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deaftravis05deaftravis05 Member Posts: 4,885 Arc User
I believe we should do a Terran star trek universe series. It can be a series that starts after the Empress takes Earth and we see how history unfolds there. Once that arc is done, we can move forward to Spock redoing the Terran Empire and eventually his fall as the Klingons and Cardassians gang up and wipe Earth out... Then we can look after the capture of Worf and its fallout.


Thoughts? Their 'mirror' parts can make an appearance post Worf... to give us some humour
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  • captainoblivouscaptainoblivous Member Posts: 2,284 Arc User
    Something in between ent and tos, or between the tmp era and tng.
    NCIStrek has been proposed, which would be interesting, as would a miniseries following the corps of engineers. Another idea I've heard is a series where we follow a couple of people from their first day in the academy all the way through their careers, sort of like how scrubs followed JD, Turk and Elliot from their time in med school through to their first couple of years as doctors.
    That, or a redux of voyager with Mr Moore given creative control!
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  • deaftravis05deaftravis05 Member Posts: 4,885 Arc User
    Ah, scrubs or Grey's but without the horny girly drama? That would be good and interesting. They make mistakes, they learn...

    but an NCIS trek would... be able to give insights in the political and social life of the average Federation citizen... I would do this... post Voyager... starting with the team going over Voyager's ... less than ethical actions to get home.
  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,829 Community Moderator
    but an NCIS trek would... be able to give insights in the political and social life of the average Federation citizen... I would do this... post Voyager... starting with the team going over Voyager's ... less than ethical actions to get home.

    I'm pretty sure Starfleet is aware of everything after they managed to establish contact with Voyager. She did have reports stacked up for when they got home. And although some things may have been less than ethical... sometimes rules have to be bent in a survival situation.

    Doesn't excuse the writers for being so inconsistant however. Voyager was alright, but I do admit that sometimes they just couldn't make up their minds. Too many Chefs in the Kitchen I guess.
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  • hawku001xhawku001x Member Posts: 10,770 Arc User
    edited July 2015
    Star Trek: The Walking Dead, with a post-apocalyptic Borg Galaxy.
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  • captainchaos66captainchaos66 Member Posts: 409 Arc User
    ^^^^^^^ THAT
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  • iconiansiconians Member Posts: 6,987 Arc User
    The NCIS team should try to uncover why Janeway couldn't make up her mind about her hairstyle.
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,829 Community Moderator
    iconians wrote: »
    The NCIS team should try to uncover why Janeway couldn't make up her mind about her hairstyle.

    At least Janeway HAD hair for a hairstyle. Picard was pretty much bald and Sisko WENT bald.
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
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  • deaftravis05deaftravis05 Member Posts: 4,885 Arc User
    hawku001x wrote: »
    Star Trek: The Walking Dead, with a post-apocalyptic Borg Galaxy.


    Oh that raises a possibility of a star trek series in which they do a variety of hypothetical situations. The holodeck they have plays out those ideas... for example, they could run a scenario in which Janeway didn't destroy the network.
  • sovereign47sovereign47 Member Posts: 399 Arc User
    Some post-Nemesis series somewhere around 2380's - 2390's would be mine idea. With Enterprise E and TNG crew (at least most of them, since some of them were promoted like Riker for example) in main focus. Federation, Kligon and Romulan empires are (still) rebuilding their fleets from Dominion war, and Federation helps in restoration of Cardassian Union. Cardassians are rebuilding their fleet too. However, from the distant part of beta quadrant new threat is rising, actually new superpowerful alien race from another galaxy came to set a foothold in our Galaxy and naturally Romulans and Klingons are first on their list for destruction. When alpha/beta quadrant powers discover that, they form a grand alliance including other races like Gorn, Tholians, Ferengi... A devastating war of galactic proportions ensues...
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  • deaftravis05deaftravis05 Member Posts: 4,885 Arc User
    Some post-Nemesis series somewhere around 2380's - 2390's would be mine idea. With Enterprise E and TNG crew (at least most of them, since some of them were promoted like Riker for example) in main focus. Federation, Kligon and Romulan empires are (still) rebuilding their fleets from Dominion war, and Federation helps in restoration of Cardassian Union. Cardassians are rebuilding their fleet too. However, from the distant part of beta quadrant new threat is rising, actually new superpowerful alien race from another galaxy came to set a foothold in our Galaxy and naturally Romulans and Klingons are first on their list for destruction. When alpha/beta quadrant powers discover that, they form a grand alliance including other races like Gorn, Tholians, Ferengi... A devastating war of galactic proportions ensues...

