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no more rep systems pls // stop the weekly rewards on FEs
scrooge69
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what the title says
its way too much passive abilites
think of new ppl comming into the game
WOW! what to get?
also we have only 4 slots(+1 to buy) instead of lets say 1 slot for every rep system
what do you think is it ok? more rep systems?
every seas one more?
so lets tal kweekly rewards on FEs
the missions arent really that grat that u want to paly em that often
why the hell do we need 4 new space sets in 4 new missions?
we get an overflow with free space sets
why dont give away ONE space set in 4 pieces over 4 FEs
too much stuff I say
what do you think?
cool more sets?
its way too much passive abilites
think of new ppl comming into the game
WOW! what to get?
also we have only 4 slots(+1 to buy) instead of lets say 1 slot for every rep system
what do you think is it ok? more rep systems?
every seas one more?
so lets tal kweekly rewards on FEs
the missions arent really that grat that u want to paly em that often
why the hell do we need 4 new space sets in 4 new missions?
we get an overflow with free space sets
why dont give away ONE space set in 4 pieces over 4 FEs
too much stuff I say
what do you think?
cool more sets?
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it was a pain to get the setparts u wanted...with rep system every1 pays the same amout of effort for it
hate random gamble liek the new R&D upgrade system
If we get more endgame rewards, MORE rep please.
"He shall be my finest warrior, this generic man who was forced upon me.
Like a badass I shall make him look, and in the furnace of war I shall forge him.
he shall be of iron will and steely sinew.
In great armour I shall clad him and with the mightiest weapons he shall be armed.
He will be untouched by plague or disease; no sickness shall blight him.
He shall have such tactics, strategies and machines that no foe will best him in battle.
He is my answer to cryptic logic, he is the Defender of my Romulan Crew.
He is Tovan Khev... and he shall know no fear."
I do think the Reputation System is a tad bit over used, however. It has become a franchise player nearly every Season since it was introduced and is now stale and boring because of this. I've no idea what to replace it with, though. And Cryptic will have to insert something in that blank space if they do not use the Rep system. Because they have conditioned the players to expect something special, in terms of new gear and gadgetry, every time a new Season arrives
So if you want the game to stop confusing new players, don't ask more less rep traits and fewer reps overall. Ask for a clean up of the basic skills and traits. Or at least a good guide in which to chose. And the wiki sucks on this point for new players, as it does on most subjects when you're new to the game, serving only to exacerbate our confusion.
So I for one am very much looking forward to the new rep and the same goes for the weekly rewards, both set items and spec/upgrade box.
As far as the FE rewards go. In the past they spread the Set out over 3 or 4 episodes, however this time each episode seemed to get its own SET of goodies. While playing the same episode over and over can get old, if the goodies are worth it? Im not going to complain. To much of the REAAAALLY good gear in this game is put in Lockboxes or Reps systems, and THAT is worse than playing the same mission 3 times.
Way I see it, I have so many ALTS to run through these missions, by the time I get to the 2nd or 3rd ALT I will know the mission so well I can run it in very little time. That's the way running alts is, so I don't have a HUGE issue with it. The rewards are NOT time sensitive persey. They don't disappear after a certain time. Run the missions 2nd and 3rd time a month apart or whatever. The spec upgrades are nice, although I have to admit I have 6 in my account bank ready for a toon I have yet to pick to use them on.. ow well,, they aren't going anywhere.
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Sorry, but RNG is actually what makes Endgame fun and worth playing.
Its what makes playing the content repeatedly a thrill and not a chore, the excitement, anticipation, "this time could be it".
I felt such a rush of euphoria back in the day before Rep systems when I got the final piece for the Elite Honor Guard armor. After months of trying, the feeling of envy for those with better luck, it all washed away for that moment and I felt a sense of accomplishment, I felt rewarded for my effort.
The reputation system is a joke, any monkey can farm the easiest queue missions like ISA repeatedly and get everything with minimal effort. In fact, you don't even get rewards anymore, you actually have to BUY every single piece of equipment. Whereas before you actually got the complete items as the reward with no strings attached.
There is literally no difference between buying Reputation items and buying what you want on the exchange. Its all just a grind for and exchange of currency.
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If you are a completely new player it will obviously take longer. However, still barely more than say 2 months, including leveling to 50. There are the space and ground battle zones you can use plus the normal queues to gain marks. The delta and iconian will be difficult until you get to Kobali zone. And I can see iconian becoming a pain after season 11 starts and no one runs the iconian missions anymore. The lack of an iconian battlezone will hamper that reputation badly. However, all the others are fine.
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I dotn want to cut it back I want no ADDITONAL rep system every season
its TOO MANY abilies for the few slots we have
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"Sorry, but RNG is actually what makes Endgame fun and worth playing."
R u sreious? the random upgrade chances thing is what amkes fun in the g ame ?
Yeah, that's a fair point. The joke of a nerf that removed all of our passive abilities way back when became a hilarious farce when 1000x more power was added to the game soon after. I suppose since these minor passive abilites weren't monetized they got the axe in favor of the new heavily monetized ones.
