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leviathan99
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So we know from what's been said about New Dawn that the Terrans fought their own Iconian War. Quite a lot seems to be hinted about what they've been up to.
This raises some questions:
- If the Terrans have their own Krenim ship, how screwed are we?
- Can they beat their Iconians without a Krenim ship?
- Is "The Other" the Mirror Iconians, then?
- Do you suppose our use of the Krenim ship will create the Mirror Universe?
- Will we ever find out if there's still a Romulus in the Mirror Universe? There's been very little information on them, period, aside from the idea that they seem to be reclusive (Enterprise) and that them arming the Terrans against the Klingons sounded reasonable enough that it didn't blow Sisko's cover when he suggested that while posing as mirror Sisko (DS9).
In my head, I'd played with the idea that the resurgence of the Terrans and their massive fleets were constructed at Romulan shipyards, with the Terrans being setup as a buffer/puppet state against the Klingon-Cardassian Alliance.
The only real clue we have is the Mirror Hakeev DOff. His quote suggests he's not a Romulan supremacist. He's missing Borg implants. He has "Logical" which might imply Mirror Roms are more Vulcan-like and Unscrupulous which implies maybe they aren't THAT trustworthy.
The ships tend to suggest more scientific than engineering prowess but not as pronounced as the Feds/Terrans swap of Tactical and Science. Maybe stealthier, if that's possible, I guess.
This raises some questions:
- If the Terrans have their own Krenim ship, how screwed are we?
- Can they beat their Iconians without a Krenim ship?
- Is "The Other" the Mirror Iconians, then?
- Do you suppose our use of the Krenim ship will create the Mirror Universe?
- Will we ever find out if there's still a Romulus in the Mirror Universe? There's been very little information on them, period, aside from the idea that they seem to be reclusive (Enterprise) and that them arming the Terrans against the Klingons sounded reasonable enough that it didn't blow Sisko's cover when he suggested that while posing as mirror Sisko (DS9).
In my head, I'd played with the idea that the resurgence of the Terrans and their massive fleets were constructed at Romulan shipyards, with the Terrans being setup as a buffer/puppet state against the Klingon-Cardassian Alliance.
The only real clue we have is the Mirror Hakeev DOff. His quote suggests he's not a Romulan supremacist. He's missing Borg implants. He has "Logical" which might imply Mirror Roms are more Vulcan-like and Unscrupulous which implies maybe they aren't THAT trustworthy.
The ships tend to suggest more scientific than engineering prowess but not as pronounced as the Feds/Terrans swap of Tactical and Science. Maybe stealthier, if that's possible, I guess.
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Hehehehe. Reminds me of Iconians' (the forumite) old sig. Always thought that was clever, and so clearly apropos.
Speaking of clever, I like both of these ideas quite a lot.
I miss his old sig....
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colored text = mod mode
This thought occured to me, too, after they announced that the Terran Empire has been fighting their own Iconian War.
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Depends on what soft-canon sources if any they follow.
The novels DO have a Terran Voyager lost in the Delta Quadrant. Just a bit later than the Prime Voyager.
And the comics held that the Terran Empire's forces resisted defeat until Picard took command of the ISS Starbreaker and joined a retreat of multiple deserting ships headed towards the Delta Quadrant. This could tie into why the Terrans seem so strong in STO if we're running with the idea that the bulk of their forces never actually fell to the Klingon-Cardassian Alliance but abandoned their posts, fled towards the Delta Qudrant, regrouped, and re-invaded.
Maybe the ISS Voyager was constructed in the Delta Quadrant and led a charge of new ships built by deserting officers to flank the KCA.
Well, the dev interviews state that the Terrans just ended a war with the Mirror Iconians just as we just ended our war with our Iconians. So they're experiencing a version of what we're experiencing right now.
Retroactive territory control would remind me (in a good way) of the Recluse's Victory battleground from City of Heroes that, I THINK, Geko helped design. It was an alternate version of Atlas Park (the hero headquarters) that changed based on control of "temporal anchors". The two sides would fight and the zone would distort between its "standard universe" hero configuration and a dystopia ruled by the bad guy based on progress made
Imagine Earth Spacedock or an expanded Starfleet Academy where the terrain shifts based on.
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"He shall be my finest warrior, this generic man who was forced upon me.
Like a badass I shall make him look, and in the furnace of war I shall forge him.
he shall be of iron will and steely sinew.
In great armour I shall clad him and with the mightiest weapons he shall be armed.
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Actually, it would be really funny if everything we remove gets added somewhere else.
A hand that remains closed ceases to be a hand. Conservation of mass. All that jazz.
So we "remove" something from our universe and it just shifts over to theirs. ;-)
Meh...I don't really consider those books and stuff canon...from little what I've read things are all over the place...many almost literally universe altering.
The ISS Defiant was constructed in 2372, a year after Voyager was taken to the Delta Quadrant...the Defiant was almost literally the only ship the Terrans had...and they stole the plans for that.
The Caretaker died shortly after Voyager arrived...which means he was dead before the ISS Defiant was even built in the mirror universe. I don't see him suddenly living years longer except as a plot hole excuse to get a Imperial Voyager to the Delta Quadrant.
..could it be they instead figured out how to pull objects out of parrallel universe timestreams? After all, we have no idea of the potential hypertechnologies the krenim might have once erased in other timestreams...
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but suspiria was still alive for a good while after the caretaker's death; she could've always picked up on the caretaker's work in the mirror universe, since she had an array of her own
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Sounds a little like Grand Admiral Thrawn's dreadnought fleet, after the destruction of the second Death Star.
Personally my money is on the Krenim backstabbing us and becoming the next bad guys. Bonus points if they somehow resurrect Anorax and Cryptic get Kurtwood Smith in to reprise his role.