    no... nothing... like that...

    we need to see how the society is, how different things are. What you want... has been done to death
  • jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 10,502 Arc User
    I doubt that a prequel series would be a very good idea, for reasons made plain by ENT - you're constrained by what went before. You can't make any real changes to the universe; all the toys have to be back in the box when you're done, so you don't contradict the "later" series. The limitations placed stifle good storytelling. (You could count the actual good episodes on one hand, and that can't all be blamed on the TCW.)
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  • moonshadowdarkmoonshadowdark Member Posts: 1,899 Arc User
    rattler2 wrote: »
    iconians wrote: »
    The NCIS team should try to uncover why Janeway couldn't make up her mind about her hairstyle.

    At least Janeway HAD hair for a hairstyle. Picard was pretty much bald and Sisko WENT bald.

    Kirk was bald the whole time! And had a man girdle!
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  • jorantomalakjorantomalak Member Posts: 7,133 Arc User
    Heres an idea for a new Star Trek

    Star Trek : Department of health and sanitation

    Motto : We clean up after "Those who boldly go"
  • sovereign47sovereign47 Member Posts: 399 Arc User
    Some post-Nemesis series somewhere around 2380's - 2390's would be mine idea. With Enterprise E and TNG crew (at least most of them, since some of them were promoted like Riker for example) in main focus. Federation, Kligon and Romulan empires are (still) rebuilding their fleets from Dominion war, and Federation helps in restoration of Cardassian Union. Cardassians are rebuilding their fleet too. However, from the distant part of beta quadrant new threat is rising, actually new superpowerful alien race from another galaxy came to set a foothold in our Galaxy and naturally Romulans and Klingons are first on their list for destruction. When alpha/beta quadrant powers discover that, they form a grand alliance including other races like Gorn, Tholians, Ferengi... A devastating war of galactic proportions ensues...

    no... nothing... like that...

    we need to see how the society is, how different things are. What you want... has been done to death

    Well, that's just idea from the book I'm working on. And trust me, most of the people would watch it since there would be lots of action and a decent storyline with new alien species and even another galaxy in the mix. That idea just can't go wrong, no matter if it was done already. If it ain't broke, don't fix it B)
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  • captainoblivouscaptainoblivous Member Posts: 2,284 Arc User
    Some post-Nemesis series somewhere around 2380's - 2390's would be mine idea. With Enterprise E and TNG crew (at least most of them, since some of them were promoted like Riker for example) in main focus. Federation, Kligon and Romulan empires are (still) rebuilding their fleets from Dominion war, and Federation helps in restoration of Cardassian Union. Cardassians are rebuilding their fleet too. However, from the distant part of beta quadrant new threat is rising, actually new superpowerful alien race from another galaxy came to set a foothold in our Galaxy and naturally Romulans and Klingons are first on their list for destruction. When alpha/beta quadrant powers discover that, they form a grand alliance including other races like Gorn, Tholians, Ferengi... A devastating war of galactic proportions ensues...

    no... nothing... like that...

    we need to see how the society is, how different things are. What you want... has been done to death

    Well, that's just idea from the book I'm working on. And trust me, most of the people would watch it since there would be lots of action and a decent storyline with new alien species and even another galaxy in the mix. That idea just can't go wrong, no matter if it was done already. If it ain't broke, don't fix it B)

