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Fleet Armada System - Centralized Info - Going Live July 16th
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UPDATED NOTE FOR DOES THAT DON'T KNOW!!!
SEASION 10.5 Going Live JULY 16th, 2015.
I posted this on another thread but I feel like it would get buried down too fast and not be visible to others. So here is my quick notes on the Armada System after spending a couple minutes on it. This was tested with 5 fleets so far and shall be expanded upon more testing.
Delta Alliance X - Alpha Fleet
Borg -Tribble Alliance - Beta Fleet
Section 31 - Beta Fleet
SaW - Gamma Fleet
Starfleet M.A.C.O. - Gamma Fleet
TESTING
1. Yes, you can block Armada Invites like you would Fleet invites
2. Yes, Beta/Gamma fleets can donate to Alpha fleets
3. Yes, Alpha fleets can donate to Beta/Gamma Fleets
4. Yes, there are options to block single holdings or all holdings all together
5. Yes, there are options to block incoming/outgoing specific items donated i.e; Dilithium, DOffs, Commodities, Fleet Marks the whole shamango
6. When creating an Armada a new chat channel is auto created and available to all fleets in the Armada.
7. Yes, there is an options to "Kick" a fleet from the Armada. (although I'm not sure if its sub-fleets will go with it as-well as stated by the MMORPG.ORG article)
8. Yes, there is an option to "Leave" the Armada.
Channel (Armada)
2. It is auto created upon joining an Armada
3. (Not sure if it is removed when leaving an Armada) - More testing needed
4. It is like "Local - Fleet - Zone" channels not a Private channel
Bonuses
BONUSES HAVE NOT BEEN HOOKED UP TO THE SERVER YET!
As per the interview with "Al 'Captain Geko' Rivera" on Priority One: http://priorityonepodcast.com/po229/
Skill Point Bonuses (BOOST): will range from .05 to 2.5% (not official) for Leveling purposes, will be bigger for Alpha & Beta Fleets
Dilithium Bonuses (DISCOUNTS): will range from 0.5 to 2.5% (not official) for holding discounts purposes, will mostly affect Beta & Gamma Fleets
As per Broticus.
Bonuses unlocks at Armada level 50. Increases every 50 levels from there on.
COMMUNITY CONCERNS ADDRESSED
1. [Y] - Block Request/s to join an Armada
2. [Y] - Allow certain areas to be accessible/closed in each holding
3. [Y] - Block all contributions going in and out
4. [Y] - Leave Armadas Penalty free
PERSONAL CONCERNS
1. Holding UI when donating to another fleet via the Armada System is relevantly super compact/hard to navigate and confusing?!? Hope this get a face lift-up soon.
PERSONAL THOUGHTS/PREFERENCES
1. Out going invites to another fleet should be able to be cancelled by the fleet sending it (no option for that currently)
2. Request invites to already formed Armadas
3. Armada Uniforms (For RP communities)
4. Allow other ranks to accept/send Armada invites
5. Armada Bank - Mail System
POSSIBLE EXPANSIONS
By @szim - Joint PvE's/Missions
By @comrademoco - Armada Coalitions
These are some quick notes after testing the system. Keep in mind that it was the 1st version of the system I tested. So yes WIP... This is all I have so far, as I was not able to get more fleets into the quick Armada that I made... more fleets are needed for testing this at it's full potential.
I will also "try" to update this post once every new update to the system is done, until full release. If you would like to help me test this on Tribble send me message here or in game via @comrademoco.
Cheers and see you around Captains!
P.S. - Yes you can copy this and reproduce it else were for confirming or giving your fleets news/info/updates about the Armada System.[/color]
SEASION 10.5 Going Live JULY 16th, 2015.
I posted this on another thread but I feel like it would get buried down too fast and not be visible to others. So here is my quick notes on the Armada System after spending a couple minutes on it. This was tested with 5 fleets so far and shall be expanded upon more testing.
