the new "Talaxians"... dont need another fraction. they can just make it limited to LTS. Cardassia was being rebuilt with help from Feds... I guess that you can say the TW Cardies would link up with KDF to fight em... Cardassia is in process to being assimilated into the greater Fed empire to join their Bajoran servants.
Maybe only if it was a full faction, not some half baked faction that is associed with feds or kdfs. But that is unlikely.
It has been explained several times why something like that would make no sense... Cardassia isn't strong enough to constitute its own full faction. If anything, the Cardassian Union is one of the minor powers that should have actually gotten the treatment that the RR did; unlike the Romulans it didn't take a bunch of silliness to explain why they're essentially a subfaction. The Romulans, on the other hand, should at least get their own fleets/starbases somehow and a bunch more ships, which would make for a nice .5 update.
The story can be changed any time the devs want (they did that when they added the Romulan Republic), Cardassians had more time to rebuild and control more territory than the Romulan Republic, yet the republic, in-game, looks almost on par with the Klingons and the Federation, still, I think you are right about the subfaction, but for other reasons, making a whole new faction is too much time and resource consuming.
I highly doubt that they would come up with a new faction, they are already having a hard time keeping up with the new Romulan faction and have practically given up on the Klingon faction.
With how the Dominion left their homeworld an systems, along with fall of their regime they might have the same issue, not enough of a force or base to be really a stand alone faction. Also with how few the options for other races an ships within the faction, look at roms for this they are very limited with race choices an ship choices, that it might not be as appealing in the end. I think they would need to form several other races into somewhat of a unified alaince with the cardassians leading the way (mayybe against a new dominion spear-head) to give more depth an range to the faction.
That was 35 years ago, they had more time to rebuild than the Romulans.
About species: Cardassian, alpha Vorta and Alpha Jem'hadars (the game says they are employed by the Cardassians as mercenaries and security guards), Lissepians and Xepolites are Cardassian trade partners, and there are a few other alpha quadrant species that can be added to the Cardassian Union, Lurians for example and many other STO species.
About ships, that might be a problem, there are only 3 canon Cardassian ships, Romulans have this problem as well since there are only 3 named canon Romulan ship classes (the D'deridex, the Scimitar and the Valdore), that means devs will need to be super-creative or will have to make Cardassians as another minifaction (which sounds more reasonable).
Yes but
"in the aftermath was the state of Cardassia Prime. Eight hundred million civilians had been killed by the Jem'Hadar, including many of the best and brightest minds in the Cardassian Union."
That's a lot to recover from in just 3 and a half decades...plus if I recall didn't the Cardassians sign some kind of agreement that they would not rebuild their military?
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Yeah I mentioned this too , it seems odd that they would suddenly place an irrelevant race in the main story line just out of the blue and then revamp their story line arc.
With how the Dominion left their homeworld an systems, along with fall of their regime they might have the same issue, not enough of a force or base to be really a stand alone faction. Also with how few the options for other races an ships within the faction, look at roms for this they are very limited with race choices an ship choices, that it might not be as appealing in the end. I think they would need to form several other races into somewhat of a unified alaince with the cardassians leading the way (mayybe against a new dominion spear-head) to give more depth an range to the faction.
That was 35 years ago, they had more time to rebuild than the Romulans.
About species: Cardassian, alpha Vorta and Alpha Jem'hadars (the game says they are employed by the Cardassians as mercenaries and security guards), Lissepians and Xepolites are Cardassian trade partners, and there are a few other alpha quadrant species that can be added to the Cardassian Union, Lurians for example and many other STO species.
About ships, that might be a problem, there are only 3 canon Cardassian ships, Romulans have this problem as well since there are only 3 named canon Romulan ship classes (the D'deridex, the Scimitar and the Valdore), that means devs will need to be super-creative or will have to make Cardassians as another minifaction (which sounds more reasonable).
