Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
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I voted Dominion because I would like the idea of being able to play a Jem'Hadar toon but that is after my Romulan and Reman toons are allowed to be in a full faction of their own.
I wouldn't mind having a proper Hirogen toon as well, instead of the mashed together alien toon I have at the moment.
If there is a Borg Cooperative playable faction, LTS should be able to unlock a playable regular Human, Romulan, or Klingon who was never assimilated to begin with.
Hmm.... I just thought of something that might work. A Borg Cooperative faction could have the current traits that are limited to the playable Borg as an LTS only thing, kinda like the joined Trill vs regular Trill.
Other. I just want more options in the Alien Gen, even if it requires me paying an extra 100USD to get access to the stuff available in Foundry customization, as well as requiring some other unlocks, such as being a Lifer to unlock Borg option for Aliens and as cosmetic attire for all BOFFs (so that I can at least have my BOFFs superficially match my Lib Borg Admiral).
Borg Cooperative should never happen, steps on Lifer toes too much and there's not really a sensible way to work around it.
Suliban need to be rolled into the RR at some point. Not nearly enough material there to be a separate faction, even a fraction.
Not sure what to do with Xindi. Most sense is to roll them into the Federation but they work pretty well IMO as independent entities and lockbox fuel.
Dominion could work. I don't want to play it but there's plenty of room there for ships. Not sure how you'd handle playable races, since basically the only one that makes any sense is Jem'hadar, but I guess you could plot magic your way into justifying a Vorta in battle armor with a huge rifle on the frontlines fighting alongside his/her warriors. Couldn't be a Founder, though, unless that was a Lifer benefit or something - they're considered gods, there's very few of them, and it would just be stupid.
I answered Cardassian, as indicated by the forums in this post (which is kind of a neat feature but I miss having to guess who voted what based on responses, it was a fun game). They're in about the same position as the Dominion in terms of how much they have to work with, but it would require less plot screwyness to include them. Not sure what races besides Cardassian you could even have, though. I would play them before Dominion, certainly - I'm not opposed to a villain faction but I'm going to choose neutral or hero before bad guy any day of the week, and Cardies in STO's timeline are pretty soundly on that neutral line.
Dominion could work. I don't want to play it but there's plenty of room there for ships. Not sure how you'd handle playable races, since basically the only one that makes any sense is Jem'hadar, but I guess you could plot magic your way into justifying a Vorta in battle armor with a huge rifle on the frontlines fighting alongside his/her warriors. Couldn't be a Founder, though, unless that was a Lifer benefit or something - they're considered gods, there's very few of them, and it would just be stupid.
Jem'hadar, Vorta (no problem on the shipside, and as you indicate a ground presence could be justified, especially if the Vorta traits emphasize support)... perhaps the Hunters from Captive Pursuit, if Cryptic can go with 'not directly established on screen but stated as intended by people involved in the production'? Of course, an actual name for the race would have to be invented. Then again, Jem'hadar, Vorta, and something special for Lifers would be enough.
I really dont care what you do with your money, but then dont complain because this game keeps getting worst and bugs are not being fixed and so on. Hypocrisy is a dangerous thing. If someone thinks that is more important to have a liberated boff as a playable specie than fixing bugs and making the game better... well, i mean, im done arguing with people with your way of thinking.
That's your opinion that stuff is getting worse... and don't worry, I'm done explaining myself as well. Don't personally attack people and when they explain themselves and their reasoning you just run away. That's kinda... pathetic.
My opinion?? dude where did you go the past 4 years, specially this past one??? o.O i mean, after what you just said, im done here lol.
Oh good, I was starting to think you'd never get off your soap box....
Personally I think the game has improved greatly.
More content doesnt mean more quality. But whatever..
I really dont care what you do with your money, but then dont complain because this game keeps getting worst and bugs are not being fixed and so on. Hypocrisy is a dangerous thing. If someone thinks that is more important to have a liberated boff as a playable specie than fixing bugs and making the game better... well, i mean, im done arguing with people with your way of thinking.
That's your opinion that stuff is getting worse... and don't worry, I'm done explaining myself as well. Don't personally attack people and when they explain themselves and their reasoning you just run away. That's kinda... pathetic.
My opinion?? dude where did you go the past 4 years, specially this past one??? o.O i mean, after what you just said, im done here lol.
Oh good, I was starting to think you'd never get off your soap box....
Personally I think the game has improved greatly.
More content doesnt mean more quality. But whatever..
