Dyson Sphere was interesting but short. Delta was fun but had too many forced patrols. So I guess that means Iconian was my favorite out of these three.
Dyson Sphere was interesting but short. Delta was fun but had too many forced patrols. So I guess that means Iconian was my favorite out of these three.
I to would have preferred more original missions in the delta quadrant that focused on developing story and wish it left more patrols as optional content when captain's wanted to visit each system. Although Delta was very refreshing in that their was a lot of more available missions than had been released in a long time. I'll admit I like most people loved the Iconian content especially the way the series ended, but really would have also liked to have seen 1 or two more missions in the Iconian storyline.
Delta - Most fun and best story. Lot of good stories to keep you going, and really fun to do. I'm not taking in effect where you have to patrol or try to level between them.
Dyson - Very good story and fun as well. But it was too short.
Iconian - Horrible story good action. The story was rushed, and felt like they wasn't even trying. It was good until House of Fools, then it went down the drain after that.
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Out of the 3, I'd have to say Iconian. Dyson didn't really have a story, and because of the patrols, I'd rather run the cardassian arc 6 times than run the Delta story once.
Out of the 3, I'd have to say Iconian. Dyson didn't really have a story, and because of the patrols, I'd rather run the cardassian arc 6 times than run the Delta story once.
I find those forced patrols more of a turn off than a recent picture of Kes.
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Going back to replay the story missions (excluding patrols) I really enjoyed the Delta arc.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
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Delta: If you can overlook the forced patrol non-episodes, Delta was actually my favorite in terms of story. The actual missions were all interesting and high-quality. Unfortunately, Cryptic really dropped the ball by:
1) Abolishing the previously-established concept repeating missions to get special rewards, should you discard them at some point. That means hang onto your kobali split beam rifle, vaadwaur polaron pulsewave pistol, chained antiproton gun, etc unless you're okay with never being able to replace them. At least not for the time being.
2) All the patrols really get in the way of the story flow. Now that Delta Rising is over, they really should just pull them out and instead, unlock them automatically.
Dyson: This would be my favorite if it wasn't so short and lacking a complete story. Contrary to that, the episodes are some of the longest and most polished in the game, making for great gameplay the first time, but a headache when you replay them. Most notably, step between stars for the solanae set and surface tention for both traits, the counter-command console, and maybe the counter-command kit. Oh, and 2 out of the 3 missions throw you into a foreign ship, giving you that annoying moment of downtime where you rearrange all the keybinds to be usable before you can continue playing. I hate that TRIBBLE so much.
Iconian: Saying it's a "horrible" story isn't entirely fair, although it's far from Cryptic's best work. On the plus side, the heralds are pretty interesting foes to fight (imo, anyway) since they require that you pay attention to your surroundings rather than the usual mindless behavior most enemies are known for. The whole arc is also a total monty haul, so ready your loot bags! At least this time, everything in the arc is actually a mission.
My write-in vote would be the Romulan story arc. I think that's the best written overall. Villains you get to know and hate and finally defeat (even if Hakeev is sometimes a bit over the top). Personal stakes.
Otherwise... Hmm. The Dyson Sphere content had a neat exploration aspect with it that still had a strong plot - finding the Dyson Sphere in the first place after activating the Gateway on New Romulus, exploring the station near the star.
I think the Delta Rising arc suffered a bit from how it used the Star Trek alumni. I think it felt a bit too much like a VOY sight-seeing show. But that said, Dust-to-Dust did it pretty well. But they did good in introducing a major villain early on, making it a bit more satisfying to finally defeat him. (Similar to Hakeev, except Hakeev was used even more prominently).
The Iconian War - I think it could have been longer, and it needed more stuff in-game happening. They didn't do that for the 2800 arc either (you could still visit DS9 while the Jem'Hadar supposedly had it under control), but the Iconian War was the grand finale of a long story arc. It might have needed more resources than any previous story arc to implement that, of course.
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I enjoyed both the Dyson story and the Iconian War.
I did not however, enjoy the Delta campaign at all. I'm slogging through it again right now on my new KDF Romulan and it's just brutal. I just need to complete through the Kobali Ground missions so I can start getting easy Marks/Data Probes. Playing through it again reminds me how much I hated it.. I don't like any mission in the entire arc.
Dyson and Iconian had some fun parts, but the Delta arc is painfully bad.
