test content
What is the Arc Client?
Install Arc

Still no DSP revamp

2»

Comments

  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,564 Community Moderator
    *Gasp*
    Does thou know what thy hath done?
    You risk the wrath of the Tacofangs...

    Last person who angered the Tacofangs was crushed and then turned into a pile of tacos.
    db80k0m-89201ed8-eadb-45d3-830f-bb2f0d4c0fe7.png?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOjdlMGQxODg5ODIyNjQzNzNhNWYwZDQxNWVhMGQyNmUwIiwiaXNzIjoidXJuOmFwcDo3ZTBkMTg4OTgyMjY0MzczYTVmMGQ0MTVlYTBkMjZlMCIsIm9iaiI6W1t7InBhdGgiOiJcL2ZcL2ExOGQ4ZWM2LTUyZjQtNDdiMS05YTI1LTVlYmZkYmJkOGM3N1wvZGI4MGswbS04OTIwMWVkOC1lYWRiLTQ1ZDMtODMwZi1iYjJmMGQ0YzBmZTcucG5nIn1dXSwiYXVkIjpbInVybjpzZXJ2aWNlOmZpbGUuZG93bmxvYWQiXX0.8G-Pg35Qi8qxiKLjAofaKRH6fmNH3qAAEI628gW0eXc
    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
    The nut who actually ground out many packs. The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
  • tontokowalski22tontokowalski22 Member Posts: 86 Arc User
    khan1000 wrote: »
    tacofangs wrote: »
    khan1000 wrote: »
    ds9-runabout.jpg
    Do you see a star there.

    No . . . but there's a bunch of bright light on the left side of the station/runabout, indicating that there is a sun there, just not on screen.

    Then put it where it was, it also needs to farther away, it may also be lighting for the camera it was a time when they used models more then CGI.

    Just saying, if you aren't a member of a gang it's usually not a good idea to wear that gang's tags.
    vSzSPTd.jpg
    I don't always feel like endlessly grinding for hours with little to gain from it. But when I do, I choose Star Trek Online
  • samt1996samt1996 Member Posts: 2,856 Arc User
    As I'm sure Tacofangs would tell you if he were allowed to, is that he is currently working on it. It was announced weeks ago that this was being worked on but wouldn't be ready in time for season 11.

    Can you please learn to read and stop burdening us with your stupidity? Pretty please?

    T'was worth a try.
  • gulberatgulberat Member Posts: 5,505 Arc User
    samt1996 wrote: »
    As I'm sure Tacofangs would tell you if he were allowed to, is that he is currently working on it. It was announced weeks ago that this was being worked on but wouldn't be ready in time for season 11.

    Can you please learn to read and stop burdening us with your stupidity? Pretty please?

    T'was worth a try.

    Out of curiosity, how will "Boldly They Rode" be addressed since it makes extensive use of the current DS9 interior? Is it set for a revamp?

    Christian Gaming Community Fleets--Faith, Fun, and Fellowship! See the website and PM for more. :-)
    Proudly F2P.  Signature image by gulberat. Avatar image by balsavor.deviantart.com.
  • samt1996samt1996 Member Posts: 2,856 Arc User
    They did not go into detail.
  • kerygankerygan Member Posts: 254 Arc User
    null
    naaah im sure Bajor was orbiting @ a neutron star XD
  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    I am looking forward to a DS9 revamp.

    But I think what we might really need first would be some QoL features on Q'Onos. Not even a total overhaul - just put banks next to all the mail boxes and on the dock. That would make Q'onos so much more enjoyable to use.
    Star Trek Online Advancement: You start with lowbie gear, you end with Lobi gear.
  • tacofangstacofangs Member Posts: 2,951 Cryptic Developer
    khan1000 wrote: »
    tacofangs wrote: »
    khan1000 wrote: »
    ds9-runabout.jpg
    Do you see a star there.

    No . . . but there's a bunch of bright light on the left side of the station/runabout, indicating that there is a sun there, just not on screen.