Yes but
"in the aftermath was the state of Cardassia Prime. Eight hundred million civilians had been killed by the Jem'Hadar, including many of the best and brightest minds in the Cardassian Union."
That's a lot to recover from in just 3 and a half decades...plus if I recall didn't the Cardassians sign some kind of agreement that they would not rebuild their military?
0.8 billion cardassians civilians died 35 years ago.
4.2 billion Romulans died because of the Hobus supernova, 5 times more people died during the supernova than Cardassians during the dominion war, that was 23 years ago (in-game time), I think the game mentions, during Romulan character creation, that about 1 billion Romulans survived (but I'm not entirely sure), survivors got scattered and divided between the Empire remnants, the Romulan Republic and unaligned colonies, both the Romulan Republic and unaligned colonies where continuously attacked by Elachi, True way and Hirogen, some colonies where destroyed entirely.
Cardassians agreed to reform their military force to a self defense force and made a mutual defense pact with the federation, in exchange, the federation sent aid to rebuild Cardassian infrastructure and economy, by 2392 they made several reforms and trade agreements to improve industry, economy and population growth.
Unlike Romulans, Cardassians had several allies, the Klaestrons, the Valerians, the Lissepians and the Xepolites (plus Ferengi and Federation aid) to help them rebuild during that 35 years.
I find more unrealistic that the Romulan republic went from ragtag band of refugees with no planet to superpower, in just one year, capable of fighting against the Iconian, the Voth, the borg, the Undine and capable of sending an expeditionary force to the Delta quadrant.
but the cardasians still have their homeworld. so they could tie in fed and kling by saying join the fed in they give great tech or tech deal with kling and stay independant.
Except, STO lore is pretty clear on the fact that they are already aligned with the federation, depending on them for defense... so...
As of the end of the Iconian war, the Alliance are in no shape to be of help to anyone. Not only were their fleets utterly decimated, but many of their worlds were destroyed. Hundreds of billions of people are dead, and they're basically lucky to still have their homeworlds. As such, the Cardasians could make a strong case for rebuilding their own military, and approaching the Federation/Alliance as equals.
Only if they can keep a lid on the True Way and asshats like Rugan Skyl. Or did you forget that they sent that xenophobe to not one, but two major diplomatic conferences in the past six months (in-universe)?
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but the cardasians still have their homeworld. so they could tie in fed and kling by saying join the fed in they give great tech or tech deal with kling and stay independant.
Except, STO lore is pretty clear on the fact that they are already aligned with the federation, depending on them for defense... so...
And this lore is well founded. The Cardassians have every reason to hate the Klingons for their attacks in '72...and with the Klingons repeating the same behavior in 2407, a self-respecting Cardassian is likely IMO to believe the Klingons have not changed. I think the only two choices a Cardassian would make would be accepting the alignment with the Federation in some form or fashion, or favoring isolationism.
Like I said, giving me the uniform would be quite enough.
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Only if they can keep a lid on the True Way and asshats like Rugan Skyl. Or did you forget that they sent that xenophobe to not one, but two major diplomatic conferences in the past six months (in-universe)?
Xenophobe? You know, being a pompous jerk that puts up a strong front while holding a weak hand is pretty good for a diplomat. I personally like the character and thought he represented Cardassians very well. He consistently brings up valid points like "you want Cardassia to contribute to a campaign against the Borg after you placed restrictions our military?" or "Why does Bajor need to be at the conference when the Federation already has more than enough representation?"
He barks loudly, but that's because he or his people lack much of a stick. In a sense, he's fighting harder for his people than anyone.
Only if they can keep a lid on the True Way and asshats like Rugan Skyl. Or did you forget that they sent that xenophobe to not one, but two major diplomatic conferences in the past six months (in-universe)?
