The ENT-era MACO uniform. I don't care if CBS wants it to stay out of STO. I still want it.
And I want it to come with a beret, with the fleet logo as the insignia.
You call that a baret?
If it's not red, it's not a beret.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
For example, let's look at America. Those maroon berets signify paratroopers. And you can't forget about the Army Special Forces with their distinctive green berets. And black is for your standard uniform.
For example, let's look at America. Those maroon berets signify paratroopers. And you can't forget about the Army Special Forces with their distinctive green berets. And black is for your standard uniform.
I understand that. I was just playing the internet game of 'my countries special forces are better then your countries special forces'.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
After watching 'Day of the Dove' in HD there is a pattern of sorts to the pip things.
Kang has two gold ones on the opposite side to his sash, Mara has a yellow and purple one on each side, Kina (the first officer) has a silver one with a little arm on the bottom on either side. The other males have 1 on each side in 1 of 3 colours: purple (the most common), yellow/orange (least common), and a blue/silver (hard to tell from the purple ones unless they are side to side). Oddly the only other female officer doesn't have any pips at all.
As the three highest ranking officers all have different pips it's likely that they represent rank or seniority rather than house or department or anything else.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
For example, let's look at America. Those maroon berets signify paratroopers. And you can't forget about the Army Special Forces with their distinctive green berets. And black is for your standard uniform.
Those aren't US paratroops, those are British paratroops. You're close though, about the beret colours. They don't signify career paths per se, they do denote members of specialist units like the British paras with their maroon, SAS with sand colour, tankers with their black etc. Most British troops wear a dark dark blue regardless of what their role ie. Artillery, Medical corps, REME (aka mechanics), RLC, Navy etc. The only time dark blue wearers would wear other colours is if they are assigned to one of those specialist units (i.e. paras, SAS, marines, infantry etc) or if they passed the all arms parachute or all arms commando course.
The important thing about those, is to forget the colour of the beret and look for the capbadge. That's what will tell you what that soldier or officer does!
After watching 'Day of the Dove' in HD there is a pattern of sorts to the pip things.
Kang has two gold ones on the opposite side to his sash, Mara has a yellow and purple one on each side, Kina (the first officer) has a silver one with a little arm on the bottom on either side. The other males have 1 on each side in 1 of 3 colours: purple (the most common), yellow/orange (least common), and a blue/silver (hard to tell from the purple ones unless they are side to side). Oddly the only other female officer doesn't have any pips at all.
As the three highest ranking officers all have different pips it's likely that they represent rank or seniority rather than house or department or anything else.
COOL! Hmm.... Now I should go and watch the TAS eps with Klingons to cross-reference....
After watching 'Day of the Dove' in HD there is a pattern of sorts to the pip things.
Kang has two gold ones on the opposite side to his sash, Mara has a yellow and purple one on each side, Kina (the first officer) has a silver one with a little arm on the bottom on either side. The other males have 1 on each side in 1 of 3 colours: purple (the most common), yellow/orange (least common), and a blue/silver (hard to tell from the purple ones unless they are side to side). Oddly the only other female officer doesn't have any pips at all.
As the three highest ranking officers all have different pips it's likely that they represent rank or seniority rather than house or department or anything else.
COOL! Hmm.... Now I should go and watch the TAS eps with Klingons to cross-reference....
Yes, I also thought to check the TAS Klingons (they don't have the belts and wear lower cut books with knee pads).
I think the differences in the pips are a limit to the animation but they all seem to be a double layered trapezoid on the undershirt facing in diagonally. All except the council guy who has his on vertically, this could be a bad drawing as he's in the background, or similar to the c.ock-eyed, slapdash angles some of the live action pins were put on.
As they are pretty much the same as each other I'd say they are just a KDF emblem (similar to the gold pins of most of TOS) i.e. all officers wear 2, one on each side of their undershirt.
Kor must just like to set his own uniform standards with different pips. He also has at least two female officers (1 being the 3rd officer) whereas Koloth specifically said he didn't allow females on his ships.
I quite enjoyed watching the TOS and TAS Klingon episodes over the week, so much more rounded than the TNG ones. I want to replace Kagran with Kor or Kang, see if they would favour a suicide attack.
Edit: Bugger off censor, you do not get to censor c.ock-eyed.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
I forget which model uniform it was, but one of the recent STO uniforms, which had the same kind of front/shoulder flap as the WoK jackets, but the collarbone stripe of most contemporary Starfleet uniforms, would definitely have leant itself to being a skant option
After watching 'Day of the Dove' in HD there is a pattern of sorts to the pip things.
Kang has two gold ones on the opposite side to his sash, Mara has a yellow and purple one on each side, Kina (the first officer) has a silver one with a little arm on the bottom on either side. The other males have 1 on each side in 1 of 3 colours: purple (the most common), yellow/orange (least common), and a blue/silver (hard to tell from the purple ones unless they are side to side). Oddly the only other female officer doesn't have any pips at all.
As the three highest ranking officers all have different pips it's likely that they represent rank or seniority rather than house or department or anything else.
COOL! Hmm.... Now I should go and watch the TAS eps with Klingons to cross-reference....