    Then put it where it was, it also needs to farther away, it may also be lighting for the camera it was a time when they used models more then CGI.

    Put what where what was?

    Of course it was lighting for the model. . . but that model was meant to represent a space station, in space. That light was meant to represent light, in space. Where do you think that light in space is coming from?
    Only YOU can prevent forum fires!
    19843299196_235e44bcf6_o.jpg
  • svindal777svindal777 Member Posts: 856 Arc User
    tacofangs wrote: »
    khan1000 wrote: »
    tacofangs wrote: »
    khan1000 wrote: »
    ds9-runabout.jpg
    Do you see a star there.

    No . . . but there's a bunch of bright light on the left side of the station/runabout, indicating that there is a sun there, just not on screen.

    Then put it where it was, it also needs to farther away, it may also be lighting for the camera it was a time when they used models more then CGI.

    Put what where what was?

    Of course it was lighting for the model. . . but that model was meant to represent a space station, in space. That light was meant to represent light, in space. Where do you think that light in space is coming from?
    There are 4 lights
    Well excuse me for having enormous flaws that I don't work on.
  • starcruiser#3423 starcruiser Member Posts: 1,259 Arc User
    edited November 2015
    daveyny wrote: »
    What is DSP ?

    I thought I was being dyslexic when I saw the title too. OP can you please slap yourself silly for not catching the spelling mistake monkey-50.gif​​
  • atrebatesatrebates Member Posts: 26 Arc User
    The Bajoran star is classified as a G2V yellow dwarf.

    The Sol star is classified as a G2V yellow dwarf.

    Conclusion: Bajor's star has roughly the same radius, cirumference, volume, mass, density, gravity, temperature and luminosity as the Sol star.


    Earth's orbital distance ranges from approximately 146,000,000 kilometers to 151,000,000 kilometers.

    Conclusion: Earth has an average distance of 148,000,000 kilometers from the Sol star.


    Bajor is not a barren, arctic, lifeless s***hole. Nor is it a volcanic, charred, Great British Bake-Off reject. On the contrary, Bajor is a habitable Class M planet, and has a very terran biome, with similar atmospheric and gravitational properties to Earth.

    As any practical science teaches us, to get a similar result, you must create similar conditions.

    Conclusion: Bajor has an average distance of 148,000,000 kilometers from the Bajoran star.


    Deep Space 9 is estimated to be around 250,000,000-300,000,000km from Bajor. Of course, we know that planets actually move, but Star Trek writing usually just makes up a load of bollocks whenever it suits them so you know, just roll with it.

    We don't have a reliable source - or any source, really - denoting DS9's orientation and position relative to the Bajoran star. For simplicity's sake, let's assume that the above measurement was taken during the small window in Bajor's orbit where the planet is positioned directly between the Bajoran star and Deep Space 9.

    Conclusion: The absolute furthest distance there could possibly be between Deep Space 9 and the Bajoran star, is 451,000,000 kilometers.

    Give or take a few inches.


    Pluto is roughly 6,000,000,000km from Sol.

    Light from Sol illuminates Pluto. Studies even show that Pluto is warmed by Sol. Not a lot, but a little.

    Conclusion: One could say the conclusion is clearly visible. We've managed to brighten up the issue, I think.

    Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to fetch a light snack.
  • khan1000khan1000 Member Posts: 264 Arc User
    atrebates wrote: »
    The Bajoran star is classified as a G2V yellow dwarf.

    The Sol star is classified as a G2V yellow dwarf.

    Conclusion: Bajor's star has roughly the same radius, cirumference, volume, mass, density, gravity, temperature and luminosity as the Sol star.


    Earth's orbital distance ranges from approximately 146,000,000 kilometers to 151,000,000 kilometers.

    Conclusion: Earth has an average distance of 148,000,000 kilometers from the Sol star.


    Bajor is not a barren, arctic, lifeless s***hole. Nor is it a volcanic, charred, Great British Bake-Off reject. On the contrary, Bajor is a habitable Class M planet, and has a very terran biome, with similar atmospheric and gravitational properties to Earth.