Xenophobe? You know, being a pompous jerk that puts up a strong front while holding a weak hand is pretty good for a diplomat. I personally like the character and thought he represented Cardassians very well. He consistently brings up valid points like "you want Cardassia to contribute to a campaign against the Borg after you placed restrictions our military?" or "Why does Bajor need to be at the conference when the Federation already has more than enough representation?"
He barks loudly, but that's because he or his people lack much of a stick. In a sense, he's fighting harder for his people than anyone.
Let's see:
While on DS9, he asks specifically for a vintage of kanar made by Bajoran slave labor during the Occupation, for a friend who likewise served on Bajor during the Occupation, and doesn't remotely perceive the irony of asking this aboard a partially Bajoran-administered station.
I notice a distinct lack of him having a problem with the Xindi sending their own representative; he's only annoyed by a Bajoran presence. The Xindi are Federation members by this time just as much as the Bajorans.
Nope, still going with "self-important racist jackhole".
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To anyone proclaiming that the Cardassians must be a wholly unaligned faction... you need to accept that based on the way that the game was designed (and how the factions within it work) that it would be too expensive to go through the entire game code and add a completely separate faction. Whereas adding a Cardassian mini-faction (which I 100% support) is more or less a copypaste of the coding for the Romulan mini-faction. Every single social zone, adventure zone, multi-faction mission (Skirmish among others), every piece of gear, everything in the game would need to be edited at the code level. It's not going to happen.
With that massive requirement done, the only thing left for the devs is to augment existing Cardassian ships to be playable, develop a dozen or so more ships, and add Cardassia zones as well as a Cardassian beginning story line. This is all no small feat. However, they can save themselves a massive amount of work by making it a mini-faction as opposed to a full fledged 3rd faction.
When you see "TRIBBLE" in my posts, it's because I manually typed "TRIBBLE" and censored myself.
Only if they can keep a lid on the True Way and asshats like Rugan Skyl. Or did you forget that they sent that xenophobe to not one, but two major diplomatic conferences in the past six months (in-universe)?
Xenophobe? You know, being a pompous jerk that puts up a strong front while holding a weak hand is pretty good for a diplomat. I personally like the character and thought he represented Cardassians very well. He consistently brings up valid points like "you want Cardassia to contribute to a campaign against the Borg after you placed restrictions our military?" or "Why does Bajor need to be at the conference when the Federation already has more than enough representation?"
He barks loudly, but that's because he or his people lack much of a stick. In a sense, he's fighting harder for his people than anyone.
Let's see:
While on DS9, he asks specifically for a vintage of kanar made by Bajoran slave labor during the Occupation, for a friend who likewise served on Bajor during the Occupation, and doesn't remotely perceive the irony of asking this aboard a partially Bajoran-administered station.
I notice a distinct lack of him having a problem with the Xindi sending their own representative; he's only annoyed by a Bajoran presence. The Xindi are Federation members by this time just as much as the Bajorans.
Nope, still going with "self-important racist jackhole".
To be fair, the Xindi was a federation delegate (he's wearing a federation diplomatic corps uniform) who happened to be Xindi, the Bajoran was a Bajoran delegate (she's wearing a Bajoran uniform and it's stated that she's indeed an independent delegate).
Nope, still going with "self-important racist jackhole".
He's not "self-important". He actually is important, and he finds ways to remind people that he and by extension the Cardassians are important. It's also possible to reason with him if you have good diplomatic skills. I also wouldn't say he's racist. He seems to troll Bajorans in the same manner Russian diplomats would troll the United States during the Cold War. Or the French/English would heckle one another.
Besides, Bajor would likely forget the Cardassians existed at all if they were allowed to do so. It's better to TRIBBLE them off than allow that to happen.
Only if they can keep a lid on the True Way and asshats like Rugan Skyl. Or did you forget that they sent that xenophobe to not one, but two major diplomatic conferences in the past six months (in-universe)?
