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Woot! Finally, the T-6 Bird Of Prey.

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    nightkennightken Member Posts: 2,824 Arc User
    kyrrok wrote: »
    toiva wrote: »
    Well, as noted, the Kor at least got the Fleet Norgh Boff layout. That's good. Unfortunately not any other buff, mostly as expected. I'm just a little puzzled about the blog mentioning a quantum torp console for both the Valiant and Kor now. It might be a eftover in the blog from when both ships were supposed to get a photon one and wasn't well corrected, but it might also be that all the whining just made KDF get a quantum torp console...

    The quantum console for the Kor might be a misprint. I've seen a lot of Feds pleading for a switchover to quantum. Not so much here for the Kor.
    sinn74 wrote: »
    Am I the only one underwhelmed by the stats? I see no real reason to upgrade from a t5 B'rel. I mean, Pilot ships are more impressive. I'm not feeling it at all, sadly.

    Another satisfied customer! :D

    I hope so I like undine rep gear so photons would work better for me.

    ether way I'm buying it, cause I set aside money to do just that weeks ago.


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    toivatoiva Member Posts: 3,276 Arc User
    kyrrok wrote: »
    toiva wrote: »
    Well, as noted, the Kor at least got the Fleet Norgh Boff layout. That's good. Unfortunately not any other buff, mostly as expected. I'm just a little puzzled about the blog mentioning a quantum torp console for both the Valiant and Kor now. It might be a eftover in the blog from when both ships were supposed to get a photon one and wasn't well corrected, but it might also be that all the whining just made KDF get a quantum torp console...

    The quantum console for the Kor might be a misprint. I've seen a lot of Feds pleading for a switchover to quantum. Not so much here for the Kor.

    To clarify, I meant whining by some 'Defiant aficionados' (to use a polite term) for the Valiant to get quantums (don't think I've seen a single request for the Kor to get quantums). It wouldn't be unheard of that a change on FED side would lead to an equal (although uncalled for) change on KDF side.

    But yes, it might simply be a misprint.
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    angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,001 Arc User
    toiva wrote: »
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    But yes, it might simply be a misprint.

    I hope so. There's no reason for the Kor to have quantums. KDF - photon, Fed - quantums, Roms - plasma makes sense.​​
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    potasssiumpotasssium Member Posts: 1,226 Arc User
    Less weapon slots is less weapon power drain, at least that is my philosophy.
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    f9thretxcf9thretxc Member Posts: 505 Arc User
    potasssium wrote: »
    Less weapon slots is less weapon power drain, at least that is my philosophy.

    Ya know, that is a damn fine point.

    While I was hoping for a little more, I can easily make this bird sing. It is a definite sale to this Captain.

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    revanindustriesrevanindustries Member Posts: 508 Arc User
    sinn74 wrote: »
    Am I the only one underwhelmed by the stats? I see no real reason to upgrade from a t5 B'rel. I mean, Pilot ships are more impressive. I'm not feeling it at all, sadly.

    The dual LtC setup is the selling point. Now we have a version of the Norgh (best end-game Tac BoP) with the full console layout and EBC (for Torp Boating) as well.
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    bravecatherinebravecatherine Member Posts: 142 Arc User
    Let's be honest here...every klingon player is going to buy the BOP regardless of stats.
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    narthaisnarthais Member Posts: 452 Arc User
    There will be a few that don't, but unlike the backlash on the fed side of the fence most of us had more realistic expectations/hopes in the first place, we got what we expected.
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    potasssiumpotasssium Member Posts: 1,226 Arc User
    We got a 2pc set that is more than I expected.

    I'll be getting the Kor, haven't decided when I'll get the Malem, have no interest in the Defiant other than for the trait.
    Thanks for the Advanced Light Cruiser, Allied Escort Bundles, Jem-Hadar Light Battlecruiser, and Mek'leth
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    warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    edited November 2015
    potasssium wrote: »
    We got a 2pc set that is more than I expected.

    I'll be getting the Kor, haven't decided when I'll get the Malem, have no interest in the Defiant other than for the trait.

    I intend to get the full pack. I play all 3 factions extensively but KDF the most. Because I do all factions, these big pack releases are better for me than buying 1-2 ships.

    It's also come full circle, at least for me. I was around for STO's launch in 2010. Back then, the B'Rel was only playable at T1. The KDF playerbase campaigned hard to get an endgame B'Rel, which for most of Star Trek, was essentially the Klingons' closest thing to a heavily featured "Hero Ship." The B'Rel had more movie appearances than even the Galaxy-class, had more total screentime than even the Sovereign-class. Anyways, we campaigned for an endgame B'Rel and we actually got her. We campaigned again for a T6 BOP and we are a day away from the T6 B'Rel.

    Time to put the money where the mouth is, at least for me.
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    rezkingrezking Member Posts: 1,109 Arc User
    Let's be honest here...every klingon player is going to buy the BOP regardless of stats.