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Like a badass I shall make him look, and in the furnace of war I shall forge him.
he shall be of iron will and steely sinew.
In great armour I shall clad him and with the mightiest weapons he shall be armed.
He will be untouched by plague or disease; no sickness shall blight him.
He shall have such tactics, strategies and machines that no foe will best him in battle.
He is my answer to cryptic logic, he is the Defender of my Romulan Crew.
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I enjoyed both the Dyson story and the Iconian War.
I did not however, enjoy the Delta campaign at all. I'm slogging through it again right now on my new KDF Romulan and it's just brutal. I just need to complete through the Kobali Ground missions so I can start getting easy Marks/Data Probes. Playing through it again reminds me how much I hated it.. I don't like any mission in the entire arc.
Dyson and Iconian had some fun parts, but the Delta arc is painfully bad.
If you ignored the craptastic patrol missions entirely and only counted the actual missions, would you still hate the delta arc?
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I liked the Delta arc most out of the choices presented.
I was lucky in that the first time I played through it I had Captain that took full advantage of a bonus XP weekend, so I was able to play through the entire thing at my own pace with no walls getting in the way.
I'll be honest and say I also like the patrols quite a lot. We actually got out to see the quadrant, to actually patrol as military ships should have and to see some alternate stories going on alongside the main plot. It is really the only way other races would get some air time.
Dyson and Iconian plots are lukewarm for me, I didn't enjoy them as much.
The question asks which arc did you find the most fun and presents you with 3 options. Maybe it would be more clear if it said "which of these 3...", but that is implied by the choices.
Having the option of none of the above makes no sense.
Poll is a bit flawed as it doesn't include ALL the story arcs.
I really felt the best official one was the Romulan story arc. It's too bad you have to choose to become a Fed or Klingon aligned person at the end of it though. Would be nice to have the Romulans as a true, full faction (they could still use the existing Fed/Klingon content to run through)
That said, there are a couple of Foundry Story arcs that I really enjoyed that rival the Cryptic content. It's just too bad you can't find them because of the terrible UI currently in place (see sig).
I pick the Romulan Arc, but since that's not a choice, I had to go with the Dyson Arc. Exploration, and FUN. 2 things Delta and Iconian Arcs do not have.
Delta is just forced Patrol grind fest and Iconian Arc is just TRIBBLE poor writing forcing us to listen to Sela's unimportant blabbering. Why we can't just shoot her in the head, I don't know.
None of the above. The Romulan Republic leveling story beats all of them put together.
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Poll is a bit flawed as it doesn't include ALL the story arcs.
You are free to create your own poll, which would be geared toward an audience who have played none of the content.
This poll is for me to choose which of the 3 arcs listed to start next. Telling me how much you loved the Rom arc is irrelevant as I've already done the Rom arc. And I agree, it was refreshing to explore New Romulus, a much more open world than we've had in STO up to that point.
Out of those, Dyson. The Delta arc forces the player to act like a dumb subordinate to lower-ranked NPCs too much, especially bad when played as a Klingon or Romulan. And the level of threat the Heralds are given in the Iconian story is so far beyond their gameplay representation it just can't be taken seriously.
Poll is a bit flawed as it doesn't include ALL the story arcs.
You are free to create your own poll, which would be geared toward an audience who have played none of the content.
This poll is for me to choose which of the 3 arcs listed to start next. Telling me how much you loved the Rom arc is irrelevant as I've already done the Rom arc. And I agree, it was refreshing to explore New Romulus, a much more open world then we've had in STO up to that point.
Okay, fine. Of those listed:
The Dyson Sphere has decent missions and great art, but it's too short (most of the missions are just tutorials for the adventure zone), and fails the "show, don't tell" rule in the first five minutes by not letting us see the negotiations with the Voth that supposedly went south offscreen. Also, it has full admirals being ordered around by an O-5 subcommander, blatantly disregards prior canon that use of transporters reveals Undine infiltrators, and papers over Klingon war crimes and unprovoked aggression to blame the entire war on the Federation. Finally, which idiot invited that racist TRIBBLE Rugan Skyl, and did somebody give that idiot Ferengi the wrong briefing materials? Because he was trying to turn a conference on a military threat to talk about business opportunities. This seriously should have been a dialog option:
PC: Mr. Ambassador, is the Ferengi Alliance prepared to contribute militarily to the defense of the quadrant? Ambassador: No, but come look at my business prop-- PC: Security, please escort the ambassador out. The grown-ups are talking.