Delta Alliance X - Alpha Fleet
Borg -Tribble Alliance - Beta Fleet
Section 31 - Beta Fleet
SaW - Gamma Fleet
Starfleet M.A.C.O. - Gamma Fleet
Notes after messing around with the system
TESTING
1. Yes, you can block Armada Invites like you would Fleet invites
2. Yes, Beta/Gamma fleets can donate to Alpha fleets
3. Yes, Alpha fleets can donate to Beta/Gamma Fleets
4. Yes, there are options to block single holdings or all holdings all together
5. Yes, there are options to block incoming/outgoing specific items donated i.e; Dilithium, DOffs, Commodities, Fleet Marks the whole shamango
6. When creating an Armada a new chat channel is auto created and available to all fleets in the Armada.
7. Yes, there is an options to "Kick" a fleet from the Armada. (although I'm not sure if its sub-fleets will go with it as-well as stated by the MMORPG.ORG article)
8. Yes, there is an option to "Leave" the Armada.
Channel (Armada)
2. It is auto created upon joining an Armada
3. (Not sure if it is removed when leaving an Armada) - More testing needed
4. It is like "Local - Fleet - Zone" channels not a Private channel
Bonuses
BONUSES HAVE NOT BEEN HOOKED UP TO THE SERVER YET!
As per the interview with "Al 'Captain Geko' Rivera" on Priority One: http://priorityonepodcast.com/po229/
Skill Point Bonuses (BOOST): will range from .05 to 2.5% (not official) for Leveling purposes, will be bigger for Alpha & Beta Fleets
Dilithium Bonuses (DISCOUNTS): will range from 0.5 to 2.5% (not official) for holding discounts purposes, will mostly affect Beta & Gamma Fleets
As per Broticus.
Bonuses unlocks at Armada level 50. Increases every 50 levels from there on.
A few quick Q&A:
Q: How is Fleet Level / Armada Level determined?
A: Every Holding Tier your Fleet possesses should be worth one Fleet Level. This means getting a T4 Shipyard is 4 levels on its own.
Q: What is max Fleet Level / Armada Level?
A: Extrapolating from the previous answer, you should be seeing a total as follows:
* Starbase = 20 Levels
* Embassy = 9 Levels
* Dilithium Mine = 9 Levels
* Spire = 9 Levels
* Research Lab = 9 Levels
* TOTAL FLEET LEVELS = 56
Now, if you take that and multiply it by the max number of Fleets that can be in an Armada, you'll get (56 * 13) = 728 Armada Levels
*** NOTE: There is currently a series of known bugs with how Fleet Level and Armada Level are displaying on Tribble Builds, and we're working to correct them. The two above answers are how it should be working.
Q: What are the bonuses, when do they unlock, etc. etc.
A: Right now, Armada Bonus Tier 1 starts at Armada Level 50, and increases for every 50 Armada Levels past that.
Armada Bonuses are currently as follows:
Skill Point Bonus:
* Alpha Fleet = 1% + 1% per Tier above 1
* Beta Fleet = 0.5% + 0.5% per Tier above 1
* Gamma Fleet = 0.25% + 0.25% per Tier above 1
Dilithium Discounts:
* Alpha Fleet = 0.25% + 0.25% per Tier above 1
* Beta Fleet = 0.5% + 0.5% per Tier above 1
* Gamma Fleet = 1% + 1% per Tier above 1
All of this information is still subject to change.
Q: How is Fleet Level / Armada Level determined?
A: Every Holding Tier your Fleet possesses should be worth one Fleet Level. This means getting a T4 Shipyard is 4 levels on its own.
Q: What is max Fleet Level / Armada Level?
A: Extrapolating from the previous answer, you should be seeing a total as follows:
* Starbase = 20 Levels
* Embassy = 9 Levels
* Dilithium Mine = 9 Levels
* Spire = 9 Levels
* Research Lab = 9 Levels
* TOTAL FLEET LEVELS = 56
Now, if you take that and multiply it by the max number of Fleets that can be in an Armada, you'll get (56 * 13) = 728 Armada Levels
*** NOTE: There is currently a series of known bugs with how Fleet Level and Armada Level are displaying on Tribble Builds, and we're working to correct them. The two above answers are how it should be working.
Q: What are the bonuses, when do they unlock, etc. etc.
A: Right now, Armada Bonus Tier 1 starts at Armada Level 50, and increases for every 50 Armada Levels past that.
Armada Bonuses are currently as follows:
Skill Point Bonus:
* Alpha Fleet = 1% + 1% per Tier above 1
* Beta Fleet = 0.5% + 0.5% per Tier above 1
* Gamma Fleet = 0.25% + 0.25% per Tier above 1
Dilithium Discounts:
* Alpha Fleet = 0.25% + 0.25% per Tier above 1
* Beta Fleet = 0.5% + 0.5% per Tier above 1
* Gamma Fleet = 1% + 1% per Tier above 1
All of this information is still subject to change.