    The word "cliche" comes to mind.
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  • deaftravis05deaftravis05 Member Posts: 4,885 Arc User
    Some post-Nemesis series somewhere around 2380's - 2390's would be mine idea. With Enterprise E and TNG crew (at least most of them, since some of them were promoted like Riker for example) in main focus. Federation, Kligon and Romulan empires are (still) rebuilding their fleets from Dominion war, and Federation helps in restoration of Cardassian Union. Cardassians are rebuilding their fleet too. However, from the distant part of beta quadrant new threat is rising, actually new superpowerful alien race from another galaxy came to set a foothold in our Galaxy and naturally Romulans and Klingons are first on their list for destruction. When alpha/beta quadrant powers discover that, they form a grand alliance including other races like Gorn, Tholians, Ferengi... A devastating war of galactic proportions ensues...

    no... nothing... like that...

    we need to see how the society is, how different things are. What you want... has been done to death

    Well, that's just idea from the book I'm working on. And trust me, most of the people would watch it since there would be lots of action and a decent storyline with new alien species and even another galaxy in the mix. That idea just can't go wrong, no matter if it was done already. If it ain't broke, don't fix it B)

    The word "cliche" comes to mind.

    bingo. been done to death
  • theraven2378theraven2378 Member Posts: 6,045 Arc User
    edited July 2015
    What about a Band of Brothers and Pacific style series about the Starfleet ground troops during the Dominion War?

    It could show them as raw recruits at the beginning and end with them as veteran soldiers
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    • deaftravis05deaftravis05 Member Posts: 4,885 Arc User
      What about a Band of Brothers and Pacific style series about the Starfleet ground troops during the Dominion War?

      It could show them as raw recruits at the beginning and end with them as veteran soldiers

      That's true... while some things can't be messed with, you can still do a story...

      soldiers assigned to the fleet, you'd see them doing hit and runs, repel boarders, even prepare for the Second Battle of Deep Space Nine and end with them beaming down on Cardassia. You still got your war story and Ben Avery isn't too old to do camos

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    • deaftravis05deaftravis05 Member Posts: 4,885 Arc User
      I didn't say the society of the MU, but the society of whatever they go with. If they go with a NCIS for Star Trek, that's a way to see the society.

      They could always go for a reality show of Star Trek... like Modern Family. Scripted but from a reality viewpoint.

      There are many different possibilities to see the society without having to do it from the deck of a starship. It can be pirates, it can be people who aren't sworn to be good.
    • k20vteck20vtec Member Posts: 535 Arc User
      Considering the Worlds situation today, I Think 2380-90s would be a great time period, perhaps even early 2400, so Visuals in the show can update a bit. IRL the World is a mess with smaller conflict in middle east, and the big ones become more and more aggresive. In 2380-90s, Romulans problem with their senate death and Capitol destroyed would leave alot of chaos. Kinda like today were the World is so unstable. THe ground troop is a execellent idea. Star trek lacks that, we need some boots on the ground damn it!
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    • sumghaisumghai Member Posts: 1,072 Arc User
      I'd personally prefer having a new Trek series set in the STO timeline of 2409~2413, as it is sufficiently far away from the TNG/DS9/VOY era to not be too dependent on cameos by actors from previous series, but still recent enough to reuse ships/assets.

      I also feel that, given the prohibitive costs of building actual shipboard sets, scouting for outdoor locations to represent alien planets or even digital set extensions for a live-action series, perhaps one should consider the alternative approach of simply licensing the IP from CBS and doing the new series in an animated format.
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    • deaftravis05deaftravis05 Member Posts: 4,885 Arc User
      sumghai wrote: »
      I'd personally prefer having a new Trek series set in the STO timeline of 2409~2413, as it is sufficiently far away from the TNG/DS9/VOY era to not be too dependent on cameos by actors from previous series, but still recent enough to reuse ships/assets.

      I also feel that, given the prohibitive costs of building actual shipboard sets, scouting for outdoor locations to represent alien planets or even digital set extensions for a live-action series, perhaps one should consider the alternative approach of simply licensing the IP from CBS and doing the new series in an animated format.

      or... CGI?
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    • theraven2378theraven2378 Member Posts: 6,045 Arc User
      edited August 2015
      valoreah wrote: »
      or... CGI?

