Tales of the War #12

pwlaughingtrendy · July 2015

With the Krenim assisting the Alliance's efforts, the Corps of Engineers are attempting construction of both a brand new ship as well as experimental weaponry! Nog has since headed up the efforts himself.

http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/9442393

~LaughingTrendy

angrybobh · July 2015

yay for Nog.

random909 · July 2015

I hope we get to command this venerable vessel... And it's NOT in a Krenim Lockbox.... But I'll hold my judgement until I have more information provided to me.

smeeinn1t · July 2015

Nog is top dog...

ironmercer · July 2015

..so the poster looks exactly like my character, even wearing my current uniform...I had no idea a bluegill got me!

mustrumridcully0 · July 2015

Ah.. good old Sisko leadership skills. Nog learned from the best.

smeeinn1t · July 2015

mustrumridcully0 wrote: »

Ah.. good old Sisko leadership skills. Nog learned from the best.

That plus a little kick in the butt from Vic Fontaine.

gulberat · July 2015

Yikes, they ARE building the time weapon. This has serious potential to go into territory where they may win the war at the cost of their souls. As "Year of H*ll" asks, are all victories worth winning, and all prices worth paying?

szim · July 2015

mustrumridcully0 wrote: »

Ah.. good old Sisko leadership skills. Nog learned from the best.

Good leadership skills... you're talking about Sisko's temper tantrums?

yorethel · July 2015

Hmm I noticed on the poster beware the signs of infestation "An appetite for live grubs" well that's the Ferengi screwed en-masse...

worffan101 · July 2015

I predict that we will have an entire mission about building this thing, with gratuitous fawning over Voyager that will make my blood pressure spike.

I further predict that it will be named after Annorax, we will somehow know his entire history from the two-parter despite the fact that he lived a normal, happy life in the timeline we know, and it'll look just like the original weapon ship.

OK, that second bit happened in the Time In A Bottle FE, but still. The writing for the last 4 episodes has been so weak that I've barely been able to slog through the (very pretty, very hastily written) missions.

Frankly, I'd rather have one FE every 2 months that actually makes sense and is well-written than a FE every three weeks that's packed with cliches, nonsensical "tactics", the abject incompetence of House Pegh, blatant contradictions of canon, and pointless references to stuff that never happened in this timeline. Guys, I'm playing a Star Trek game. Do you really think I haven't seen Star Trek? I don't need Annorax's history regurgitated at me, I don't need my character to wax eloquent about how brilliant and troubled he was (especially since by all appearances he had no reason to be in this timeline). I want a nice, tight story about bringing the hurt to the Iconians.

Also, if you're going to make the Iconians the completely incompetent hammy posers you've been going with, may I suggest lampshading it? I know that Mass Effect 2 has a Renegade interrupt option at one point when a bad guy starts monologuing; maybe letting us shoot the Iconians in the middle of their lengthy rants about how weak we are? Because these nimrods have literally handed us victory after victory and chunk of intel after chunk of vital intel despite House Pegh's greatest attempts to doom us all through cluelessness.

Anyway. Just my beef with the writing.

I'm sure that the next episode will be very pretty, as will the Krenim timeship. I'm sure that Tacofangs and the art team will be having a ball on it. I'm sure that I will once again stop fighting and ignore the mission objectives just to look around and enjoy the beautiful scenery. But I'm also quite certain that actually playing the mission will require blood pressure meds.

themetalstickman · July 2015

worffan101 wrote: »

I predict that we will have an entire mission about building this thing, with gratuitous fawning over Voyager that will make my blood pressure spike.

I further predict that it will be named after Annorax, we will somehow know his entire history from the two-parter despite the fact that he lived a normal, happy life in the timeline we know, and it'll look just like the original weapon ship.

OK, that second bit happened in the Time In A Bottle FE, but still. The writing for the last 4 episodes has been so weak that I've barely been able to slog through the (very pretty, very hastily written) missions.

Frankly, I'd rather have one FE every 2 months that actually makes sense and is well-written than a FE every three weeks that's packed with cliches, nonsensical "tactics", the abject incompetence of House Pegh, blatant contradictions of canon, and pointless references to stuff that never happened in this timeline. Guys, I'm playing a Star Trek game. Do you really think I haven't seen Star Trek? I don't need Annorax's history regurgitated at me, I don't need my character to wax eloquent about how brilliant and troubled he was (especially since by all appearances he had no reason to be in this timeline). I want a nice, tight story about bringing the hurt to the Iconians.

Also, if you're going to make the Iconians the completely incompetent hammy posers you've been going with, may I suggest lampshading it? I know that Mass Effect 2 has a Renegade interrupt option at one point when a bad guy starts monologuing; maybe letting us shoot the Iconians in the middle of their lengthy rants about how weak we are? Because these nimrods have literally handed us victory after victory and chunk of intel after chunk of vital intel despite House Pegh's greatest attempts to doom us all through cluelessness.

Anyway. Just my beef with the writing.

