And are those DBB/omni builds the only allowed build? Or are they the only viable build?
No, who said they were?
Right now, users of one type of energy are allowed to use 2 of these beams while everyone else can only use one. The OP is asking that this be re-evaluated to put all energy types on equal footing. If people want to play DBB/Omni builds then they should be able to. I have one of my ships built this way, and I rather enjoy it. I don't however, want to have to be stuck with AP just because I like this one particular build. It's a very simple and reasonable request.
No need to get all hostile and angry over it, if you don't like the idea.. say why exactly. Just because 'you're sick of it' isn't really a viable reason. The OP isn't exactly asking for the moon here.
Take a breath.. relax.
The double omni for AP is allowed simply because one is crafted and one is a reward for a FE.
If/when another omni beam is added as a FE reward I'm sure we'll get to see an option to equip two omni beams, but until that time all the nagging about using multiple omni beams (correction multiple crafted omni beams) is beyond ridiculous.
Add to that that it has lousy damage. If it where not for the +% dmg on AP Setbonus with the Riftcore I would have replaced it with a regular beam or torp.
That or instead of the Ancient Omni Beam having to be Anti-Proton, let us choose 1 of the damage type we use so that all energy types have the same advantage.
Omni-Directional Beams are not the problem, the problem is BFAW as it is not only broken and triggering the plasma expositions left right and center but it is also the only ability triggering plasma expositions.
No the problem is not Beam fire at will, The problem is players like you who cry because you cant seem to beat it. I beat it all the time. Its not impossible and im tired of people like you crying nerf every time you get popped. People like me who spend hours making builds just to have them cut in half by people like you who cant beat us is BS and you should uninstall the game and go play angrybirds on your moms iphone.
That or instead of the Ancient Omni Beam having to be Anti-Proton, let us choose 1 of the damage type we use so that all energy types have the same advantage.
^^ This... adding an option to the mission "Sphere of Influence" where an Ancient Omni-Directional [Type] Beam Array could be selected would encourage a bit more play for that mission as well as help the players with that build type to be on par without having to be stuck with an Antiproton build...
CM
"Equipped with his five senses, man explores the universe around him and calls the adventure science." - Edwin Hubble
lol, no please. No more power creep, for god sake. And if that happens good bye to any energy type but antiproton. Sure 300%. That will be the last step to crazyness.
To scare you even more Bort is going to present a new system in Vegas.
Great... loadouts 2.0 now with traits......
Call me a daydreamer but I think they will get that one right.
My biggest fear is that they will simplify our character sheets (lvl 0 - 50). Just imagine how many nerfs could go along with it especially addressing endgame consoles like the plasmonic leech or expensive traits like inspirational leader.
You do know that the loadout system was never fully fixed, right? you know that a lot of players still cant change loadouts, right (me included)? please, ask for doing things right in first place, then for other things.. i will never ask for another loadout system when they didnt even manage to do the first one right lol. Its common sense.
The result probably will be a total chaos even worst than the nightmares we had with the original one.
you know there is a real easy fix for this , for most of the energy types , take the Reputation arrays , turn them into Omnis, or have a optional omni type for those sets , easy implementation you can add the ARC to the existing beams or just add a addtional one to the set , that you can have either the omni or a regular array . That i think would work .
it should stay 1 unique... but make it so you can do a full rainbow build if you want to... 1 phaser omi, 1 disruptor omi, 1 plasma omni, 1 tetryon omi, 1 polaron omi, 1 antiproton omi... total of 6 crafted omi, add cutting beam and maybe the ancient anti-proton omi for ships with 8 weapon slots/torps... this game is so focused on single dmg type min/max that how many folks would even use this option besides us lazy folks who control our ship poorly?
I'd love to see all energy types get the 2nd omni option, easiest way would be to just make the ancient one have all options available as somebody already said.
That or instead of the Ancient Omni Beam having to be Anti-Proton, let us choose 1 of the damage type we use so that all energy types have the same advantage.
I kinda like that idea. Simple.
"If this will be our end, then I will have them make SUCH an end as to be worthy of rememberance! Out of torpedos you say?! Find me the ferengi!".
I actually like the idea of having a omni-directional beam array obtainable from the reps, like a tet from the Nukara, Rom from the romulan, and so on an so forth. Add in a option to choose a ancient omni of each type of energy type from the sphere mission that gives more generic verieties. If not for the set bonus of the ancient omni that buffs anti-proton damage i would say you could shift the ancient omni to a kenetic damage type like the borg cutting beam (not really possible with the set-bonus).