And then we have the first demonstration of the Iconian cutscene incompetence field when M'Tara is able to gate into a roomful of heavily armed combat veterans, casually incinerate the Klingon High Council, make some very oddly worded threats about "attracting our attention" (attract your attention? THIS CATASTROPHE WAS YOUR IDEA, JACKASS!) and then leave, and nobody even tries to take a potshot at him.
The DQ arc is pretty good if you skip the Purity Sue Kobali graverobbers and Neelix forcing you to be his errand girl in "Reunion". (That mission seriously needs to be updated with an option to tell Neelix where he can shove it and skip the entire stage.) And Gaul is Cryptic's best villain by far: think Hakeev minus the hamminess that makes him hard to take seriously. Although "All That Glitters" should have contained an option for Romulan PCs to give Gaul a "The Reason You Suck" Speech, given that what he went through because he lost a war of conquest pales in comparison to the Romulans being betrayed to their destruction by one of their own.
The Blog War started well--"Blood of the Ancients" wasn't half-bad and "Delta Flight" is one of my favorite missions--but Cryptic didn't work hard enough to make the galaxy actually look like it was under attack outside the episodes. As for the other missions:
"Time in a TRIBBLE": Boring and technobabbly, and why the hell are the Iconians having a strategy meeting in enemy territory rather than back at the Herald Sphere?
"House Pratfall": If House Pegh represents the Klingons' top special operations forces, then clearly the Klingons couldn't carry off a successful covert ops mission if they stamped a KDF logo on a Mossad operation. Kahless died because he was stupid.
"Broken Brain": Protip: A frontal assault on a heavily fortified enemy position only works when the zillion-to-one odds are slanted in your favor. That plan was suicide from the get-go; it should've either been a plan to distract from using a technobabble superweapon against the Herald Sphere--so far I've proposed torpedoing the Iconian sun with trilithium, and detonating Omega particles to eliminate the Iconians' ability to move forces, and there's also red matter thanks to JJ Abrams--or have been rejected out of hand and Zapp Kagran fired.
"Butt-fly": Jesus frakking Christ ran three laps around the church, Star Trek, how many gorram times do you have to stick your hand in the time-travel fire before you figure out it burns???
"Midnight": Too much shilling of the Iconians as misunderstood, broken good guys, and they and Sela get given a free pass for crimes against sentience. THEY MADE A CHOICE. THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS.
I'm actually surprised to say this but Delta Rising is the only one of the three that didn't leave me with a bad taste in my mouth.
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I'm debating which of those 3 to start next. You decide!
Edit: Clarified for those confused.
I to would have preferred more original missions in the delta quadrant that focused on developing story and wish it left more patrols as optional content when captain's wanted to visit each system. Although Delta was very refreshing in that their was a lot of more available missions than had been released in a long time. I'll admit I like most people loved the Iconian content especially the way the series ended, but really would have also liked to have seen 1 or two more missions in the Iconian storyline.
Delta - Most fun and best story. Lot of good stories to keep you going, and really fun to do. I'm not taking in effect where you have to patrol or try to level between them.
Dyson - Very good story and fun as well. But it was too short.
Iconian - Horrible story good action. The story was rushed, and felt like they wasn't even trying. It was good until House of Fools, then it went down the drain after that.
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I find those forced patrols more of a turn off than a recent picture of Kes.
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best period, would be the KDF only story arcs. and no I can't pick just one. :P
with romulan arcs very close behind.
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Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
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'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
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1) Abolishing the previously-established concept repeating missions to get special rewards, should you discard them at some point. That means hang onto your kobali split beam rifle, vaadwaur polaron pulsewave pistol, chained antiproton gun, etc unless you're okay with never being able to replace them. At least not for the time being.
2) All the patrols really get in the way of the story flow. Now that Delta Rising is over, they really should just pull them out and instead, unlock them automatically.
Dyson: This would be my favorite if it wasn't so short and lacking a complete story. Contrary to that, the episodes are some of the longest and most polished in the game, making for great gameplay the first time, but a headache when you replay them. Most notably, step between stars for the solanae set and surface tention for both traits, the counter-command console, and maybe the counter-command kit. Oh, and 2 out of the 3 missions throw you into a foreign ship, giving you that annoying moment of downtime where you rearrange all the keybinds to be usable before you can continue playing. I hate that TRIBBLE so much.