Xenophobe? You know, being a pompous jerk that puts up a strong front while holding a weak hand is pretty good for a diplomat. I personally like the character and thought he represented Cardassians very well. He consistently brings up valid points like "you want Cardassia to contribute to a campaign against the Borg after you placed restrictions our military?" or "Why does Bajor need to be at the conference when the Federation already has more than enough representation?"
He barks loudly, but that's because he or his people lack much of a stick. In a sense, he's fighting harder for his people than anyone.
Let's see:
While on DS9, he asks specifically for a vintage of kanar made by Bajoran slave labor during the Occupation, for a friend who likewise served on Bajor during the Occupation, and doesn't remotely perceive the irony of asking this aboard a partially Bajoran-administered station.
I notice a distinct lack of him having a problem with the Xindi sending their own representative; he's only annoyed by a Bajoran presence. The Xindi are Federation members by this time just as much as the Bajorans.
Nope, still going with "self-important racist jackhole".
Yep.
And this is why I had fun imagining my Cardassian Fed getting yelled at--and narrowly avoiding a disciplinary hearing--for hauling up Rugan Skyl by the collar for his garbage and for embarrassing Cardassia. My toon has a bounty enough on his head from the True Way for daring to fight them in a Starfleet uniform. He wasn't exactly concerned about adding MORE reasons for the True Way to want him dead.
Though personally I think Skyl didn't "not see the irony"...I think he knew full well how offensive he was being in asking for that Bajoran-distilled kanar and felt protected by diplomatic immunity, to be able to get away with it.
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Except, STO lore is pretty clear on the fact that they are already aligned with the federation, depending on them for defense... so...
Eh, there's nothing to stop Cryptic from just retconning that, like they retconned chunks of the Romulan backstory when they introduced LoR / the Republic.
(Heck, maybe the forthcoming Cardassian arc revamp is the start of that...)
The Cardassians ? Of course yes, probably a fraction same as the romulans, i think it is the way how pull the players back to the game. This will need to create a new character , buy him equipment ( for Zens ). And still I hope in cardassia and ferenginar adventure zones.
The Cardassians ? Of course yes, probably a fraction same as the romulans, i think it is the way how pull the players back to the game. This will need to create a new character , buy him equipment ( for Zens ). And still I hope in cardassia and ferenginar adventure zones.
Thanks for the reminder. The last part in me wanting a new faction is now silent as well.
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The Cardassians ? Of course yes, probably a fraction same as the romulans, i think it is the way how pull the players back to the game. This will need to create a new character , buy him equipment ( for Zens ). And still I hope in cardassia and ferenginar adventure zones.
Thanks for the reminder. The last part in me wanting a new faction is now silent as well.
The Cardassians ? Of course yes, probably a fraction same as the romulans, i think it is the way how pull the players back to the game. This will need to create a new character , buy him equipment ( for Zens ). And still I hope in cardassia and ferenginar adventure zones.
Thanks for the reminder. The last part in me wanting a new faction is now silent as well.
Why?
I feel that a new faction only will have a “wow cool, let’s make a new char and go for it" in the beginning. Later on one will just be stuck with yet another character to care about (out-gearing, upgrades, reputs, spec trees....) I did it 9 times already and probably grow tierd of it a bit. LOR was really cool back then but DR just hang the break even point to make new chars worthwhile too damn high. I have doubts if another sub faction released now would be such a huge success among many players (aside from the 5% Dominion/Cardi fans out there).
New contend without the "need" to do more chars simply feels best for me after the past year.
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I think this may be leading up to a new faction. thoughts?
I believe so, yes. The optimist in me says that we'll likely be getting another major expansion next year, around the time LoR was released....so probably May or sth.? And given the general direction they seem to be going in (although the information is still vague on that front), I think it will be related to bringing around a Cardassian faction.