Could also create/add a 360 degree turret like beam-based weapon into the game, which is more inline with the damage an power-drain of the turrets. Yet you could go more maybe of a more lance-based beam-turret in that it fires a much higher damage beam attack, which would take much longer to charge-up between firing cycles compared to the more rapid-fire style firing cycles of a turret. I always though adding a lance-type beam weapon to the game for each energy type should have been done, with it having a slow rate of fire an high energy drain per firing would work well into the weapon types with the DHC being the high rate of fire an moderate to high damage option of cannons.
I never understood why beams didn't simpley recieve turrets (exact copies of cannon turrets) so the only differene was in visuals.
Single cannons - Beam emitters
Dual cannons - Dual Beam Bank
Dual Heavy Cannons (KDF exclusive) - Beam Array (FED exclusive)
Cannon turret - Point defense beam (both are identical)
Done.
^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
"No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
"A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
"That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
Omni-Directional Beams are not the problem, the problem is BFAW as it is not only broken and triggering the plasma expositions left right and center but it is also the only ability triggering plasma expositions.
No the problem is not Beam fire at will, The problem is players like you who cry because you cant seem to beat it. I beat it all the time. Its not impossible and im tired of people like you crying nerf every time you get popped. People like me who spend hours making builds just to have them cut in half by people like you who cant beat us is BS and you should uninstall the game and go play angrybirds on your moms iphone.
Me thinks you should calm down and watch your language sunshine. FYI, you DID NOT spend hours making a build, you COPIED it is mostly likely the correct term. Just because an unintended effect has been fixed, it gives you NO reason to rage at a fellow player!
"You don't want to patrol!? You don't want to escort!? You don't want to defend the Federation's Starbases!? Then why are you flying my Starships!? If you were a Klingon you'd be killed on the spot, but lucky for you.....you WERE in Starfleet. Let's see how New Zealand Penal Colony suits you." Adm A. Necheyev.
I never understood why beams didn't simpley recieve turrets (exact copies of cannon turrets) so the only differene was in visuals.
Single cannons - Beam emitters
Dual cannons - Dual Beam Bank
Dual Heavy Cannons (KDF exclusive) - Beam Array (FED exclusive)
Cannon turret - Point defense beam (both are identical)
Done.
Pulse cannons - FED Exclusive (DHC for the Defiant)
Heavy Beam Emmiter - KDF and ROM (the main beam you see on D'Ds and Vor'Cha's, maybe Negh'Vars, I can't remember).
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
Pulse cannons - FED Exclusive (DHC for the Defiant)
Heavy Beam Emmiter - KDF and ROM (the main beam you see on D'Ds and Vor'Cha's, maybe Negh'Vars, I can't remember).
Good catch, although I personally would have treated them like special weapons that come with the ship purchase. So the Defiant would of course get the quad-pulse-phasers (the term "cannons" never was used in canon I think, I wonder where Cryptic got that . It's supposed to be short "beam" bursts) and the Vor'Cha would get the fore beam. The D'D has a super heavy single cannon as it's main weapon, that could either be rom exclusive or (since I don't really recognize roms as a faction) a speicial weapon on D'D purchase as well.
That is, if I had a say in anything which I obviously don't have. Maybe for the better, I don't know
^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
"No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
"A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
"That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
Pulse cannons - FED Exclusive (DHC for the Defiant)
Heavy Beam Emmiter - KDF and ROM (the main beam you see on D'Ds and Vor'Cha's, maybe Negh'Vars, I can't remember).
Good catch, although I personally would have treated them like special weapons that come with the ship purchase. So the Defiant would of course get the quad-pulse-phasers (the term "cannons" never was used in canon I think, I wonder where Cryptic got that . It's supposed to be short "beam" bursts) and the Vor'Cha would get the fore beam. The D'D has a super heavy single cannon as it's main weapon, that could either be rom exclusive or (since I don't really recognize roms as a faction) a speicial weapon on D'D purchase as well.
That is, if I had a say in anything which I obviously don't have. Maybe for the better, I don't know
The D'D's weapon. I've seen it act as a cannon is a gif in someone's sig, but I'm sure it's also functioned as a beam.
Defiant's gun - rapid pulse emitter maybe?
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
The defiant has twin pulse cannons, they are not quad anything!