    Only if Cannons get a buff...then just for the Trait.
    Most already have it btw, the T5U B'rel.
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    potasssiumpotasssium Member Posts: 1,226 Arc User
    potasssium wrote: »
    We got a 2pc set that is more than I expected.

    I'll be getting the Kor, haven't decided when I'll get the Malem, have no interest in the Defiant other than for the trait.

    I intend to get the full pack. I play all 3 factions extensively but KDF the most. Because I do all factions, these big pack releases are better for me than buying 1-2 ships.

    I have 12 toons, 7 KDF, 3 Rom, and only 2 feds. My Fed who uses escorts won't get out of the Ajax, Icarus, or scryer he normally uses for the Defiant. If I could justify it I would buy the Hestia, as the MVAE is my fav escort. My other fed uses a T5U Nebula & Yamato.

    I bought the Dreadnought Pack, all great ships. But Skipped the T6 Mogh & Avenger, only nabbed the Morrigu.
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    narthaisnarthais Member Posts: 452 Arc User
    potasssium wrote: »
    I bought the Dreadnought Pack, all great ships. But Skipped the T6 Mogh & Avenger, only nabbed the Morrigu.

    7 KDF and you skipped the t6 Mogh, even if only for its awesome trait that ship is worth getting. come to think of it none of my kdf run a t6 mogh atm, but all the active ones have ground out the trait from it. Course EPtW is a staple of most of my builds so the trait was a no brainer really.
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    potasssiumpotasssium Member Posts: 1,226 Arc User
    edited November 2015
    I might grab the T6 Mogh later, but just am adamantly against Feds having Battlecruisers so refuse to even have the Avenger/Arbiter as claimable.

    Besides the Mah'ta is everything I wish the Mogh was.

    Much like how some people feel about Feds having a raider or any cloaking ability. I make no claim that my feelings on the matter are reasonable or logical.

    At the very least fed BC should only get DC and not DHC.

    Only exception being the Galaxy-X.
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    toivatoiva Member Posts: 3,276 Arc User
    potasssium wrote: »
    We got a 2pc set that is more than I expected.

    I'll be getting the Kor, haven't decided when I'll get the Malem, have no interest in the Defiant other than for the trait.

    I intend to get the full pack. I play all 3 factions extensively but KDF the most. Because I do all factions, these big pack releases are better for me than buying 1-2 ships.

    It's also come full circle, at least for me. I was around for STO's launch in 2010. Back then, the B'Rel was only playable at T1. The KDF playerbase campaigned hard to get an endgame B'Rel, which for most of Star Trek, was essentially the Klingons' closest thing to a heavily featured "Hero Ship." The B'Rel had more movie appearances than even the Galaxy-class, had more total screentime than even the Sovereign-class. Anyways, we campaigned for an endgame B'Rel and we actually got her. We campaigned again for a T6 BOP and we are a day away from the T6 B'Rel.

    Time to put the money where the mouth is, at least for me.

    Good point. I now realise I have been having a request for a T6 BoP in my sig for quite a while. It would bring me great dishonor not to get it now that it's available (despite the fact I like the Hegh'ta costume more).

    And similarly, I have characters from all factions (not counting auxiliary characters, even the same amount of chars for each f(r)action), so most of the time, I prefer to get bundles as well. (If I don't want to get at least two thirds of a given bundle - equivalent to its price - I typically just pass on it as a whole.)
    TOIVA, Toi Vaxx, Toia Vix, Toveg, T'vritha, To Vrax: Bring in the Allegiance class.
    Toi'Va, Ti'vath, Toivia, Ty'Vris, Tia Vex, Toi'Virth: Add Tier 6 KDF Carrier and Raider.
    Tae'Va, T'Vaya, To'Var, Tevra, T'Vira, To'Vrak: Give us Asylums for Romulans.

    Don't make ARC mandatory! Keep it optional only!
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    goodscotchgoodscotch Member Posts: 1,680 Arc User
    I think I'm buying the T6 Fleet version of this. See what I can do with it. At the very least it'll be another ship for the Admiralty System. Maybe I'll make it a project.
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    warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    goodscotch wrote: »
    I think I'm buying the T6 Fleet version of this. See what I can do with it. At the very least it'll be another ship for the Admiralty System. Maybe I'll make it a project.

    T5 Fleet Norgh amount of BOFF skills with one of the LtCmdr stations having Pilot, but you have the console count of a T6/T5U ship. The Fleet Norgh pays for its 12 total BOFF skills by having -1 total console slots.

    Due to the nature of going T5->T6, the T6 B'Rel has the best of both worlds ATM. Fleet Norgh BOFF station, full console slots, limited Pilot access (I would have preferred Intel but that's just me), and Enhanced Battle Cloak.

    I was setting up her BOFF stations when the game took a TRIBBLE, didn't even get to test drive.
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    narthaisnarthais Member Posts: 452 Arc User
    I was setting up her BOFF stations when the game took a TRIBBLE, didn't even get to test drive.