The Cardassians are popular within the community and the Star Trek fandom, they have a lot of lore available, they are one of the major 4 players in Star Trek and have been intended to be in STO since the game's conception, but sadly they weren't - much like the Romulans and the bare-boned Klingon faction due to the rushed release. Given that DR as an expansion has been more or less of a complete fiasco (my personal observation), I think they need a "good", popular expansion to gather more hype and positive vibes and probably best way of doing that is releasing a new faction (RR style) and giving people what they asked for for a long time. As LoR has proven that equals $$$.
In addition, you will also note that the Cardassians are the only major species from which we don't have access to Boffs, uniforms, weaponry, species specific hairstyles and skin marks in the alien creator, playable (not even premium) characters and only a single ship in a lockbox (unlike other lockboxes) that was called "a big mistake" by a previous EP.
So yeah, I believe they are and have been keeping them for a faction release. They were always going to make it in STO, it was just a matter of time and I believe that time is finally coming at last, for all Cardassian fans.
I for one, look forward to working with Garak for the Union!
DR is a great expansion. It'll take a year for it to be fully fleshed out, but it laid an incredible amount of ground work for the game's growth into the future. Even now I'm just about finished getting one of my characters specialization trees finished.
something occured to me: the cardassians will have learned some things from the dominion which could affect their ships quite a bit. could be some very limited breen influence as well. include whatever the feds shared with them and we could have some very creative ships.
Except, STO lore is pretty clear on the fact that they are already aligned with the federation, depending on them for defense... so...
Eh, there's nothing to stop Cryptic from just retconning that, like they retconned chunks of the Romulan backstory when they introduced LoR / the Republic.
(Heck, maybe the forthcoming Cardassian arc revamp is the start of that...)
They didn't rewrite the Path to 2409 when they added the Republic. Absolutely nothing in that document, even as far back as the Wayback Machine's last save of the original webpage, conflicts with LOR material. In fact they actually used some of it directly: there's mentions that Romulan naval crews got sick and tired of the constant changes of government and deserted, which seems to be the backstory of the colonists who arrived on Virinat aboard the T'liss you start with (off the top of my head, D'vex, Malem, and Nevala were all on board).
"Great War! / And I cannot take more! / Great tour! / I keep on marching on / I play the great score / There will be no encore / Great War! / The War to End All Wars"
— Sabaton, "Great War"
Except, STO lore is pretty clear on the fact that they are already aligned with the federation, depending on them for defense... so...
Eh, there's nothing to stop Cryptic from just retconning that, like they retconned chunks of the Romulan backstory when they introduced LoR / the Republic.
(Heck, maybe the forthcoming Cardassian arc revamp is the start of that...)
They didn't rewrite the Path to 2409 when they added the Republic. Absolutely nothing in that document, even as far back as the Wayback Machine's last save of the original webpage, conflicts with LOR material. In fact they actually used some of it directly: there's mentions that Romulan naval crews got sick and tired of the constant changes of government and deserted, which seems to be the backstory of the colonists who arrived on Virinat aboard the T'liss you start with (off the top of my head, D'vex, Malem, and Nevala were all on board).
They didn't rewrite it, but they added new lines to include the Romulan Republic where it previously wasn't mentioned.
Except, STO lore is pretty clear on the fact that they are already aligned with the federation, depending on them for defense... so...
Eh, there's nothing to stop Cryptic from just retconning that, like they retconned chunks of the Romulan backstory when they introduced LoR / the Republic.
(Heck, maybe the forthcoming Cardassian arc revamp is the start of that...)
They didn't rewrite the Path to 2409 when they added the Republic. Absolutely nothing in that document, even as far back as the Wayback Machine's last save of the original webpage, conflicts with LOR material. In fact they actually used some of it directly: there's mentions that Romulan naval crews got sick and tired of the constant changes of government and deserted, which seems to be the backstory of the colonists who arrived on Virinat aboard the T'liss you start with (off the top of my head, D'vex, Malem, and Nevala were all on board).
They didn't rewrite it, but they added new lines to include the Romulan Republic where it previously wasn't mentioned.