I'm sure that the next episode will be very pretty, as will the Krenim timeship. I'm sure that Tacofangs and the art team will be having a ball on it. I'm sure that I will once again stop fighting and ignore the mission objectives just to look around and enjoy the beautiful scenery. But I'm also quite certain that actually playing the mission will require blood pressure meds.

neogabi1 · July 2015

Woo! Go Nog!
Also WWSD may have to be my Feddy's new mantra. =P

lucho80 · July 2015

There are.... two.... Krenim..... ships....

worffan101 · July 2015

themetalstickman wrote: »

worffan101 wrote: »

I predict that we will have an entire mission about building this thing, with gratuitous fawning over Voyager that will make my blood pressure spike.

I further predict that it will be named after Annorax, we will somehow know his entire history from the two-parter despite the fact that he lived a normal, happy life in the timeline we know, and it'll look just like the original weapon ship.

OK, that second bit happened in the Time In A Bottle FE, but still. The writing for the last 4 episodes has been so weak that I've barely been able to slog through the (very pretty, very hastily written) missions.

Frankly, I'd rather have one FE every 2 months that actually makes sense and is well-written than a FE every three weeks that's packed with cliches, nonsensical "tactics", the abject incompetence of House Pegh, blatant contradictions of canon, and pointless references to stuff that never happened in this timeline. Guys, I'm playing a Star Trek game. Do you really think I haven't seen Star Trek? I don't need Annorax's history regurgitated at me, I don't need my character to wax eloquent about how brilliant and troubled he was (especially since by all appearances he had no reason to be in this timeline). I want a nice, tight story about bringing the hurt to the Iconians.

Also, if you're going to make the Iconians the completely incompetent hammy posers you've been going with, may I suggest lampshading it? I know that Mass Effect 2 has a Renegade interrupt option at one point when a bad guy starts monologuing; maybe letting us shoot the Iconians in the middle of their lengthy rants about how weak we are? Because these nimrods have literally handed us victory after victory and chunk of intel after chunk of vital intel despite House Pegh's greatest attempts to doom us all through cluelessness.

Anyway. Just my beef with the writing.

I'm sure that the next episode will be very pretty, as will the Krenim timeship. I'm sure that Tacofangs and the art team will be having a ball on it. I'm sure that I will once again stop fighting and ignore the mission objectives just to look around and enjoy the beautiful scenery. But I'm also quite certain that actually playing the mission will require blood pressure meds.

Give iiiiiiiiin to your anger! Give iiiiiiiiin to your hate! You will know the power of the Dark Side!

*Vader throws Palpy down reactor shaft*

All Hail Vader.

turbomagnus · July 2015

I don't know which is worse, that we're appearantly going to be messing with time for our own benefit - Which Never Works. - or the possibility that we'll end up "Year of Hell'd" back to the beginning of 2410, "Surface Tension" and our first direct encounter with an Iconian at the 'end' of the Iconian War...

syk99 · July 2015

Krenim: Okay, so you guys from the Alpha Quadrant Alliance build the weapon and give it COMPLETELY to us. As soon as we complete our mission to undo the Vaadwaur attack to our empire, wich will surely create an alternate timeline, we will give ya the weapon, so you can completely erase the Iconians from time and obviously alter history, wich would create another alternate timeline, probably... Ps: the Krenim Imperium garantee that we will not steal the weapon and use it to alter time to our benefit ;D

arkangel11004 · July 2015

I do agree with Worffan101. I feel that some of the new episodes are great to look at, but that the stories are lacking.

I am greatly concerned about the next older content revamp, which I believe the Cardassian Arc is slotted for. I happened to enjoy the original Romulan story arc better than the new one. Granted I enjoy seeing Sela and the other Star Trek characters, however I don't enjoy the loss of missions, As that's all I play, and the occasional STF. I hope the next revamp is executed differently.

I also agree that the occasional link to previous stories is forced sometimes. I would rather look at the botched together mission art, and have a great story, than the reverse. Apparently, though, people would rather have it the other way. Nevertheless, I am rambling. That's just my view. Perhaps the old stories were too good. Too long, too involved, not enough suspense, too long for the trigger happy people. Perhaps.

Anyway, that's my take on things.

freakium · July 2015

random909 wrote: »

I hope we get to command this venerable vessel... And it's NOT in a Krenim Lockbox.... But I'll hold my judgement until I have more information provided to me.

A certain site has already revealed this ship to be included in a lockbox equipped with a chroniton lance.

gulberat · July 2015

turbomagnus wrote: »

I don't know which is worse, that we're appearantly going to be messing with time for our own benefit - Which Never Works. - or the possibility that we'll end up "Year of Hell'd" back to the beginning of 2410, "Surface Tension" and our first direct encounter with an Iconian at the 'end' of the Iconian War...

Or we find other things we can DO with the ship. Remember that you can beam people on and off the ship--and out of the timeline--without killing them. That's how Chakotay and Paris got transported over there. And I am wondering what happens when you beam the Iconian "Council" to an out-of-timeline location and then transport them back...do they get mindwiped without being killed? Can we tell them what we want them to believe, after doing that? Nasty, but a LOT less nasty than erasing things entirely.