Except when it does. Play a mission from Delta Rising and then play a mission from the Cardassian struggle. Compare the Boff system we have now to the one we had before. Look at the new sector space compared to the old one separated by dozens of loading screens. I am saying the game doesn't have aspects that vastly need improving, but I am saying where the game is now is a vast improvement to were it was 2 years ago.
I don't think we need an additional fully-separate faction. In fact, I think it was a mistake to have a Fed vs KDF on release, especially seeing how KDF was underwhelming.
If we did have to have something, Dominion would be my choice.
Dominion could work. I don't want to play it but there's plenty of room there for ships. Not sure how you'd handle playable races, since basically the only one that makes any sense is Jem'hadar, but I guess you could plot magic your way into justifying a Vorta in battle armor with a huge rifle on the frontlines fighting alongside his/her warriors. Couldn't be a Founder, though, unless that was a Lifer benefit or something - they're considered gods, there's very few of them, and it would just be stupid.
Jem'hadar, Vorta (no problem on the shipside, and as you indicate a ground presence could be justified, especially if the Vorta traits emphasize support)... perhaps the Hunters from Captive Pursuit, if Cryptic can go with 'not directly established on screen but stated as intended by people involved in the production'? Of course, an actual name for the race would have to be invented. Then again, Jem'hadar, Vorta, and something special for Lifers would be enough.
Vorta are as physically capable as humans, it's simply a matter of whether they choose to fight on their own. I actually have a "Vorta" alien character.
Dosi are also allies of the Dominion. So are the Son'a from Insurrection, which opens up even more possibilities for ship options.
Yeah, any race that works for the Dominion is a possibility. These secondary races might not be numerous, but that's not the point. If they serve the Founders, they're eligible.
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If there was any new faction, it's clear where my pick would be; as I've always found the Borg Cooperative/Liberated Borg theme fascinating & appealing, from the character/story standpoint.
Still would preferably love to see current factions more polished, especially KDF needs all the love it can get, rather than any new faction, despite of my wish to, eventually, see the Cooperative playable.
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Borg Cooperative should never happen, steps on Lifer toes too much and there's not really a sensible way to work around it..
Totally disagree and for one very simple reason: what happened to Vega is never resolved. Make it the mini-faction hub and the borg invasion of defera a series of major story episodes (in addition to a zone revamp) and there you go. Its also never stated that the cooperative you work with in the Delta Quadrant are necessarily not part of the Alpha/Beta quadrant as well (Hue's group would also seem to provide a handy link with a simple text dialog change.)
The lifetime thing is also a moot point (see. the difference between FED-aligned playable klingons versus a KDF faction. What ships and locations you have access to matters, and people are certainly willing to pay for alternatives to the status quo.)
The dominion on the other hand cannot work in STO. I'll even go so far to say (assuming cryptic isn't insane) that it'll never happen.
Why?
1. Their iconic ships are all tied to major promotions. Consequently there's little financial incentive in making them generally available as they are. However it would be a fatal blow to the appeal of a dominion faction if that wasn't the case. Why the hell should the FED/KDF/RR get access to better ships than the Dominion itself has access to? And what the hell did those Alliance captains pay for if any given player can hit the C-store or, worse, just level up their Vorta. So damned either way, which isn't a problem with any other faction (even the Cardassians and Ferengi).
2. Ships aside, Dominion weapons, bridge officers, ground equipment, space equipment, duty officers, and costume options are currently available. Its easily possible for any given captain to now be able to out-dominion a dominion character, apart from the limitation to a relative handful of duty officers and one official Jem'hadar. And more generally, this brings up the point of just what it is we players would be getting out of a dominion faction (as it is, its a lot of recycled content.) Again, not a problem with anyone else (we don't for example have Cardassian ground weapons, boffs, or even uniforms.)
3. Their hub is in another part of the galaxy. The plot of the 2800 FE series and the Iconian reputation explicitly state their remote inaccessibility up to the current point in time. So, there's absolutely no way (without massive re-writes of even very recent content) to work Dominion players into existing content. They are not around. No quibbles, no lee-way. So no access to any of our PVE's (especially the recent ones which have a definite place in STO's plot arc), no access to the Delta Quadrant, no Dyson sphere, no Nimbus, and no existing story missions. Cryptic would have to make faction-exclusive alternatives to all existing contentfor there to be enough to support Dominion players. Again, no other choice (even Voth heretics) presents the same insurmountable problem (if 1 and 2 weren't bad enough to bar the idea).