COMMUNITY CONCERNS ADDRESSED
1. [Y] - Block Request/s to join an Armada
2. [Y] - Allow certain areas to be accessible/closed in each holding
3. [Y] - Block all contributions going in and out
4. [Y] - Leave Armadas Penalty free
PERSONAL CONCERNS
1. Holding UI when donating to another fleet via the Armada System is relevantly super compact/hard to navigate and confusing?!? Hope this get a face lift-up soon.
PERSONAL THOUGHTS/PREFERENCES
1. Out going invites to another fleet should be able to be cancelled by the fleet sending it (no option for that currently)
2. Request invites to already formed Armadas
3. Armada Uniforms (For RP communities)
4. Allow other ranks to accept/send Armada invites
5. Armada Bank - Mail System
POSSIBLE EXPANSIONS
By @szim - Joint PvE's/Missions
So more options to contribute for large fleets and some small bonus on XP and dilithium costs. That's all? That's the whole functionality of the armada system? No actual gameplay like joint attacks or something like that? ...
By @comrademoco - Armada Coalitions
comrademoco wrote: »
So the idea was taking the same system and making Armada alliances that could be made maybe from 2 to 13 Armadas making vast alliances.
Think of the numbers of players that could ban together with that... I calculate around 84,000 players...
These are some quick notes after testing the system. Keep in mind that it was the 1st version of the system I tested. So yes WIP... This is all I have so far, as I was not able to get more fleets into the quick Armada that I made... more fleets are needed for testing this at it's full potential.
I will also "try" to update this post once every new update to the system is done, until full release. If you would like to help me test this on Tribble send me message here or in game via @comrademoco.
Cheers and see you around Captains!
P.S. - Yes you can copy this and reproduce it else were for confirming or giving your fleets news/info/updates about the Armada System.[/color]
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We really need a Dev Tracker again.
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It's on Tribble, and since many don't have access to those section of the forums, it is why I'm posting some here
Yes, you can turn off the channel altogether. Just go into your chat settings and you can mute it. As far as allowing certain fleet ranks to be be able to see it like fleet/officer channels, that has not been added yet. Remember early WIP.
Not all accts have access to the sections, and you must be logged in to view them. Another reason why my info is here rather than there.
thanks for the info
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Thank you very much for the information provided OP.
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Did you test donations from gamma to gamma, beta to beta, gamma to beta, and beta to gamma?
If this is a deliberate change in policy, then @pwlaughingtrendy or someone else from PWE should confirm it, because it wasn't this way in the old forums.
“Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn.” -- Benjamin Franklin
Cheers!
As per the blog: "All Fleets in an Armada share a new Armada chat channel, and can contribute resources to the Fleet Projects of any other Fleet in the Armada." This should be possible. I will test this today in order to confirm.
I'll tag @pwlaughingtrendy so she can confirm as well... cause as far as I know, you need to be logged on in order to see the test server sub-forums.
Oh, I do not own a fleet.
And I am really not good in "testing" environments....I start nit picking and get derailed on all the things that are wrong and "can't see the forest for the trees". I avoid going on Tribble most of the time.
I just have tons of questions on the Armada...and Cryptic is so slow in releasing detailed news.
“Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn.” -- Benjamin Franklin
http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/9436793
If I'm understanding this correctly, the probationary period and the waiting period are different. The probationary period begins when a fleet first joins the armada, and the waiting period begins if, at any time after the probationary period, a leader in the parent fleet decides to kick the child fleet or a leader in the child fleet decides to leave the armada.
My thoughts on this is that it will most likely be like the Fleet Leadership system in which a new Leader is provisionary for 14 days until he has full power over the fleet...
and the waiting period is when the fleet is being removed "leave"
so I guess its a 14 day period???
OK, I asked about this in the thread for the blog post; probably should have asked there in the first place.
http://perfectworld.vanillaforums.com/discussion/comment/12588118/#Comment_12588118
I am also going to have to re-listen to the whole interview so I can get more bits from the information. i.e leaving/kicking/logos/uniforms etc...
“Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn.” -- Benjamin Franklin
Tiz for the community.
I also updated the OP again under the SPOILER section to add official responces about the Armada Leveling and, everyone's favorite part of the new system, BONUSES... Since I know that was the mayor concern everyone had...