    As any practical science teaches us, to get a similar result, you must create similar conditions.

    Conclusion: Bajor has an average distance of 148,000,000 kilometers from the Bajoran star.


    Deep Space 9 is estimated to be around 250,000,000-300,000,000km from Bajor. Of course, we know that planets actually move, but Star Trek writing usually just makes up a load of bollocks whenever it suits them so you know, just roll with it.

    We don't have a reliable source - or any source, really - denoting DS9's orientation and position relative to the Bajoran star. For simplicity's sake, let's assume that the above measurement was taken during the small window in Bajor's orbit where the planet is positioned directly between the Bajoran star and Deep Space 9.

    Conclusion: The absolute furthest distance there could possibly be between Deep Space 9 and the Bajoran star, is 451,000,000 kilometers.

    Give or take a few inches.


    Pluto is roughly 6,000,000,000km from Sol.

    Light from Sol illuminates Pluto. Studies even show that Pluto is warmed by Sol. Not a lot, but a little.

    Conclusion: One could say the conclusion is clearly visible. We've managed to brighten up the issue, I think.

    Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to fetch a light snack.

    And yet you NEVER see a star in 7 Seasons
    giphy.gif
    Fear the Dominion
  • shrimphead2015shrimphead2015 Member Posts: 535 Arc User
    I wish we could have a working airlock in DS 9.
    "There is iron in your words of death for all Comanche to see, and so there is iron in your words of life. No signed paper can hold the iron. It must come from men. The words of Ten Bears carries the same iron of life and death. It is good that warriors such as we meet in the struggle of life... or death. It shall be life." - Ten Bears (Will Sampson)
  • mackbolan01mackbolan01 Member Posts: 580 Arc User
    open inner airlock door, insert toven khev, close inner door......<WARNING>....open outer door.......toven khev is DEAD !!!!!!......close outer door ,re-pressurize airlock........​​
  • kerygankerygan Member Posts: 254 Arc User
    ofc there is a star @ there , you coldn't see even Bajor without the light from a star. The guy that sugest there is no star in Bajor system cause is not in the show ... has some problems.
  • tacofangstacofangs Member Posts: 2,951 Cryptic Developer
    khan1000 wrote: »
    atrebates wrote: »
    The Bajoran star is classified as a G2V yellow dwarf.

    The Sol star is classified as a G2V yellow dwarf.

    Conclusion: Bajor's star has roughly the same radius, cirumference, volume, mass, density, gravity, temperature and luminosity as the Sol star.


    Earth's orbital distance ranges from approximately 146,000,000 kilometers to 151,000,000 kilometers.

    Conclusion: Earth has an average distance of 148,000,000 kilometers from the Sol star.


    Bajor is not a barren, arctic, lifeless s***hole. Nor is it a volcanic, charred, Great British Bake-Off reject. On the contrary, Bajor is a habitable Class M planet, and has a very terran biome, with similar atmospheric and gravitational properties to Earth.

    As any practical science teaches us, to get a similar result, you must create similar conditions.

    Conclusion: Bajor has an average distance of 148,000,000 kilometers from the Bajoran star.


    Deep Space 9 is estimated to be around 250,000,000-300,000,000km from Bajor. Of course, we know that planets actually move, but Star Trek writing usually just makes up a load of bollocks whenever it suits them so you know, just roll with it.

    We don't have a reliable source - or any source, really - denoting DS9's orientation and position relative to the Bajoran star. For simplicity's sake, let's assume that the above measurement was taken during the small window in Bajor's orbit where the planet is positioned directly between the Bajoran star and Deep Space 9.

    Conclusion: The absolute furthest distance there could possibly be between Deep Space 9 and the Bajoran star, is 451,000,000 kilometers.

    Give or take a few inches.


    Pluto is roughly 6,000,000,000km from Sol.

    Light from Sol illuminates Pluto. Studies even show that Pluto is warmed by Sol. Not a lot, but a little.