"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
exactly
I can't put into words how much I disagree with you there.
As for the reps, I have all except Delta and Iconian to 5. I have Delta and Iconian to 4 and working on 5. It's not that hard. New reps would be nice. Like one guy said above - the rep system doesn't have any RNG. Put forth the effort and you get your stuff. This is nice and the way everything should work.
RNG is what makes endgame frustrating and players give up.
"He shall be my finest warrior, this generic man who was forced upon me.
Like a badass I shall make him look, and in the furnace of war I shall forge him.
he shall be of iron will and steely sinew.
In great armour I shall clad him and with the mightiest weapons he shall be armed.
He will be untouched by plague or disease; no sickness shall blight him.
He shall have such tactics, strategies and machines that no foe will best him in battle.
He is my answer to cryptic logic, he is the Defender of my Romulan Crew.
He is Tovan Khev... and he shall know no fear."
Reps are good. To me they are one of the best set ups. I can do a couple of runs on the weekend. And log on during the week to turn it in. This way I can do them rather fast. Unlike WoW you had to do it each day or you gained no Rep points. They offer a good way to get nice gear, EC, Exp, and Dil. I don't mind doing them. So far I completed the Romulan, Dyson, Delta, and Iconian ones. I don't go after all the gear. Just the ones to catch my attention and I plan on using. Some Reps I didn't care to do as they didn't interest me.
You might not like doing them, but they are all optional.
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For example, the Butterfly set was a perfect addition to the Nukara sets to let my science captain set up a Tetryon build. The Solanae set helps AP, etc.
New sets give us the chance to try new builds.
And as far as Reputations go - very quick and easy. one of my Delta Recruits leveled up 6 reps under the sponsership at once while being the designee for unlocking the Iconian Rep. You can get through ALL seven without running advanced anything; most of it from the Azure Sector. Romulan/Nakura from a Tholian Red alert once a day, Dyson and 8274 from sitting right by the Solanae Gate - Undine Space Zone, Dyson Allied Command Daily. Borg through a Red Alert that pops around there as well. Delta and Iconian, go to Kobali Prime from the Solanae Gate spot you are sitting at. Run the Kobali Ground Zone, after you are 57 and get the Dailies for both with up to two 'Elite Marks' for each by running the final two Missions there - 'Breaking the Wall' and 'With Our Last Breath' twice.
You could substitute Borg Disconnected Normal if you just want the Daily Bonus and such and don't want or need the 'Elite Marks' at this time - good for Omega, Dyson, 8274, and Delta.
You want the 'Elite Marks' easy:
Defera Ground Hard Missions (not really but you need three to get it going) for Omega - up to 4. Max 4 per day this route.
8274 gives you 4 for completing a run through of the Undine Space Battle Zone to the end of the Planet Killers and the Voth Incursion per above; there is your Counter-Command. Can be done multiple times a day.
Dyson - run the Ground Zone until the big Tyranos are all killed - 5 'Elite' awarded. Can be done multiple times a day.
Delta and Iconian - see above for Kobali for last missions in the Ground Zone. Up to 2 each per day.
Less than an hour a day and you have enough for over two Daily Rep Projects each. Remember 36 or 41 'Elite Marks' will get you a full Space Set, Ground Set, and Weapons Set. 0 for Romula/Nakura, 36 for Omega, and 41 for the rest.
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That's a really sad commentary on their general design philosophy.
That's a really sad reflection of your idea of design philosophy.
"He shall be my finest warrior, this generic man who was forced upon me.
Like a badass I shall make him look, and in the furnace of war I shall forge him.
he shall be of iron will and steely sinew.
In great armour I shall clad him and with the mightiest weapons he shall be armed.
He will be untouched by plague or disease; no sickness shall blight him.
He shall have such tactics, strategies and machines that no foe will best him in battle.
He is my answer to cryptic logic, he is the Defender of my Romulan Crew.
He is Tovan Khev... and he shall know no fear."
As Librarian Isador Akios once said, " Blessed are the minds too small for doubt."
If that's what you need to tell yourself.
Entertainment value?
You are of course entirely entitled to your own opinions.
But the fact remains that there are a considerable amount of people that actually enjoy the experience, hence why it prevails in the most popular MMORPG's.
I have no problem with the Reputation systems existing, they have their place. But I dislike the fact that Cryptic dumbed down existing game content to introduce it and pretty much gave the middle finger to the entire target demographic they revamped the STF's for in the first place.
RNG is good because it keeps people playing the content, and gives them solid goals to shoot for. The Original STF revamp had the right idea, with each set piece being an exclusive reward from a specific STF.
Most people simply aren't going to spend the time and effort of fully upgrading their equipment to be the best it can be to tackle super challenging missions that does not have a satisfying reward at the end.
In an MMORPG it's an exercise of futility if you ultimately have "nothing" to show for your efforts and no way of letting other players know of your achievements.
"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."