I also edited the Titled of the thread cause it has become more than quick notes and feedback it is now a "Centralized Information" thread...
P.S. there is more info to be taken out from le P1 interview so I'll do that laters.
I would say that the stats @borticuscryptic mentioned are more accurate since he is the one working directly with the system. The ones from the podcast were only a rough idea, believe Geko said they weren't final tho. So for now, the stats from bort are more accurate. Until full release.
Edit: I am going to try and understand the bonus a little more and post a reply here with what I do find...
* Alpha Fleet = 1% + 1% per Tier above 1
* Beta Fleet = 0.5% + 0.5% per Tier above 1
* Gamma Fleet = 0.25% + 0.25% per Tier above 1
Dilithium Discounts:
* Alpha Fleet = 0.25% + 0.25% per Tier above 1
* Beta Fleet = 0.5% + 0.5% per Tier above 1
* Gamma Fleet = 1% + 1% per Tier above 1
Ok so taking that info I will attempt to simplify this. To understand this you must understand that a fully maxed out fleet is level 56 as per current Tribble build and that the Armada system allows up to 13 fleets. So 53*13 = 728 levels. Each Armada tier is unlocked every 50 levels.
Armada levels consists of adding all the fleet levels up to a total of 728.
Armada Tier 1 - 50 - Base Discount
Armada Tier 2 - 100
Armada Tier 3 - 150
Armada Tier 4 - 200
Armada Tier 5 - 250
Armada Tier 6 - 300
Armada Tier 7 - 350
Armada Tier 8 - 400
Armada Tier 9 - 450
Armada Tier 10 - 500
Armada Tier 11 - 550
Armada Tier 12 - 600
Armada Tier 13 - 650
Armada Tier 14 - 700
Armada Tier 15 - 750???
That being said here is the results for the discounts/boosts with a level 728 Armada:
Skill points:
A - 1% base + (1*13) = 1 + 13 = 14% XP Boost
B - 0.5% base + (0.5*13) = 0.5 + 6.5 = 7% XP Boost
G - 0.25% base + (0.25*13) = 0.25 + 3.25 = 3.5% XP Boost
Dilithium Discounts
A - 0.25% base + (0.25*13) = 0.25 + 3.25 + 15%(dilithium mine discount) = 18.5% Discount
B - 0.5% base + (0.5*13) = 0.5 + 6.5 + 15%(dilithium mine discount) = 22% Discount
G - 1% base + (1*13) = 1 + 13 + 15%(dilithium mine discount) = 29% Discount
The skill boosts applies to leveling
The dilithium discount applies to holdings and it does stack with the mine discounts.
Hope this helps.
Let me know if you have questions so I can get more info
P.s. should I add this to the op?
Edit: I corrected my math errors
“Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn.” -- Benjamin Franklin
The way you have written this seems unnecessarily complicated. I would have written
Skill Point Bonus:
* Alpha Fleet: 1% per tier
* Beta Fleet: 0.5% per tier
* Gamma Fleet: 0.25% per tier
Dilithium Discounts:
* Alpha Fleet: 0.25% per tier
* Beta Fleet: 0.5% per tier
* Gamma Fleet: 1% per tier
I suppose it's fine to leave it as is for now, since Cryptic might change the constants later.
To be honest 14% is not much compared to 50% or 100% bonus Cryptic gives out on XP bonus events. How do they want to entice other fleets to do this? Would be great if they can increase the bonus to at least 2X the current amount. However, 14% still better than none
The bonuses were changed, so I'll be doing some math later on and posting the results with the new changes... but again, they are still WIP...
should be better results tho...
Skill points:
A -1*25 = 25% XP Boost
B - 0.5*25 = 12.5% XP Boost
G - 0.25*25 = 6.25% XP Boost
Dilithium Discounts
A - 0.25*25 = 6.25% Discount
B - 0.5*25 = 12.5% Discount
G - 1*25 = 25% Discount
Dilithium Discounts with T3 Mine
A - 6.25% + 15% = 21.25% Discount
B - 12.5% + 15% = 27.5% Discount
G - 25% + 15% = 40% Discount
The skill boosts applies to leveling and stack with the Z-Store Skill Point boosters.
The dilithium discount applies to holdings and stack with the mine discounts.
This Armada deal sounds like a win win for everyone!
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