    Only had power levels left to change on mine, was going to give it a quick spin through Argala then head to work, as it is the test drive will now need to wait, with luck the servers will be back up when I get home. Short day Friday at work too, only work till midday.
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    staq16staq16 Member Posts: 1,181 Arc User
    Personally, I look forward to Qo'nos orbital space being full of BoPs as it should be.

    IMO, the Kor is the best of this bundle - it's got a very clear unique selling point as distinct from the Pilot Escorts, which is not so true for the T'varo and completely untrue for the Defiant. The console - spike torpedo damage - is actually incredibly logical for an EBC Raider; I look forward to combining it with flanking, Intel spec, TS3 Neutronic torps and Kemocite for mass devastation, without decloaking :).

    Another really good thing is that Cryptic are continuing their trend of making individual faction's ships very different within a cross-faction bundle. The Mogai refit packaged with the Avenger / Mogh BCs, then the Kolasi with the Fed and Rom Dreadnoughts, now the Kor - a raider alongside escorts. Good grief, that looks suspiciously like factional distinctiveness creeping back in there...
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    warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    I like the T6 B'Rel so far. Regarding the specialization that was decided on by Cryptic, Pilot, in the B'Rel's case, it's not the most ideal. Intel would have been very powerful on her. I deride Command quite often but with the tradition of the B'Rel being a torp boat, Command would actually work well with her. Command would also work well on the T6 T'Varo also.
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    narthaisnarthais Member Posts: 452 Arc User
    I've been making strong use of Hold together and clean getaway for my Kor, the later gives you the time to recloak after a run if you're not using a torp build.
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    generator88generator88 Member Posts: 698 Arc User
    I'll pick this up as Zen permits, but it's in line behind the Ty'Gokor. :smile:
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    I'm sure your DPS is great, but as Kahless said, "a petaQ with high system mastery is still a petaQ." (Well, he should have said it...!)
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    ssiissuussiissuu Member Posts: 13 Arc User
    For anyone who has, or hasn't purchased into the new bundle yet, be advised that the blog isn't accurate. Kor and Fleet Kor have the same bug that the Fleet B'Rel had. Namely that it cannot use the B'Rotlh skin, despite being advertised as working, on the blog. I love BoPs, and it'd be nice to get what was advertised, namely using parts from the very pretty B'Rotlh on my new Kor.
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    potasssiumpotasssium Member Posts: 1,226 Arc User
    edited November 2015
    Was using her last night, not as fragile as I expected. Using Kor Cannon/Wingtips & center hull, everything else B'rel. She will replace the Nandi on one of my toons as there main ship.

    Leaving her with the Nandi and T5U Fleet Kamarag as alt ships.
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    f9thretxcf9thretxc Member Posts: 505 Arc User
    potasssium wrote: »
    Was using her last night, not as fragile as I expected. Using Kor Cannon/Wingtips & center hull, everything else B'rel. She will replace the Nandi on one of my toons as there main ship.

    Leaving her with the Nandi and T5U Fleet Kamarag as alt ships.

    I love to hear this. I've been doing my best to farm up the zen, but I'm gonna be about 400 zen behind before the 3 pack sale ends. So Seeing this review has made up my mind to just go ahead and pop for this one.

    This and the Rom where the only two I was really interested in anyways.

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    aurigas7aurigas7 Member Posts: 488 Arc User
    edited November 2015
    I have no complaints about this ship. It is the nightmare of every big, slow turning spacewhale. Incredible alpha, and I like the pilot hybrid seat.
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    narthaisnarthais Member Posts: 452 Arc User
    edited November 2015
    f9thretxc wrote: »
    I love to hear this. I've been doing my best to farm up the zen, but I'm gonna be about 400 zen behind before the 3 pack sale ends. So Seeing this review has made up my mind to just go ahead and pop for this one.

    This and the Rom where the only two I was really interested in anyways.

    Wasn't really interested in the Defiant myself either, but wanting the other two there's no reason not to just spring for the three pack.

    Running mine much the same as Potasium, except my wings are the Koloth parts. Bare in mind the ship still cant take a torpedo hit if you lose shields, well not a buffed hit like HY or spread at least. She may not be as fragile as expected, but she's still a BoP.
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    mreeves7amreeves7a Member Posts: 499 Arc User
    Put my KDF Sci in a Kor, using it as a psuedo science vessel. It's working pretty well, only thing I wish was different on the Kor is the specialization BOff, would've preferred Command.
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    warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    mreeves7a wrote: »
    Put my KDF Sci in a Kor, using it as a psuedo science vessel. It's working pretty well, only thing I wish was different on the Kor is the specialization BOff, would've preferred Command.

    Concentrate Firepower on a Torp Boat B'Rel... Same thing with the T'Varo which were also popular Torp Boats.
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