    Conclusion: One could say the conclusion is clearly visible. We've managed to brighten up the issue, I think.

    Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to fetch a light snack.

    And yet you NEVER see a star in 7 Seasons

    And thus, your conclusion is that the Bajor system didn't have a sun?
    Only YOU can prevent forum fires!
    19843299196_235e44bcf6_o.jpg
  • gulberatgulberat Member Posts: 5,505 Arc User
    edited November 2015
    @khan1000 We didn't see a sun when the Romulans tried to drop a trilithium weapon in it? Also, it has a canon name (B'hava'el).

    Christian Gaming Community Fleets--Faith, Fun, and Fellowship! See the website and PM for more. :-)
    Proudly F2P.  Signature image by gulberat. Avatar image by balsavor.deviantart.com.
  • kerygankerygan Member Posts: 254 Arc User
    the Profets and Sis-Q provide the lighting of Bajor and DS9 , stars are for noobs , the Light makes stars obsolete.
  • sevenofnine13141sevenofnine13141 Member Posts: 4,273 Arc User
    edited November 2015
    All solar systems aren't solar systems without a star to be even be there. It's a known fact.
    Conclusion:
    An area of space can't be a Solar System without a star being in that area. An area without a star isn't a solar system.
    yakiw2uzh0ao.png
  • ladytiamat666ladytiamat666 Member Posts: 276 Arc User
    kerygan wrote: »
    the Profets and Sis-Q provide the lighting of Bajor and DS9 , stars are for noobs , the Light makes stars obsolete.

    Stars are for noobs, ah you made me laugh SO hard !

    signature%201.jpg_zpsklpuyd7v.png
  • daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    edited November 2015
    daveyny wrote: »
    What is DSP ?

    I thought I was being dyslexic when I saw the title too. OP can you please slap yourself silly for not catching the spelling mistake monkey-50.gif​​
    DSP =

    Discussing Something Perplexing

    or

    Don't See the Point

    or

    Dumb S**t Postulating

    B)
    STO Member since February 2009.
    I Was A Trekkie Before It Was Cool ... Sept. 8th, 1966 ... Not To Mention Before Most Folks Around Here Were Born!
    Forever a STO Veteran-Minion
    upside-down-banana-smiley-emoticon.gif
  • hipachilleshipachilles Member Posts: 195 Arc User
    khan1000 wrote: »
    And yet you NEVER see a star in 7 Seasons

    I saw it quite a few times, didn't you?
    memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Bajoran_sun

    If you meant the station and star were never in the same shot, you have a point. But production costs being what they are, the station was a physical model and only got a CGI counterpart in the last scene of the series. Digitally adding in a sun to any shots of the station would have added unnecessary CGI costs.

    Or are you saying there isn't a star in Cryptic's space map but the star is supposed to be there in the distance?
    I get that you wanted a DS9 revamp. Taco may not have said it here, but he said it in the past that he always wanted to do the same thing.

    If they end up adding the Dominion as a mini-faction, perhaps a remastering of DS9 and the 2800 story arc could go hand-in-hand with that. Add in potential exploration of the Gamma Quadrant and that sounds like the making of a nice expansion, eh?
  • khan1000khan1000 Member Posts: 264 Arc User
    kerygan wrote: »
    ofc there is a star @ there , you coldn't see even Bajor without the light from a star. The guy that sugest there is no star in Bajor system cause is not in the show ... has some problems.

    no i'm not i'm saying DS9 is too far away for very much light.
    giphy.gif
    Fear the Dominion
  • tacofangstacofangs Member Posts: 2,951 Cryptic Developer
    latest?cb=20070105230453&path-prefix=en
    Only YOU can prevent forum fires!
    19843299196_235e44bcf6_o.jpg
  • siliconpsychosiliconpsycho Member Posts: 135 Arc User
    Mars is much, much further away from the earth than DS9 is from bajor. Mars has a rather bright daytime.
Sign In or Register to comment.