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players abusing security escort in dyson BZ
thend420
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they will use the ability to have an army of 10+ and just absolutely destroy the dino boss.
I can make it to 2 bosses but get only bare min reward and no final reward because I wasnt allowed enough time to participate thanks to said exploit abusers.
This ability is over powered and being used to grief other players.
Nerf pls...
I can make it to 2 bosses but get only bare min reward and no final reward because I wasnt allowed enough time to participate thanks to said exploit abusers.
This ability is over powered and being used to grief other players.
Nerf pls...
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security escorts aren't that powerful to be honest.
Majority of STO players is Tacticals. Cryptic will never "nerf" them...
This is before Chroniton Jolt nerf - Hardest ground stf completed by Security escort...
https://youtube.com/watch?v=drr4FOIBs4k
I think those guys can repeat it (ever after cj nerf}.
And in Space Tactical FAR more superior than other two classes...
OP, little advice... just reroll to Tac.
If you want more dil, do the patrol circuit or advanced queues.
And if you have the Shard of Possibilities you get a couple clones of yourself.
Though the clones of your character from the Shard only last like 60 seconds, even when you stay in combat. Maybe they need to put a time limit like this on how long each security officer lasts after being summoned so you don't have the potential to build up an entire army.
There might be a limit on how many security officers can be active at a time and after using the skill again, officers summoned first would beam out and be replaced with the new officers. Not too sure on that.
How they nerfed it?
And if memory serves, don't three doff's only grant a chance at spawning the additional security team members? So I guess the OP just got unlucky with the rng. But nerf it? nah it's fine the way it is.
It is only a chance, and truthfully they're not OP, any player in that situation who knows how to play ground can deliver a lot of pain in that situation, wouldn't surprise me if this is a fairly regular occurrence with different builds.
Its like this.
At 1st boss before it even pops.
It dies so fast i dont get more then 10 dil credit.
Run to 2nd boss. its already 1/2 dead.
Another 10 dil credit.
3rd boss dies and i get no final reward.
Damage of OP players in general needs to be nerfed.
More so the abuse of security escort where.. 1 person can solo any dino boss.
No one should be that strong in a level cap 50 area.
AND it is TRIBBLE people out of a fair chance to get credit.
So desipte the trolls witty one line remarks.. It doesnt change the fact that people are abusing the system with an exploit that is causing grief to other players.
So all of you doing it just keep it up so more people complain thus forcing a well needed nerf.
As so many others have stated. It is NOT an exploit. It is using the ability as it was intended to be used. It is hardly OP. If people are able to solo these things, it isn't that shocking. The game isn't exactly that challenging to begin with and even less so when you start upgrading gear and learning to setup your traits to handle specific zones.
If you really find it so busy, try switching to another, less populated instance. That function exists for a reason. Instead, you're coming here and crying "NERF" because all about YOU.
It becomes an exploit when it is abused. being able so solo a boss when there are 14 other people in the area... Yea sure its all about me...
1 person can potientally TRIBBLE over 14 other people... Makes it all about that person...
Not a well thought out arguement ya got there.
People were not soloing bosses when the game was 50 cap. so again no.. it is not working as intended. It IS being exploited due to being over powered now that people are lv 60.
Keep your silly ability fine idc but the damage output in general of lv60s in a 50 cap area... needs to be nerfed then.
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If that's the case, it's not the players' at fault at all, but rather, on the programmers for the not upscaling the difficulty to keep up with current levels and newer, more advanced equipment.
You know how to get away from them dying instantly to that? You pull the threat away from them, and even at a steady jog you'll avoid all the rounds.
The dino's went down fairly quick originally anyway if the team was half decent or the dino in question was in either the city or the outskirts. Thing is the city dino was usually the one to start at as it was the hardest to get to, while outskirts quite often received the mid-way hate as players went to that one next to ensure their second kill. As a result they quite often died horrendously fast (Well in comparison to the Park area Rex anyway).
Also players who build for high DPS on ground usually sacrifice a fair bit of survivability to do it. It also needs to be remembered that the dino's aren't actually made for whole groups, as they couldn't always guarantee a full instance before so it had to be doable with less than a full instance to get all three.
I've personally single-handedly killed a Rex on an Engineer, and I have no doubts that a Science Officer could do pretty well for themselves as well. The problem isn't in Tac officers or specific powers, it's in players not willing to accept some people are just very good at what they do, and that is never going to change.
Is it just me or does this sound like another I can't compete with another player or players, so because I can't step up to the plate I want the rug pulled out from under everyone else?
And if they scale it up to match level 60 then all we'll get is a lot of players complaining that they're getting stomped on by the mobs. I'm just curious and please humor me on this one, how do you cope in one of the Advanced or Elite |Ground STF's?
But on the same side, I could get nerfing it if they were able to do lvl 60 damage in a lvl 50 zone. But...THEY CANNOT. They DO nerf it to an appropriate level. Don't like what happens, I would recommend either upgrading your gear to be on par there, or stop whining about things you don't obivously know they do or don't do.