      CGI is not cheap either. Star Trek is too expensive for mainstream TV anymore IMO. I don't see any studio sinking the funds into it when they can do a reality show on the cheap for better ratings and advertising dollars.

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      If done right, it could be amazing
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      • sumghaisumghai Member Posts: 1,072 Arc User
        or... CGI?

        Depends on the level of visual style of the characters - some of the CGI fan films / fan art done using Poser, for instance, are dangerously close to or are trapped in uncanny valley territory.

        An idea I'm entertaining for my own fanon is Japanese-style animation instead, which would cost less than a CGI series. Many Trek fans, particularly Westerners, would view this suggestion with extreme revulsion, and I suspect this to be rooted in the preconception that "cartoons are immature" and that anything associated with immaturity is a sign of weakness.

        Contrary to popular misconception, it is definitely possible to depict serious themes and characterizations in Japanese animation. Examples include:

        - Flag, a series about a war journalist attached to a United Nations peacekeeping task force in a fictional central Asian third-world country. As the story develops, the audience will realize that the entire war and the peacekeeping operation is a sham, for propaganda purposes.

        - Yamato 2199, the remake of Space Battleship Yamato / Star Blazers. One episode I'd like the point out as being very Trek-like involves an enemy droid which awakens, slowly gains sentience and attempts to befreind the humans on the ship, but due to a series of misunderstands, ends up being shot to pieces in the end.



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      • jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 10,502 Arc User
        My distaste for anime-stylings is not "rooted in the preconception that 'cartoons are immature'", but rather in the fact that the art style is, in my Western eyes, unrealistic to watch. Further, the motion scenes typical of such work tend to be reminiscent of Ruby-Spears, with no fluidity to the motions - instead, they tend to look almost stop-motion. (I'll cut them some slack on the voice acting, as typically what's aired on US TV seems to be voice-dubbed in English while trying very hard to match the mouth-motions of the original Japanese. This doesn't work very well because the phrases that would naturally be used in the two languages are often of very different lengths, so the English dub is forced to use stilted, unnatural constructions or leave the speaker's mouth waving like an old overdubbed wuxia flick.)

        And apparently Western animation has been overtaken by even worse styles, featuring odd, angular constructions to supposedly organic beings. CGI animation, however (not the "fan-made" stuff, but what's being produced by actual professionals in the field), is looking really good lately - to the point that SyFy has been in preproduction of an adaptation of Larry Niven's Ringworld, something possible only with CGI. (One of the major characters is a Pierson's puppeteer, a three-legged life form with two flat, brainless heads atop long, sinuous, snakelike necks. The heads serve as hands, as well as having one eye each; the brain is located in a bony hump between the necks. Another is a kzin, which does not look like a Caitian or a Ferasan - the tail is supposed to be hairless, and the ears are furless things that can unfold like a parasol, or fold up tightly to cover the earholes. They run about eight feet tall, with a barrel chest that holds a latticelike rib structure. You're not getting either of those with a guy in a suit.)

        On the gripping hand, good animation is expensive too; the only reasons to go with animation is either because you're trying to make a Saturday-morning-quality cartoon, or because you want to use drastically nonhumanoid characters. If you're just going with Trek's standard rubber-forehead humans, animation is an unnecessary expense.
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      • khan5000khan5000 Member Posts: 3,008 Arc User
        I think if I was to pitch a series to CBS I would move away from space exploration. I would base it on the Department of Temporal Affairs and have it be about a crew of a times ship, pulled from various time periods, that prevent temporal cataclysms.
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      • jorantomalakjorantomalak Member Posts: 7,133 Arc User
        rattler2 wrote: »
        iconians wrote: »
        The NCIS team should try to uncover why Janeway couldn't make up her mind about her hairstyle.

        At least Janeway HAD hair for a hairstyle. Picard was pretty much bald and Sisko WENT bald.

        and kirk just had a tribble on his head lol
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