Canonically the Defiant has no cannons at all, just "pulse phasers" or simply "phaser banks" with a different fire mode. There is one okudagram that shows a phaser cannon that's labeled as such, but that doesn't refer to the Defiant. Anywho, in STO it is a quad cannon because you slot only one item that is supposed to cover all four "cannons", that what makes it "quad"
^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
"No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
"A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
"That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
The defiant has twin pulse cannons, they are not quad anything!
Canonically the Defiant has no cannons at all, just "pulse phasers" or simply "phaser banks" with a different fire mode. There is one okudagram that shows a phaser cannon that's labeled as such, but that doesn't refer to the Defiant. Anywho, in STO it is a quad cannon because you slot only one item that is supposed to cover all four "cannons", that what makes it "quad"
They were in fact, referred to as either pulse phasers or pulse phaser cannons!
And, the qaud name, is a misconception in regards to twin pulse phasers!
They were, in fact, never called that
"On screen, in the dialogue, the Defiant cannons were always called simply "phaser banks" in such episodes as "Second Skin", etc. or just the "phaser array" in "Defiant"
Just because something is on memory alpha doesn't mean it's set in stone. MA authors just settled for the term derived from a Okudagram. The TM uses it and as such it is as good as canon, but if we are pedantic (which I was on purpose this time) they never were called cannons.
The quad name makes sense in in.game logic (why, however, dual cannons and quad cannons or DBBs do not occupy two (or four) weapon slots is beyond me)
^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
"No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
"A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
"That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
Thinking about it, the Defiant's weapon isn't much different from the refit Constitution or the Miranda in the TOS Films, the weapons could be set as beams or pulse beams.
I suppose the only difference is the emitter, the only cannons I can think of are on the AU ships and the NX where they have pop out turret things.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
They were in fact, referred to as either pulse phasers or pulse phaser cannons!
And, the qaud name, is a misconception in regards to twin pulse phasers!
They were, in fact, never called that
"On screen, in the dialogue, the Defiant cannons were always called simply "phaser banks" in such episodes as "Second Skin", etc. or just the "phaser array" in "Defiant"
Just because something is on memory alpha doesn't mean it's set in stone. MA authors just settled for the term derived from a Okudagram. The TM uses it and as such it is as good as canon, but if we are pedantic (which I was on purpose this time) they never were called cannons.
The quad name makes sense in in.game logic (why, however, dual cannons and quad cannons or DBBs do not occupy two (or four) weapon slots is beyond me)
Ok, believe what you like than!
You do know, that the defiant did also have actual phaser arryas/emitters?
But, I guess you knew that already!
And, how does the quad make sense?
The twin weapons, don't function seperately of each other, if you know out 3/4, 1 isn't going to fire on its own!
They are 2 weapons, with twin emitters, fired in pulses!
I was thinking about this today.
Regardless of what energy type i use (and im a cannon snob so my feds use phaser) i always have borg old man anti and one crafted omni.
for my sci's its perfect as it removes to horrid restriction on sci ships but i did realize that it makes my 4/4 ships seem odd.
"It appears we have lost our sex appeal, captain."- Tuvok
I was thinking about this today.
Regardless of what energy type i use (and im a cannon snob so my feds use phaser) i always have borg old man anti and one crafted omni.
for my sci's its perfect as it removes to horrid restriction on sci ships but i did realize that it makes my 4/4 ships seem odd.
I'll see your "snob" and raise you a "grammar snob", it's canon, not cannon.
And I'm the same when it comes to energy types. Phasers for Fed ships, Disruptors for Klingons and Plasma (RomPlas later) for Romulans. So I won't get any "uber dps", I really couldn't care less, I don't play to compete in some fantasy league table.
I've got to agree with the OP on calling for a parity between energy types. For the dps junkies they really have nowhere to go but AP.
I'll see your "snob" and raise you a "grammar snob", it's canon, not cannon.
And I'm the same when it comes to energy types. Phasers for Fed ships, Disruptors for Klingons and Plasma (RomPlas later) for Romulans. So I won't get any "uber dps", I really couldn't care less, I don't play to compete in some fantasy league table.(...)
As a canon super-snob´I have to call you out on the RomPlas weapons - canonically, nobody used "plasma energy" weapons. Romulans use disruptors
^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
"No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
"A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
"That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
I'll see your "snob" and raise you a "grammar snob", it's canon, not cannon.
And I'm the same when it comes to energy types. Phasers for Fed ships, Disruptors for Klingons and Plasma (RomPlas later) for Romulans. So I won't get any "uber dps", I really couldn't care less, I don't play to compete in some fantasy league table.(...)