That's pretty much the gist of it.
Dude...before posting, remember this:
Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt. - Abraham Lincoln
Thats how your posting sounds
Original STO beta tester.
What makes everything you say very stupid is the fact that you seem to just want everything handed to you.
I worked my TRIBBLE off upgrading and getting the best gear the game has to offer TO BE OVERPOWERED not in just ground, but ANYWHERE in the game which INCLUDES GROUND. So you are going to come over here and tell me my gear has to get nerfed even more because your behind down here with common quality gear and probably common Doffs?.. On top of that, the game caps your damage output and heath/shield cap to level 50 to begin with, even farther making you seem like you have no clue what you're saying. And the gear I have which is probably more superior then yours is understandable, it is the damn reason I play this game. Why the heck would I play this game if not for the sole reason of becoming stronger?
You make no damn sense.
Hell, I can solo any ground on my own ANYWHERE, doesn't matter what map or area it is on my Science and Engineer characters, I don't even need to rely on a tactical toon with your so called "OP Security Escorts ability". Bottom line is:
If you can't get to all 3 dinos, that is something normal.
If you can't get to two of them then you weren't fast enough.
If you can't get to at least ONE... You need to uninstall instead of calling nerfs.
I remember back when I first landed in the Dyson Battleground, I was getting my TRIBBLE kicked left and right by the mobs, especially in the very first point found right outside of the park command center. I couldn't even solo that area with all my Bridge Offers with me, and now I almost 1-hit kill everything and it feels great.
I feel very accomplished and that I am not playing this game just for playing. Playing is one aspect, you have to have a reason to play, and my reason is 1-hit killing everything and getting s**t down fast.
The same goes for me actually. But I am tactical rather than the others
Yeah, I noticed that when playing my eng. Would be nice to get more out of it, but I suppose that depends on how powerful turrets are in comparison to security team.
If you can't do well with an engineer toon in ground combat, you might need to check your toon and make adjustments. Engineers do very well in ground combat.
Oh, I don't have any trouble. I just mean I noticed the inability to add more than one doff for extra turrets.
As we used to say in the Navy.. choose your rate; choose your fate.. I have 9 toons and they are all TAC. I have NEVER, I say again, NEVER in 5 years playing had more than 5 Security Escorts at the same time.
Fact is (1) They have no shields; (2) carry MK 1 common weapons (3) Only last 15-30 seconds with no combat and, NO, they will not last from one Rex to the other (4) and they do really stoopid things. Dang.. that sounds like some of the players I've seen in PUGS recently.. :O)
Now, if you happened to an instance where there are a gang of TAC Players, let's say 2 or 3 plus you, I can understand the high numbers of Security Escorts, especially if the RNG was in a good mood and they had the right Active Ground DOFFS loaded, they may get 3 or 5 apiece .. Did you take that into consideration before you started yelling for the NERF BAT for something you obviously have NO clue how it functions ??
I submit, for your consideration, what may be your problem with "getting the reward you deserve" is NOT the amount of Securtity Escorts present, but more than likely is the "bane of the BZ", imho, "Taggers". But you probably don't know about those folks..
You see; "Taggers" are players that will go to the First Rex. get about 100 dps, then leave, go to the next Rex, get some DPS, then go to the final one and do the Kill. They leave behind one or two "real" players that get stuck trying to kill the other Rex's that they "Tag". Needless to say, those left behind players will get left behind in the loot and rewards area as well, and the "Taggers" get credit for all 3 Rex's.
They are the ones that are taking the rewards, not some silly Security Escort. This is a know "strategic" issue since the Voth Ground BZ went live. To my knowledge, no fix has been made for that and it is still a viable tactic. So., if you see some folks run in, shoot a little then leave.. you get the hint ??
So, maybe next time you start yelling for the "Nerf Bat" 'cause you aren't scoring as high as the other guy or loosing "rewards", look at what GEAR they have, what the situation is, and compare that to your gear.
Maybe, just maybe, you may need to get up to speed with the rest of the playing public.... TYVM....
The instances I am refering to are not main toons. More so like how newer players would be geared when they are lv 50 and just starting in dyson.
So the fact is.. Over powered LV 60 people are making things harder on new players/ players what want to farm dil.
No one person should be able to solo a dino boss in under 45 seconds. Definatley not so fast that other players in the same fight dont get credit because it died so fast.
But here we are.
So keep on trolling. Keep this post on top so someone finally notices the problem.
Mass trolling is uaually a good sign that there is indeed a real problem.
And the person that said that the constant nerfs are the problem was 1/2 right. they do keep nerfing it and making things worse but at this point who cares.
Im noticing the abuse of security escort in elite ground que too. The only reason it isnt a problem is because you still get full reward.
As someone stated.. This game is already easy.. Sooo... why abuse exploits?... Oh right because you lack the ability to play with out exploits/broken/unbalanced abilitys.
Sucking out what little fun there is in the game... so you can exploit things... Thus making the game boring for the other players around you.
If you were 1/2 as good as you thought you were.. You wouldnt need to abuse broken things.