I'm going to call "citation needed" on that. Either the wiki is incomplete (and it was last updated March 2015, BTW), or you're confusing the Path to 2409 with the "History of New Romulus" accolades.
"Great War! / And I cannot take more! / Great tour! / I keep on marching on / I play the great score / There will be no encore / Great War! / The War to End All Wars"
— Sabaton, "Great War"
it needs to be a full faction with there own story, i feel the romulan playable toon was just not all that it should have been so i dont use it or remake another toon on that side. if you do it this time do it right
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The story can be changed any time the devs want (they did that when they added the Romulan Republic), Cardassians had more time to rebuild and control more territory than the Romulan Republic, yet the republic, in-game, looks almost on par with the Klingons and the Federation, still, I think you are right about the subfaction, but for other reasons, making a whole new faction is too much time and resource consuming.
Yes but
"in the aftermath was the state of Cardassia Prime. Eight hundred million civilians had been killed by the Jem'Hadar, including many of the best and brightest minds in the Cardassian Union."
That's a lot to recover from in just 3 and a half decades...plus if I recall didn't the Cardassians sign some kind of agreement that they would not rebuild their military?
0.8 billion cardassians civilians died 35 years ago.
4.2 billion Romulans died because of the Hobus supernova, 5 times more people died during the supernova than Cardassians during the dominion war, that was 23 years ago (in-game time), I think the game mentions, during Romulan character creation, that about 1 billion Romulans survived (but I'm not entirely sure), survivors got scattered and divided between the Empire remnants, the Romulan Republic and unaligned colonies, both the Romulan Republic and unaligned colonies where continuously attacked by Elachi, True way and Hirogen, some colonies where destroyed entirely.
Cardassians agreed to reform their military force to a self defense force and made a mutual defense pact with the federation, in exchange, the federation sent aid to rebuild Cardassian infrastructure and economy, by 2392 they made several reforms and trade agreements to improve industry, economy and population growth.
Unlike Romulans, Cardassians had several allies, the Klaestrons, the Valerians, the Lissepians and the Xepolites (plus Ferengi and Federation aid) to help them rebuild during that 35 years.
I find more unrealistic that the Romulan republic went from ragtag band of refugees with no planet to superpower, in just one year, capable of fighting against the Iconian, the Voth, the borg, the Undine and capable of sending an expeditionary force to the Delta quadrant.
Only if they can keep a lid on the True Way and asshats like Rugan Skyl. Or did you forget that they sent that xenophobe to not one, but two major diplomatic conferences in the past six months (in-universe)?
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And this lore is well founded. The Cardassians have every reason to hate the Klingons for their attacks in '72...and with the Klingons repeating the same behavior in 2407, a self-respecting Cardassian is likely IMO to believe the Klingons have not changed. I think the only two choices a Cardassian would make would be accepting the alignment with the Federation in some form or fashion, or favoring isolationism.
Like I said, giving me the uniform would be quite enough.
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Xenophobe? You know, being a pompous jerk that puts up a strong front while holding a weak hand is pretty good for a diplomat. I personally like the character and thought he represented Cardassians very well. He consistently brings up valid points like "you want Cardassia to contribute to a campaign against the Borg after you placed restrictions our military?" or "Why does Bajor need to be at the conference when the Federation already has more than enough representation?"
He barks loudly, but that's because he or his people lack much of a stick. In a sense, he's fighting harder for his people than anyone.
Let's see:
Nope, still going with "self-important racist jackhole".
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With that massive requirement done, the only thing left for the devs is to augment existing Cardassian ships to be playable, develop a dozen or so more ships, and add Cardassia zones as well as a Cardassian beginning story line. This is all no small feat. However, they can save themselves a massive amount of work by making it a mini-faction as opposed to a full fledged 3rd faction.
To be fair, the Xindi was a federation delegate (he's wearing a federation diplomatic corps uniform) who happened to be Xindi, the Bajoran was a Bajoran delegate (she's wearing a Bajoran uniform and it's stated that she's indeed an independent delegate).