Iconian: Saying it's a "horrible" story isn't entirely fair, although it's far from Cryptic's best work. On the plus side, the heralds are pretty interesting foes to fight (imo, anyway) since they require that you pay attention to your surroundings rather than the usual mindless behavior most enemies are known for. The whole arc is also a total monty haul, so ready your loot bags! At least this time, everything in the arc is actually a mission.
Otherwise... Hmm. The Dyson Sphere content had a neat exploration aspect with it that still had a strong plot - finding the Dyson Sphere in the first place after activating the Gateway on New Romulus, exploring the station near the star.
I think the Delta Rising arc suffered a bit from how it used the Star Trek alumni. I think it felt a bit too much like a VOY sight-seeing show. But that said, Dust-to-Dust did it pretty well. But they did good in introducing a major villain early on, making it a bit more satisfying to finally defeat him. (Similar to Hakeev, except Hakeev was used even more prominently).
The Iconian War - I think it could have been longer, and it needed more stuff in-game happening. They didn't do that for the 2800 arc either (you could still visit DS9 while the Jem'Hadar supposedly had it under control), but the Iconian War was the grand finale of a long story arc. It might have needed more resources than any previous story arc to implement that, of course.
I did not however, enjoy the Delta campaign at all. I'm slogging through it again right now on my new KDF Romulan and it's just brutal. I just need to complete through the Kobali Ground missions so I can start getting easy Marks/Data Probes. Playing through it again reminds me how much I hated it.. I don't like any mission in the entire arc.
Dyson and Iconian had some fun parts, but the Delta arc is painfully bad.
Iconian war was TERRIBLE.
"He shall be my finest warrior, this generic man who was forced upon me.
Like a badass I shall make him look, and in the furnace of war I shall forge him.
he shall be of iron will and steely sinew.
In great armour I shall clad him and with the mightiest weapons he shall be armed.
He will be untouched by plague or disease; no sickness shall blight him.
He shall have such tactics, strategies and machines that no foe will best him in battle.
He is my answer to cryptic logic, he is the Defender of my Romulan Crew.
He is Tovan Khev... and he shall know no fear."
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That would be illogical.
No, that would just be a more unbiased poll.
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I was lucky in that the first time I played through it I had Captain that took full advantage of a bonus XP weekend, so I was able to play through the entire thing at my own pace with no walls getting in the way.
I'll be honest and say I also like the patrols quite a lot. We actually got out to see the quadrant, to actually patrol as military ships should have and to see some alternate stories going on alongside the main plot. It is really the only way other races would get some air time.
Dyson and Iconian plots are lukewarm for me, I didn't enjoy them as much.
Having the option of none of the above makes no sense.
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I really felt the best official one was the Romulan story arc. It's too bad you have to choose to become a Fed or Klingon aligned person at the end of it though. Would be nice to have the Romulans as a true, full faction (they could still use the existing Fed/Klingon content to run through)
That said, there are a couple of Foundry Story arcs that I really enjoyed that rival the Cryptic content. It's just too bad you can't find them because of the terrible UI currently in place (see sig).
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Delta is just forced Patrol grind fest and Iconian Arc is just TRIBBLE poor writing forcing us to listen to Sela's unimportant blabbering. Why we can't just shoot her in the head, I don't know.
Dyson had a good story but was short.
Delta had a good story but it's best if you've leveled some with DOFFing, queues, etc. so you aren't stuck with repeating patrols.
Iconian had a pretty good story with some parts to make you shake your head and sigh.
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You are free to create your own poll, which would be geared toward an audience who have played none of the content.
This poll is for me to choose which of the 3 arcs listed to start next. Telling me how much you loved the Rom arc is irrelevant as I've already done the Rom arc. And I agree, it was refreshing to explore New Romulus, a much more open world than we've had in STO up to that point.
Okay, fine. Of those listed:
Ambassador: No, but come look at my business prop--
PC: Security, please escort the ambassador out. The grown-ups are talking.
I'm actually surprised to say this but Delta Rising is the only one of the three that didn't leave me with a bad taste in my mouth.
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