Yes, I also thought to check the TAS Klingons (they don't have the belts and wear lower cut books with knee pads).
I think the differences in the pips are a limit to the animation but they all seem to be a double layered trapezoid on the undershirt facing in diagonally. All except the council guy who has his on vertically, this could be a bad drawing as he's in the background, or similar to the c.ock-eyed, slapdash angles some of the live action pins were put on.
As they are pretty much the same as each other I'd say they are just a KDF emblem (similar to the gold pins of most of TOS) i.e. all officers wear 2, one on each side of their undershirt.
Kor must just like to set his own uniform standards with different pips. He also has at least two female officers (1 being the 3rd officer) whereas Koloth specifically said he didn't allow females on his ships.
I quite enjoyed watching the TOS and TAS Klingon episodes over the week, so much more rounded than the TNG ones. I want to replace Kagran with Kor or Kang, see if they would favour a suicide attack.
Edit: Bugger off censor, you do not get to censor c.ock-eyed.
The councilman and Kaz seem to have the same symbol, but Kaz wears his at a different angle. Kali's seem to be coffin shapes, and Kor's looks to me like a weirdly shaped pentagon with rounded corners.
I forget which model uniform it was, but one of the recent STO uniforms, which had the same kind of front/shoulder flap as the WoK jackets, but the collarbone stripe of most contemporary Starfleet uniforms, would definitely have leant itself to being a skant option
That's the Odyssey Dress Uniform. That would be kind of like wearing a tuxedo and no pants.
I forget which model uniform it was, but one of the recent STO uniforms, which had the same kind of front/shoulder flap as the WoK jackets, but the collarbone stripe of most contemporary Starfleet uniforms, would definitely have leant itself to being a skant option
That's the Odyssey Dress Uniform. That would be kind of like wearing a tuxedo and no pants.
That's the one Well yes, but that's what the skant's all about
After watching 'Day of the Dove' in HD there is a pattern of sorts to the pip things.
Kang has two gold ones on the opposite side to his sash, Mara has a yellow and purple one on each side, Kina (the first officer) has a silver one with a little arm on the bottom on either side. The other males have 1 on each side in 1 of 3 colours: purple (the most common), yellow/orange (least common), and a blue/silver (hard to tell from the purple ones unless they are side to side). Oddly the only other female officer doesn't have any pips at all.
As the three highest ranking officers all have different pips it's likely that they represent rank or seniority rather than house or department or anything else.
COOL! Hmm.... Now I should go and watch the TAS eps with Klingons to cross-reference....
Yes, I also thought to check the TAS Klingons (they don't have the belts and wear lower cut books with knee pads).
I think the differences in the pips are a limit to the animation but they all seem to be a double layered trapezoid on the undershirt facing in diagonally. All except the council guy who has his on vertically, this could be a bad drawing as he's in the background, or similar to the c.ock-eyed, slapdash angles some of the live action pins were put on.
As they are pretty much the same as each other I'd say they are just a KDF emblem (similar to the gold pins of most of TOS) i.e. all officers wear 2, one on each side of their undershirt.
Kor must just like to set his own uniform standards with different pips. He also has at least two female officers (1 being the 3rd officer) whereas Koloth specifically said he didn't allow females on his ships.
I quite enjoyed watching the TOS and TAS Klingon episodes over the week, so much more rounded than the TNG ones. I want to replace Kagran with Kor or Kang, see if they would favour a suicide attack.
Edit: Bugger off censor, you do not get to censor c.ock-eyed.
The councilman and Kaz seem to have the same symbol, but Kaz wears his at a different angle. Kali's seem to be coffin shapes, and Kor's looks to me like a weirdly shaped pentagon with rounded corners.
I think it's because of the static drawing, I'm sure they change whilst in movement. Well, rather an increase in detail as they turn from a drawing into a animated moving image.
As to the image, Kor's are the same as Kali's, it's more obvious looking at the left one. It's possible there could be two variants, a coffin shaped one and a triangle with the top point cut off.
Interestingly, looking at Kaz's it seems to be a looped piece of metal, folded on itself rather than the double layered design I thought it was initially.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
Q's Napoleonic uniform as an off duty outfit would be interesting. Especially considering the combinations people could come up with pieces of that and other current off duty clothing.
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After watching 'Day of the Dove' in HD there is a pattern of sorts to the pip things.
Kang has two gold ones on the opposite side to his sash, Mara has a yellow and purple one on each side, Kina (the first officer) has a silver one with a little arm on the bottom on either side. The other males have 1 on each side in 1 of 3 colours: purple (the most common), yellow/orange (least common), and a blue/silver (hard to tell from the purple ones unless they are side to side). Oddly the only other female officer doesn't have any pips at all.
As the three highest ranking officers all have different pips it's likely that they represent rank or seniority rather than house or department or anything else.
COOL! Hmm.... Now I should go and watch the TAS eps with Klingons to cross-reference....
Yes, I also thought to check the TAS Klingons (they don't have the belts and wear lower cut books with knee pads).