I am wondering if we are going to go up to the brink of using the weapon and back down at the last minute due to finding an alternate solution that the ship will allow us to take.

risian4 · July 2015

wrote:

"Your logic is flawed," the liberated Borg announced. "If time is as fluid as you claim, we are incapable of wasting it."

Loved this part. It's so typical, making it easy enough to read it in Seven's voice

wrote:

the fact that Noye fought with everyone but his wife

Uh oh... someone's wife is present while experimenting with time travel... this does not bode well

arkangel11004 · July 2015

freakium wrote: »

random909 wrote: »

I hope we get to command this venerable vessel... And it's NOT in a Krenim Lockbox.... But I'll hold my judgement until I have more information provided to me.

A certain site has already revealed this ship to be included in a lockbox equipped with a chroniton lance.

Yea, I have seen that. I really am not enthused. Starfleet doesn't have that many OP battleships and really shouldn't. That's would be like getting an iconian as a duty officer. It would severely dumb down the "invincible iconian" idea. To be reduced to a mere duty officer...

Same Idea. That ship in a lock box severely downplays its Over powered awe inspiring nature. Its reduced to a normal ship anyone can have. Nonetheless, that seems to be how they want to play it.

deffjurke · July 2015

I don't think a Ferengi would use the word "gelling".

gulberat · July 2015

deffjurke wrote: »

I don't think a Ferengi would use the word "gelling".

Maybe not on Ferenginar, but Nog has lived in Federation culture since 2369. We are now in 2410. That's 41 years, if my math is correct...a significant amount of time to absorb multicultural expressions and vocabulary.

arkangel11004 wrote: »

freakium wrote: »

random909 wrote: »

I hope we get to command this venerable vessel... And it's NOT in a Krenim Lockbox.... But I'll hold my judgement until I have more information provided to me.

A certain site has already revealed this ship to be included in a lockbox equipped with a chroniton lance.

Yea, I have seen that. I really am not enthused. Starfleet doesn't have that many OP battleships and really shouldn't. That's would be like getting an iconian as a duty officer. It would severely dumb down the "invincible iconian" idea. To be reduced to a mere duty officer...

Same Idea. That ship in a lock box severely downplays its Over powered awe inspiring nature. Its reduced to a normal ship anyone can have. Nonetheless, that seems to be how they want to play it.

I am not fully convinced we are building to Annorax's spec, due to the severe practical and ethical issues. To me, that remains to be seen.

arkangel11004 · July 2015

gulberat wrote: »

deffjurke wrote: »

I don't think a Ferengi would use the word "gelling".

Maybe not on Ferenginar, but Nog has lived in Federation culture since 2369. We are now in 2410. That's 41 years, if my math is correct...a significant amount of time to absorb multicultural expressions and vocabulary.

arkangel11004 wrote: »

freakium wrote: »

random909 wrote: »

I hope we get to command this venerable vessel... And it's NOT in a Krenim Lockbox.... But I'll hold my judgement until I have more information provided to me.

A certain site has already revealed this ship to be included in a lockbox equipped with a chroniton lance.

Yea, I have seen that. I really am not enthused. Starfleet doesn't have that many OP battleships and really shouldn't. That's would be like getting an iconian as a duty officer. It would severely dumb down the "invincible iconian" idea. To be reduced to a mere duty officer...

Same Idea. That ship in a lock box severely downplays its Over powered awe inspiring nature. Its reduced to a normal ship anyone can have. Nonetheless, that seems to be how they want to play it.

I am not fully convinced we are building to Annorax's spec, due to the severe practical and ethical issues. To me, that remains to be seen.

Agreed. I cannot imagine the Federation would use such a device with those kinds of issues. However, as we really have not seen the damage that ship does in this timeline, perhaps the ramifications have not been fully realized.

While playing the new mission with Nog, I was thinking, the Federation would seriously consent to building a deleting from time weapon?

Well see where it goes..

gulberat · July 2015

Yeah, and as I suggested, there are other things we saw done in "Year of H*ll" that do not require actual timeline deletions, that could well make the Iconians vulnerable.

arkangel11004 · July 2015

Yep, there are other options, I am interested to see what comes of it.

I also find it quite interesting they refer to Annorax's destruction by an unknown alliance. They could determine that much, but couldn't see that a certain long range science vessel class has similarities to one of those alliance ships. Perhaps their alternate timeline vision isn't all clear.

sennahcherib · July 2015

if in one of the incoming FE, we must use annorax's weapon, i would skip this FE. it would be totally illogical that the alliance uses this dangerous weapon; or give me the possibility to join the Iconian forces against this alliance full of idiots.

timelord79 · July 2015

The blog mentions them cutting corners, likely to result in the time weapon being useless after a couple of shots. So I guess they will rationalize that the burned out, gimped version will end up in the lockbox. Still as potent as any T6, but not Universe altering OP anymore.

arkangel11004 · July 2015

Agreed _

xylyl · July 2015

Thankfully Nog asserted leadership in such a critically time sensitive (pun unintended) endeavour!

Storyline, lockbox ship, FE aside, what still begs the question for me is why the Krenim with their earlier timeship needed to be defeated by an unknown alliance? Once the timeship is completed, the my advice is: When dealing with the Krenim, watch your back.

Admiral Cybyl

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