As a canon super-snob´I have to call you out on the RomPlas weapons - canonically, nobody used "plasma energy" weapons. Romulans use disruptors
I actually like the idea of having a omni-directional beam array obtainable from the reps, like a tet from the Nukara, Rom from the romulan, and so on an so forth. Add in a option to choose a ancient omni of each type of energy type from the sphere mission that gives more generic verieties. If not for the set bonus of the ancient omni that buffs anti-proton damage i would say you could shift the ancient omni to a kenetic damage type like the borg cutting beam (not really possible with the set-bonus).
Could also create/add a 360 degree turret like beam-based weapon into the game, which is more inline with the damage an power-drain of the turrets. Yet you could go more maybe of a more lance-based beam-turret in that it fires a much higher damage beam attack, which would take much longer to charge-up between firing cycles compared to the more rapid-fire style firing cycles of a turret. I always though adding a lance-type beam weapon to the game for each energy type should have been done, with it having a slow rate of fire an high energy drain per firing would work well into the weapon types with the DHC being the high rate of fire an moderate to high damage option of cannons.
My general preference would be to see the different Ancient Omni types added to themed missions. Ancient Omni makes sense for the mission its in.
A second phaser omni might make sense in a certain mission.
Maybe have the Disruptor Omni only available for Klingons, the Phaser Omni in a Fed only mission, the Plasma omni as Romulan exclusive. All other "second omnis" added to missions.
I'd also like to see "second quads" handled similarly.
Add chroniton omni and quads to, say, Temporal Ambassador. Spiral wave quads and omnis could be added when they revamp the DS9 missions. In these cases I'd also unlock the ability to craft basic versions when you get the mission versions.
Have it be that you can get:
One unique equip quad from C-Store.
One unique equip omni from crafting.
One unique equip quad from missions.
One unique equip omni from missions.
For a total of two quads and two omnis. Maybe handle [Arc] weapons similarly.
I'll see your "snob" and raise you a "grammar snob", it's canon, not cannon.
And I'm the same when it comes to energy types. Phasers for Fed ships, Disruptors for Klingons and Plasma (RomPlas later) for Romulans. So I won't get any "uber dps", I really couldn't care less, I don't play to compete in some fantasy league table.(...)
As a canon super-snob´I have to call you out on the RomPlas weapons - canonically, nobody used "plasma energy" weapons. Romulans use disruptors
Well, technically, they did use a plasma based projectile and, so to did the NX class ship at one point use plasma based energy weapons so, the statement would be technically incorrect!
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Add to that that it has lousy damage. If it where not for the +% dmg on AP Setbonus with the Riftcore I would have replaced it with a regular beam or torp.
Agreed with both of these statements!
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No the problem is not Beam fire at will, The problem is players like you who cry because you cant seem to beat it. I beat it all the time. Its not impossible and im tired of people like you crying nerf every time you get popped. People like me who spend hours making builds just to have them cut in half by people like you who cant beat us is BS and you should uninstall the game and go play angrybirds on your moms iphone.
^^ This... adding an option to the mission "Sphere of Influence" where an Ancient Omni-Directional [Type] Beam Array could be selected would encourage a bit more play for that mission as well as help the players with that build type to be on par without having to be stuck with an Antiproton build...
CM
You do know that the loadout system was never fully fixed, right? you know that a lot of players still cant change loadouts, right (me included)? please, ask for doing things right in first place, then for other things.. i will never ask for another loadout system when they didnt even manage to do the first one right lol. Its common sense.
The result probably will be a total chaos even worst than the nightmares we had with the original one.
It's unfair and short sighted that AP should be the only one to have 2 Omnis.
Anyone running DBBs or Torps loses out, unless they choose to use AP.
I kinda like that idea. Simple.
"If this will be our end, then I will have them make SUCH an end as to be worthy of rememberance! Out of torpedos you say?! Find me the ferengi!".
Could also create/add a 360 degree turret like beam-based weapon into the game, which is more inline with the damage an power-drain of the turrets. Yet you could go more maybe of a more lance-based beam-turret in that it fires a much higher damage beam attack, which would take much longer to charge-up between firing cycles compared to the more rapid-fire style firing cycles of a turret. I always though adding a lance-type beam weapon to the game for each energy type should have been done, with it having a slow rate of fire an high energy drain per firing would work well into the weapon types with the DHC being the high rate of fire an moderate to high damage option of cannons.
Single cannons - Beam emitters
Dual cannons - Dual Beam Bank
Dual Heavy Cannons (KDF exclusive) - Beam Array (FED exclusive)
Cannon turret - Point defense beam (both are identical)
Done.
