I never thought I'd be the one suggesting it, as I *love* banners, but I think the current allowed format is just too much. I think banners should be no higher than 200px (and preferably non-animated; but it's really the huge height that makes animated ones easily obnoxious).
Banners should be no higher than 200px? 63 votes
Banners shouldn't be higher than max 200px
Banner can stay 'as is', far as I'm concerned
Banners shouldn't be higher than max 200px AND be non-animated
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I'm not actually too fussed about the size
My thoughts exactly. I love a good banner, but all this animated stuff is just way too jittery (especially when they can span 1/3rd of you entire screen, vertically).
Support 90 degree arc limitation on BFaW! Save our ships from looking like flying disco balls of dumb!
But I generally *love* to see banners, just not that huge (without having to resort to some sort of thrd-party tool).
There are legit uses for GIFs, but for Pete's sake use a little common sense.
I do think there needs to be size restrictions. Support for animated gifs is a welcome addition and should remain.
Which is why I prefer the German term for it, which literally translate to "healthy human mind". It's easier to posit that most people aren't healthy than that most people aren't representing the common.
150 is more than enough.
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I do agree, though, that a size limitatios would make sense. Some are really huge and needed to be adblocked.
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Pretty much this. Banners are fine. If people have an issue with signatures there should be a little box near their post that lets you disable their signature (or any pictures) from your end.
The people complaining about the epileptic seizure signatures get what they want, and the people who love epileptic seizure signatures get what they want.
After they've had their seizure....just saying.
Nice, the whole who doesn't agree with me is a troll defense.
I am personally against making a universal banner size, but I can even understand the need for banner uniformity across the forums. Banner uniformity will achieve both the form of expression in the form of art from a poster, and provide a an affective solution to reduce load times on any thread.
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If they're that epileptic to the point a mere glance at an objectionable signature before clicking the box half a second later will induce a seizure, I'm pretty sure they aren't playing STO anyway.
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Good comment, I would like to add the following to help educate those who keep bringing up Epileptic issues:
3 percent of people with epilepsy, exposure to flashing lights at certain intensities or to certain visual patterns can trigger seizures.
65 million people worldwide currently live with epilepsy. Sooo, 1.95 million can have a seizure due to flashing lights. How many play STO, do we need a poll?
Examples of Triggers
Seizures in photosensitive people may be triggered by exposure to some of the following situations:
Television screens or computer monitors due to the flicker or rolling images.
Certain video games or TV broadcasts containing rapid flashes or alternating patterns of different colors.
Intense strobe lights like visual fire alarms.
Natural light, such as sunlight, especially when shimmering off water, flickering through trees or through the slats of Venetian blinds.
Certain visual patterns, especially stripes of contrasting colors.
Some people wonder whether flashing lights on the top of buses or emergency vehicles may trigger seizures in people with photosensitive epilepsy too.
Not all televisions, video games, computer monitors, and strobe lights trigger seizures, however. Even in predisposed individuals, many factors must combine to trigger the photosensitive reaction. Examples include:
Frequency of the flash (that is, how quickly the light is flashing)
Brightness
Contrast with background lighting
Distance between the viewer and the light source
Wavelength of the light
Whether a person’s eyes are open or closed
The frequency or speed of flashing light that is most likely to cause seizures varies from person to person. Generally, flashing lights most likely to trigger seizures are between the frequency of 5 to 30 flashes per second (Hertz).
The likelihood of such conditions combining to trigger a seizure is small.
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i was in a band with an epileptic guitarist.
we did our best to ensure strobe lights were never used, but there were a few times he had people thinking he was having a drug overdose on stage.
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But the example of a sig pic triggering an epileptic seizure at a brief glance is kind of a stretch.
But let's suppose it's true. If only one person who browses the STO forums has epilepsy that severe, then maybe they would be better off disabling all signatures in their preferences.
I'm in the mindset that just because someone doesn't like something, it shouldn't be prohibited. If there is reasonable suspicion that the Vanilla forums can be altered and adjusted on a per-user basis and how they choose to personally tailor how they view the STO forums -- I see absolutely no reason why this can't be solved through Checkboxes and the "Save Preferences" button.
And if a sig pic is objectionable enough by itself to cause a riot, nothing is stopping the forum mods from taking action on a case-by-case basis. They typically have good judgement.
Nothing but the same ol' - same ol' failure to act on such things in the past even without the animated gif garbage taking place.
This is the important part. I'm willing to give the new forums a fair shake before hanging an albatross around PWE's neck.
But I'd vote No to anything animated that takes up excess bandwidth, contains any rapid flashing or any flashing beyond very small regions, or any other motion effects that interferes and distracts one from reading the posts above and below it.
A criteria might be hard to establish, so I'd just suggest it be limited to small animations, while anything in excess of this be hidden under the Spoiler option.