4. Besides the technical difficulties, there's absolutely no appropriate narrative reason (at the moment) for the Dominion to have anything to do with the FED/KDF/RR even after S10 (or in other words STO) perhaps besides invading them again, which is a state of affairs perfectly in keeping with the Dominion. Why bastardize them just to have an official dominion faction? It'd be the Romulan Republic all over again, except without the distinctive rebranding, sensible plot arc, and direct involvement with the foundational events of the STO universe. All butchery, no narrative function or pay-off. The current situation is much more acceptable to dominion fans (however much it forces them to improvise). They get the iconography (the ships , gear, and officers) but without inevitably ruining what they what that all to reflect.
5. Neither the vorta, the Jem'hadar, or the Founders in their traditional humanoid shape exhibit significant biological diversity. Beyond the "PC" issues that represents, consider what STO would be without major player customization options (its probably the game's biggest selling point).
The dominion are hugely constrained in ALL areas of game development. An STO faction will never happen.
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Dosi are also allies of the Dominion. So are the Son'a from Insurrection, which opens up even more possibilities for ship options.
Son'a merely produced Ketracel White in large quantities for unspecified reasons (quite possibly having nothing to do with the Dominion, Riker referred to it simply as a "narcotic") and the Dosi at best Dominion trading partners.
Ditto for the Karemma. The dominion don't seem to form long-term alliances (those they made with AQ powers were largely out of necessity and its likely they would have eventually been made client species, which DON'T serve in the Dominion military [making a non-Vorta, non-Jem'Hadar dominion player captain very taboo for an authentic faction].)
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I would play as a cardassians if they are a separate faction and not like the Romulans really ticks me off they did what they did to the Romulans.
First, the Romulans need to be real Romulans, as an independent true free-standing faction, before considering any more 'factions' that will end up with a worse fate than trying to excuse this Republican nonsense. I mean, I'm only now learning more about their history, and already there's so many inconsistencies I'm losing hope that they've ever had the desire to re-create Star Trek, and instead sell items and starships by instead cater to the masses with friendly 'Romulans' to sell more ships and have more friends to play with.
After surviving an escape from the totalitarian regime of Vulcan that enslaves emotions for political control, finding Romulus and Remus, enduring internal wars, colonial wars, we're supposed to believe suddenly we want to reunite with Vulcans? Ask for help after surviving, enduring and striving all on one's own? Share technology with former enemies? Welcome everybody on this new homeworld for a culture that is xenophobic, secretive, and tied strongly to internal family clans? Split alliances between KDF & Feds, former enemies enduring a cease-fire/'friends, for now'?
Maybe I'm missing something, but from the outset, this whole scenario is more of an excuse not to create a real 3rd faction, while at the same time advertising 3 factions.
Now, people want more Cardassians, Borg, and Dominion factions. Sure, I'm all for everyone getting what they want. Just remember Romulans when those Cardassians end up as peace-loving submissive and gentle worshipers of the Prophets, Borg as free-thinkers who strive to be free from technology, and rebellious Dominion substance-dependent supersoldier Jem'Hadar who dominate Vorta for the purpose of keeping Founders oppressed in their secluded planet away from solids in exchange for ample stock of that ketracel so they can relax on Risa and lecture Klingons about honor.
The dominion on the other hand cannot work in STO. I'll even go so far to say (assuming cryptic isn't insane) that it'll never happen.
Why?
1. Their iconic ships are all tied to major promotions. Consequently there's little financial incentive in making them generally available as they are. However it would be a fatal blow to the appeal of a dominion faction if that wasn't the case. Why the hell should the FED/KDF/RR get access to better ships than the Dominion itself has access to? And what the hell did those Alliance captains pay for if any given player can hit the C-store or, worse, just level up their Vorta. So damned either way, which isn't a problem with any other faction (even the Cardassians and Ferengi).
2. Ships aside, Dominion weapons, bridge officers, ground equipment, space equipment, duty officers, and costume options are currently available. Its easily possible for any given captain to now be able to out-dominion a dominion character, apart from the limitation to a relative handful of duty officers and one official Jem'hadar. And more generally, this brings up the point of just what it is we players would be getting out of a dominion faction (as it is, its a lot of recycled content.) Again, not a problem with anyone else (we don't for example have Cardassian ground weapons, boffs, or even uniforms.)
