timeline - destroyed. Otherwise not known

    Besides which, the Enterprise didn't generally remain the pinacle of Starfleet technology for long, with Starfleet producing newer, better, ships - such is progression.

    The database at Startrek.com lists the E as the flagship

    Well, I did say that it is "pretty difficult to find much reference to the 'E' being referred to as the flagship". Not impossible.

    However, fact remains that it was never stated to be as such on screen/in movie dialouge.

    You mean besides the fact the flagship has ALWAYS been an Enterprise? I cannot think of a single time in the series where the enterprise was NOT the flagship.

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  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,008 Arc User
    You mean besides the fact the flagship has ALWAYS been an Enterprise? I cannot think of a single time in the series where the enterprise was NOT the flagship.

    Actually, the only ship called "Flagship of the Federation" was the -D. No Enterprise ever was called flagship otherwise.​​
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  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    It'd be impractical for the 'no bloody letter' to have been the flagship anyway considering it was so far out of Fed space. Also, wasn't the DS9 flagship Ross' Intrepid?
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  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,008 Arc User
    artan42 wrote: »
    It'd be impractical for the 'no bloody letter' to have been the flagship anyway considering it was so far out of Fed space. Also, wasn't the DS9 flagship Ross' Intrepid?

    Thing is, Trek knew "flagships" and "flagships". Admirals had a flagship, like wet navies had. Then there was the "Flagship of the Federation" bit that was added to the -D which was a representative title or something? And there might even be technological "flagships".​​
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  • mewmaster101mewmaster101 Member Posts: 1,239 Arc User
    angrytarg wrote: »
    You mean besides the fact the flagship has ALWAYS been an Enterprise? I cannot think of a single time in the series where the enterprise was NOT the flagship.

    Actually, the only ship called "Flagship of the Federation" was the -D. No Enterprise ever was called flagship otherwise.​​

    pretty sure that the Original one was also labeled as a "Flagship" as well, or at least the -A and the official website lists the -E as one as well. Also the NX-01 was the flagship of the earth federation, though that being their ONLY real starship at the time, it kind of was that autmatically that.
  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,008 Arc User
    pretty sure that the Original one was also labeled as a "Flagship" as well, or at least the -A and the official website lists the -E as one as well. Also the NX-01 was the flagship of the earth federation, though that being their ONLY real starship at the time, it kind of was that autmatically that.

    Definitely not, the only Enterprise to ever bear the title was the -D in canon, can't say anything about what the website says. Of course, by one of the possible definitions, the Enterprise-A was a flagship under Admiral Kirk, but it wasn't the flagship, at least never identified as such in dialogue pig-1.gif​​
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