I think the differences in the pips are a limit to the animation but they all seem to be a double layered trapezoid on the undershirt facing in diagonally. All except the council guy who has his on vertically, this could be a bad drawing as he's in the background, or similar to the c.ock-eyed, slapdash angles some of the live action pins were put on.
As they are pretty much the same as each other I'd say they are just a KDF emblem (similar to the gold pins of most of TOS) i.e. all officers wear 2, one on each side of their undershirt.
Kor must just like to set his own uniform standards with different pips. He also has at least two female officers (1 being the 3rd officer) whereas Koloth specifically said he didn't allow females on his ships.
I quite enjoyed watching the TOS and TAS Klingon episodes over the week, so much more rounded than the TNG ones. I want to replace Kagran with Kor or Kang, see if they would favour a suicide attack.
Edit: Bugger off censor, you do not get to censor c.ock-eyed.
The councilman and Kaz seem to have the same symbol, but Kaz wears his at a different angle. Kali's seem to be coffin shapes, and Kor's looks to me like a weirdly shaped pentagon with rounded corners.
I think it's because of the static drawing, I'm sure they change whilst in movement. Well, rather an increase in detail as they turn from a drawing into a animated moving image.
As to the image, Kor's are the same as Kali's, it's more obvious looking at the left one. It's possible there could be two variants, a coffin shaped one and a triangle with the top point cut off.
Interestingly, looking at Kaz's it seems to be a looped piece of metal, folded on itself rather than the double layered design I thought it was initially.
Yeah it's odd how just the one is curved while the others are flat.
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You call that a baret?
If it's not red, it's not a beret.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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For example, let's look at America. Those maroon berets signify paratroopers. And you can't forget about the Army Special Forces with their distinctive green berets. And black is for your standard uniform.
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Yes, please.
I understand that. I was just playing the internet game of 'my countries special forces are better then your countries special forces'.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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Also....Why does the forum think Autism is a swear word?
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Some people like to use it as an insult, for some reason. *shrugs*
Kang has two gold ones on the opposite side to his sash, Mara has a yellow and purple one on each side, Kina (the first officer) has a silver one with a little arm on the bottom on either side. The other males have 1 on each side in 1 of 3 colours: purple (the most common), yellow/orange (least common), and a blue/silver (hard to tell from the purple ones unless they are side to side). Oddly the only other female officer doesn't have any pips at all.
As the three highest ranking officers all have different pips it's likely that they represent rank or seniority rather than house or department or anything else.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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That's a 'maroon' beret, you hat! :P
Those aren't US paratroops, those are British paratroops. You're close though, about the beret colours. They don't signify career paths per se, they do denote members of specialist units like the British paras with their maroon, SAS with sand colour, tankers with their black etc. Most British troops wear a dark dark blue regardless of what their role ie. Artillery, Medical corps, REME (aka mechanics), RLC, Navy etc. The only time dark blue wearers would wear other colours is if they are assigned to one of those specialist units (i.e. paras, SAS, marines, infantry etc) or if they passed the all arms parachute or all arms commando course.
The important thing about those, is to forget the colour of the beret and look for the capbadge. That's what will tell you what that soldier or officer does!
But also have it available for male characters, as is canon.
Well for a quick ref:
http://en.memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/File:Kor,_2269.jpg
http://en.memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/File:Kali.jpg
http://en.memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Kaz
http://en.memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/File:Klingon_council_member,_the_time_trap.jpg
Those do vary in shape somewhat.
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These Romulan outfits!!
Give us these and my wallet will greet you!
And this!
Yes, I also thought to check the TAS Klingons (they don't have the belts and wear lower cut books with knee pads).
I think the differences in the pips are a limit to the animation but they all seem to be a double layered trapezoid on the undershirt facing in diagonally. All except the council guy who has his on vertically, this could be a bad drawing as he's in the background, or similar to the c.ock-eyed, slapdash angles some of the live action pins were put on.
As they are pretty much the same as each other I'd say they are just a KDF emblem (similar to the gold pins of most of TOS) i.e. all officers wear 2, one on each side of their undershirt.
Kor must just like to set his own uniform standards with different pips. He also has at least two female officers (1 being the 3rd officer) whereas Koloth specifically said he didn't allow females on his ships.
I quite enjoyed watching the TOS and TAS Klingon episodes over the week, so much more rounded than the TNG ones. I want to replace Kagran with Kor or Kang, see if they would favour a suicide attack.
Edit: Bugger off censor, you do not get to censor c.ock-eyed.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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The councilman and Kaz seem to have the same symbol, but Kaz wears his at a different angle. Kali's seem to be coffin shapes, and Kor's looks to me like a weirdly shaped pentagon with rounded corners.
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I think it's because of the static drawing, I'm sure they change whilst in movement. Well, rather an increase in detail as they turn from a drawing into a animated moving image.
As to the image, Kor's are the same as Kali's, it's more obvious looking at the left one. It's possible there could be two variants, a coffin shaped one and a triangle with the top point cut off.
Interestingly, looking at Kaz's it seems to be a looped piece of metal, folded on itself rather than the double layered design I thought it was initially.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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Hmm... now to find comparison shots...
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