3. Their hub is in another part of the galaxy. The plot of the 2800 FE series and the Iconian reputation explicitly state their remote inaccessibility up to the current point in time. So, there's absolutely no way (without massive re-writes of even very recent content) to work Dominion players into existing content. They are not around. No quibbles, no lee-way. So no access to any of our PVE's (especially the recent ones which have a definite place in STO's plot arc), no access to the Delta Quadrant, no Dyson sphere, no Nimbus, and no existing story missions. Cryptic would have to make faction-exclusive alternatives to all existing contentfor there to be enough to support Dominion players. Again, no other choice (even Voth heretics) presents the same insurmountable problem (if 1 and 2 weren't bad enough to bar the idea).
4. Besides the technical difficulties, there's absolutely no appropriate narrative reason (at the moment) for the Dominion to have anything to do with the FED/KDF/RR even after S10 (or in other words STO) perhaps besides invading them again, which is a state of affairs perfectly in keeping with the Dominion. Why bastardize them just to have an official dominion faction? It'd be the Romulan Republic all over again, except without the distinctive rebranding, sensible plot arc, and direct involvement with the foundational events of the STO universe. All butchery, no narrative function or pay-off. The current situation is much more acceptable to dominion fans (however much it forces them to improvise). They get the iconography (the ships , gear, and officers) but without inevitably ruining what they what that all to reflect.
5. Neither the vorta, the Jem'hadar, or the Founders in their traditional humanoid shape exhibit significant biological diversity. Beyond the "PC" issues that represents, consider what STO would be without major player customization options (its probably the game's biggest selling point).
The dominion are hugely constrained in ALL areas of game development. An STO faction will never happen.
You have good points and here is what I think. I just want STO to be a better game, nothing more. The responses are in the same order to your questions:
1. Cryptic can release a new set of Dominion ships (30 years is a long time in the story). The current Dominion ships can be explained as trophies from the Dominion War (like how we confiscated many Axis ships after WW2).
2. That's not too much of a problem, and I'm sure Cryptic can be creative to new gears.
3. How do you know they have no access to the Delta quadrant? Maybe they do!
4. The Dominion players can level up by running the existing episodes in the Dominion's holodecks (in addition to their unique campaign). This will recycle the current contents and allow new faction creation much easier to Cryptic.
5. Again, that's not too much of a problem. Romulans only have 3~4 playable races and yet people seem to enjoy it.
Definitely Dominion, curious about the possible storyline as a Vorta.
Also please no cardassians, no need to repeat the same story of crushed race like romulan half-faction.
I'm losing hope that they've ever had the desire to re-create Star Trek, and instead sell items and starships by instead cater to the masses with friendly 'Romulans' to sell more ships and have more friends to play with.
Maybe I'm missing something, but from the outset, this whole scenario is more of an excuse not to create a real 3rd faction, while at the same time advertising 3 factions.
the devs have flat out stated they made the RR to appeal to as many generic scifi fans as they could not Romulan fans... and iirc they also flat out admitted they ripped liberally from star war's and the Rebel Alliance of the Galactic Civil War era for their basic structure... it never was about Romulans or a Romulan faction, it was about cash cowing in a whole new way.
The saddest part is, even with all the TRIBBLE tied to it.... the Republic's plot is still the best in sto
Oh yeah, I forgot about the Breen. They would be an awesome species to play as too. I don't see it ever happening but it would be awesome.
I was thinking about this yesterday and one thing I think what they might do with the Borg Cooperative is go down the WoW Deathknight route. There would be some pre requisite to unlocking the faction (Maybe Borg or Delta rep) or they might put it behind a paywall (C-store or Lifetime Sub only,,). That faction would automatically start at level 50 and just have the Delta Rising missions on word to worry about. Knowing Cryptic it would make a lot of sense. All they would have to do story wise is modify some of the DR missions to make sense from the Cooperative's point of view. For the most part you don't encounter Borg ships until late 40s anyways. Now I would hate to see an entire faction behind a paywall, but yeah.. I can see this being a thing. It would make sense from a business standpoint. I am just speculating though.
As of now seems like Cardassians are ahead with close second between Borg/Dominion. I was hoping to test drive a Tact cube but I guess another version of a Galor wouldn't be bad either. Just hop it is full fledged faction and not a half as in the rommies.
I think I would prefer subfactions to full factions.
Like if we could pick a suballegiance like the Daystrom Institute or Photonic Rights or Cardassian Independence or Cardassian Integration and get missions tailored around that and more variety in optionals for existing missions.
I'm less keen on things that require rolling a new alt. I'd be more interested in having "causes", especially if it meant we could have players who share causes across faction... and players in the same faction who differ over certain causes, yielding different ships, different missions or mission optionals, different progression styles, maybe different resource pools (think Mana vs. Rage vs. Combo Points in fantasy MMOs), different subsystem power level advantages.