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Me thinks you should calm down and watch your language sunshine. FYI, you DID NOT spend hours making a build, you COPIED it is mostly likely the correct term. Just because an unintended effect has been fixed, it gives you NO reason to rage at a fellow player!
Pulse cannons - FED Exclusive (DHC for the Defiant)
Heavy Beam Emmiter - KDF and ROM (the main beam you see on D'Ds and Vor'Cha's, maybe Negh'Vars, I can't remember).
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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Good catch, although I personally would have treated them like special weapons that come with the ship purchase. So the Defiant would of course get the quad-pulse-phasers (the term "cannons" never was used in canon I think, I wonder where Cryptic got that
That is, if I had a say in anything which I obviously don't have. Maybe for the better, I don't know
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The D'D's weapon. I've seen it act as a cannon is a gif in someone's sig, but I'm sure it's also functioned as a beam.
Defiant's gun - rapid pulse emitter maybe?
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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Canonically the Defiant has no cannons at all, just "pulse phasers" or simply "phaser banks" with a different fire mode. There is one okudagram that shows a phaser cannon that's labeled as such, but that doesn't refer to the Defiant. Anywho, in STO it is a quad cannon because you slot only one item that is supposed to cover all four "cannons", that what makes it "quad"
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http://en.memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Pulse_phaser_cannon
http://lcars.ucip.org/index.php?title=Defiant_class
https://rindastartrekds9.wordpress.com/tag/uss-defiant-schematics-blueprints/
They were in fact, referred to as either pulse phasers or pulse phaser cannons!
And, the qaud name, is a misconception in regards to twin pulse phasers!
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They were, in fact, never called that
"On screen, in the dialogue, the Defiant cannons were always called simply "phaser banks" in such episodes as "Second Skin", etc. or just the "phaser array" in "Defiant"
Just because something is on memory alpha doesn't mean it's set in stone. MA authors just settled for the term derived from a Okudagram. The TM uses it and as such it is as good as canon, but if we are pedantic (which I was on purpose this time) they never were called cannons.
The quad name makes sense in in.game logic (why, however, dual cannons and quad cannons or DBBs do not occupy two (or four) weapon slots is beyond me)
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I suppose the only difference is the emitter, the only cannons I can think of are on the AU ships and the NX where they have pop out turret things.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
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Ok, believe what you like than!
You do know, that the defiant did also have actual phaser arryas/emitters?
But, I guess you knew that already!
And, how does the quad make sense?
The twin weapons, don't function seperately of each other, if you know out 3/4, 1 isn't going to fire on its own!
They are 2 weapons, with twin emitters, fired in pulses!
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Regardless of what energy type i use (and im a cannon snob so my feds use phaser) i always have borg old man anti and one crafted omni.
for my sci's its perfect as it removes to horrid restriction on sci ships but i did realize that it makes my 4/4 ships seem odd.
"It appears we have lost our sex appeal, captain."- Tuvok
And I'm the same when it comes to energy types. Phasers for Fed ships, Disruptors for Klingons and Plasma (RomPlas later) for Romulans. So I won't get any "uber dps", I really couldn't care less, I don't play to compete in some fantasy league table.
I've got to agree with the OP on calling for a parity between energy types. For the dps junkies they really have nowhere to go but AP.
As a canon super-snob´I have to call you out on the RomPlas weapons - canonically, nobody used "plasma energy" weapons. Romulans use disruptors
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My general preference would be to see the different Ancient Omni types added to themed missions. Ancient Omni makes sense for the mission its in.
A second phaser omni might make sense in a certain mission.
Maybe have the Disruptor Omni only available for Klingons, the Phaser Omni in a Fed only mission, the Plasma omni as Romulan exclusive. All other "second omnis" added to missions.
I'd also like to see "second quads" handled similarly.
Add chroniton omni and quads to, say, Temporal Ambassador. Spiral wave quads and omnis could be added when they revamp the DS9 missions. In these cases I'd also unlock the ability to craft basic versions when you get the mission versions.
Have it be that you can get:
One unique equip quad from C-Store.
One unique equip omni from crafting.
One unique equip quad from missions.
One unique equip omni from missions.
For a total of two quads and two omnis. Maybe handle [Arc] weapons similarly.
Well, technically, they did use a plasma based projectile and, so to did the NX class ship at one point use plasma based energy weapons so, the statement would be technically incorrect!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weapons_in_Star_Trek
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