He's not "self-important". He actually is important, and he finds ways to remind people that he and by extension the Cardassians are important. It's also possible to reason with him if you have good diplomatic skills. I also wouldn't say he's racist. He seems to troll Bajorans in the same manner Russian diplomats would troll the United States during the Cold War. Or the French/English would heckle one another.
Besides, Bajor would likely forget the Cardassians existed at all if they were allowed to do so. It's better to TRIBBLE them off than allow that to happen.
Yep.
And this is why I had fun imagining my Cardassian Fed getting yelled at--and narrowly avoiding a disciplinary hearing--for hauling up Rugan Skyl by the collar for his garbage and for embarrassing Cardassia. My toon has a bounty enough on his head from the True Way for daring to fight them in a Starfleet uniform. He wasn't exactly concerned about adding MORE reasons for the True Way to want him dead.
Though personally I think Skyl didn't "not see the irony"...I think he knew full well how offensive he was being in asking for that Bajoran-distilled kanar and felt protected by diplomatic immunity, to be able to get away with it.
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Eh, there's nothing to stop Cryptic from just retconning that, like they retconned chunks of the Romulan backstory when they introduced LoR / the Republic.
(Heck, maybe the forthcoming Cardassian arc revamp is the start of that...)
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Why?
I feel that a new faction only will have a “wow cool, let’s make a new char and go for it" in the beginning. Later on one will just be stuck with yet another character to care about (out-gearing, upgrades, reputs, spec trees....) I did it 9 times already and probably grow tierd of it a bit. LOR was really cool back then but DR just hang the break even point to make new chars worthwhile too damn high. I have doubts if another sub faction released now would be such a huge success among many players (aside from the 5% Dominion/Cardi fans out there).
New contend without the "need" to do more chars simply feels best for me after the past year.
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I believe so, yes. The optimist in me says that we'll likely be getting another major expansion next year, around the time LoR was released....so probably May or sth.? And given the general direction they seem to be going in (although the information is still vague on that front), I think it will be related to bringing around a Cardassian faction.
The Cardassians are popular within the community and the Star Trek fandom, they have a lot of lore available, they are one of the major 4 players in Star Trek and have been intended to be in STO since the game's conception, but sadly they weren't - much like the Romulans and the bare-boned Klingon faction due to the rushed release. Given that DR as an expansion has been more or less of a complete fiasco (my personal observation), I think they need a "good", popular expansion to gather more hype and positive vibes and probably best way of doing that is releasing a new faction (RR style) and giving people what they asked for for a long time. As LoR has proven that equals $$$.
In addition, you will also note that the Cardassians are the only major species from which we don't have access to Boffs, uniforms, weaponry, species specific hairstyles and skin marks in the alien creator, playable (not even premium) characters and only a single ship in a lockbox (unlike other lockboxes) that was called "a big mistake" by a previous EP.
So yeah, I believe they are and have been keeping them for a faction release. They were always going to make it in STO, it was just a matter of time and I believe that time is finally coming at last, for all Cardassian fans.
I for one, look forward to working with Garak for the Union!
They didn't rewrite the Path to 2409 when they added the Republic. Absolutely nothing in that document, even as far back as the Wayback Machine's last save of the original webpage, conflicts with LOR material. In fact they actually used some of it directly: there's mentions that Romulan naval crews got sick and tired of the constant changes of government and deserted, which seems to be the backstory of the colonists who arrived on Virinat aboard the T'liss you start with (off the top of my head, D'vex, Malem, and Nevala were all on board).
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They didn't rewrite it, but they added new lines to include the Romulan Republic where it previously wasn't mentioned.
I'm going to call "citation needed" on that. Either the wiki is incomplete (and it was last updated March 2015, BTW), or you're confusing the Path to 2409 with the "History of New Romulus" accolades.
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