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Suliban need to be rolled into the RR at some point. Not nearly enough material there to be a separate faction, even a fraction.
Not sure what to do with Xindi. Most sense is to roll them into the Federation but they work pretty well IMO as independent entities and lockbox fuel.
Dominion could work. I don't want to play it but there's plenty of room there for ships. Not sure how you'd handle playable races, since basically the only one that makes any sense is Jem'hadar, but I guess you could plot magic your way into justifying a Vorta in battle armor with a huge rifle on the frontlines fighting alongside his/her warriors. Couldn't be a Founder, though, unless that was a Lifer benefit or something - they're considered gods, there's very few of them, and it would just be stupid.
I answered Cardassian, as indicated by the forums in this post (which is kind of a neat feature but I miss having to guess who voted what based on responses, it was a fun game). They're in about the same position as the Dominion in terms of how much they have to work with, but it would require less plot screwyness to include them. Not sure what races besides Cardassian you could even have, though. I would play them before Dominion, certainly - I'm not opposed to a villain faction but I'm going to choose neutral or hero before bad guy any day of the week, and Cardies in STO's timeline are pretty soundly on that neutral line.
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More content doesnt mean more quality. But whatever..
Except when it does. Play a mission from Delta Rising and then play a mission from the Cardassian struggle. Compare the Boff system we have now to the one we had before. Look at the new sector space compared to the old one separated by dozens of loading screens. I am saying the game doesn't have aspects that vastly need improving, but I am saying where the game is now is a vast improvement to were it was 2 years ago.
If we did have to have something, Dominion would be my choice.
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Totally disagree and for one very simple reason: what happened to Vega is never resolved. Make it the mini-faction hub and the borg invasion of defera a series of major story episodes (in addition to a zone revamp) and there you go. Its also never stated that the cooperative you work with in the Delta Quadrant are necessarily not part of the Alpha/Beta quadrant as well (Hue's group would also seem to provide a handy link with a simple text dialog change.)
The lifetime thing is also a moot point (see. the difference between FED-aligned playable klingons versus a KDF faction. What ships and locations you have access to matters, and people are certainly willing to pay for alternatives to the status quo.)
The dominion on the other hand cannot work in STO. I'll even go so far to say (assuming cryptic isn't insane) that it'll never happen.
Why?
1. Their iconic ships are all tied to major promotions. Consequently there's little financial incentive in making them generally available as they are. However it would be a fatal blow to the appeal of a dominion faction if that wasn't the case. Why the hell should the FED/KDF/RR get access to better ships than the Dominion itself has access to? And what the hell did those Alliance captains pay for if any given player can hit the C-store or, worse, just level up their Vorta. So damned either way, which isn't a problem with any other faction (even the Cardassians and Ferengi).
2. Ships aside, Dominion weapons, bridge officers, ground equipment, space equipment, duty officers, and costume options are currently available. Its easily possible for any given captain to now be able to out-dominion a dominion character, apart from the limitation to a relative handful of duty officers and one official Jem'hadar. And more generally, this brings up the point of just what it is we players would be getting out of a dominion faction (as it is, its a lot of recycled content.) Again, not a problem with anyone else (we don't for example have Cardassian ground weapons, boffs, or even uniforms.)
3. Their hub is in another part of the galaxy. The plot of the 2800 FE series and the Iconian reputation explicitly state their remote inaccessibility up to the current point in time. So, there's absolutely no way (without massive re-writes of even very recent content) to work Dominion players into existing content. They are not around. No quibbles, no lee-way. So no access to any of our PVE's (especially the recent ones which have a definite place in STO's plot arc), no access to the Delta Quadrant, no Dyson sphere, no Nimbus, and no existing story missions. Cryptic would have to make faction-exclusive alternatives to all existing contentfor there to be enough to support Dominion players. Again, no other choice (even Voth heretics) presents the same insurmountable problem (if 1 and 2 weren't bad enough to bar the idea).
4. Besides the technical difficulties, there's absolutely no appropriate narrative reason (at the moment) for the Dominion to have anything to do with the FED/KDF/RR even after S10 (or in other words STO) perhaps besides invading them again, which is a state of affairs perfectly in keeping with the Dominion. Why bastardize them just to have an official dominion faction? It'd be the Romulan Republic all over again, except without the distinctive rebranding, sensible plot arc, and direct involvement with the foundational events of the STO universe. All butchery, no narrative function or pay-off. The current situation is much more acceptable to dominion fans (however much it forces them to improvise). They get the iconography (the ships , gear, and officers) but without inevitably ruining what they what that all to reflect.
5. Neither the vorta, the Jem'hadar, or the Founders in their traditional humanoid shape exhibit significant biological diversity. Beyond the "PC" issues that represents, consider what STO would be without major player customization options (its probably the game's biggest selling point).
The dominion are hugely constrained in ALL areas of game development. An STO faction will never happen.
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Son'a merely produced Ketracel White in large quantities for unspecified reasons (quite possibly having nothing to do with the Dominion, Riker referred to it simply as a "narcotic") and the Dosi at best Dominion trading partners.
http://en.memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Dosi
Ditto for the Karemma. The dominion don't seem to form long-term alliances (those they made with AQ powers were largely out of necessity and its likely they would have eventually been made client species, which DON'T serve in the Dominion military [making a non-Vorta, non-Jem'Hadar dominion player captain very taboo for an authentic faction].)
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Sounds exciting...playing a crumbling empire with no leadership to speak of....just inches away from oblivion!
don't trust them... they use mirror uniforms... literally
First, the Romulans need to be real Romulans, as an independent true free-standing faction, before considering any more 'factions' that will end up with a worse fate than trying to excuse this Republican nonsense. I mean, I'm only now learning more about their history, and already there's so many inconsistencies I'm losing hope that they've ever had the desire to re-create Star Trek, and instead sell items and starships by instead cater to the masses with friendly 'Romulans' to sell more ships and have more friends to play with.
After surviving an escape from the totalitarian regime of Vulcan that enslaves emotions for political control, finding Romulus and Remus, enduring internal wars, colonial wars, we're supposed to believe suddenly we want to reunite with Vulcans? Ask for help after surviving, enduring and striving all on one's own? Share technology with former enemies? Welcome everybody on this new homeworld for a culture that is xenophobic, secretive, and tied strongly to internal family clans? Split alliances between KDF & Feds, former enemies enduring a cease-fire/'friends, for now'?
Maybe I'm missing something, but from the outset, this whole scenario is more of an excuse not to create a real 3rd faction, while at the same time advertising 3 factions.
Now, people want more Cardassians, Borg, and Dominion factions. Sure, I'm all for everyone getting what they want. Just remember Romulans when those Cardassians end up as peace-loving submissive and gentle worshipers of the Prophets, Borg as free-thinkers who strive to be free from technology, and rebellious Dominion substance-dependent supersoldier Jem'Hadar who dominate Vorta for the purpose of keeping Founders oppressed in their secluded planet away from solids in exchange for ample stock of that ketracel so they can relax on Risa and lecture Klingons about honor.
+1 from me, all hail to the Dominion!
I wonna play as a Cardassian or a Breen too!
Also please no cardassians, no need to repeat the same story of crushed race like romulan half-faction.
The saddest part is, even with all the TRIBBLE tied to it.... the Republic's plot is still the best in sto
Oh yeah, I forgot about the Breen. They would be an awesome species to play as too. I don't see it ever happening but it would be awesome.
I was thinking about this yesterday and one thing I think what they might do with the Borg Cooperative is go down the WoW Deathknight route. There would be some pre requisite to unlocking the faction (Maybe Borg or Delta rep) or they might put it behind a paywall (C-store or Lifetime Sub only,,). That faction would automatically start at level 50 and just have the Delta Rising missions on word to worry about. Knowing Cryptic it would make a lot of sense. All they would have to do story wise is modify some of the DR missions to make sense from the Cooperative's point of view. For the most part you don't encounter Borg ships until late 40s anyways. Now I would hate to see an entire faction behind a paywall, but yeah.. I can see this being a thing. It would make sense from a business standpoint. I am just speculating though.
Tactical Team sucked, once upon a time. I got it buffed. Don't think for a minute that Cryptic ignores forum feedback.
Like if we could pick a suballegiance like the Daystrom Institute or Photonic Rights or Cardassian Independence or Cardassian Integration and get missions tailored around that and more variety in optionals for existing missions.
I'm less keen on things that require rolling a new alt. I'd be more interested in having "causes", especially if it meant we could have players who share causes across faction... and players in the same faction who differ over certain causes, yielding different ships, different missions or mission optionals, different progression styles, maybe different resource pools (think Mana vs. Rage vs. Combo Points in fantasy MMOs), different subsystem power level advantages.