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spielman1spielman1 Member Posts: 1,338 Arc User
As I have read if I have read it correctly the Cardassians will be added at some point and time but there are a few things I would like to see. First they need to be a complete independent faction like the Romulans should have been from the start but wasn't, Cardassians need be independent from the start from KDF or the FEDs. Alsi o would love to see this list of ships in the game warning might be a space taker. So let me now what you think is it a good idea or just garbage more cannon ships than non cannon. If you want more images I can all of theme except for the Damar Class. Still looking for its images.

The Hideki Class ship ( Cannon) http://en.memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Hideki_class
The Damar Class ( Non-cannon) http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Damar_class ( Just a larger crew than 80 and about a quarter smaller than the Galor Class in size).
The Galor Class ( Cannon) http://en.memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Galor_class
The Keldon Class (Cannon) http://en.memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Keldon_class
The Janissary Class 9Non-Cannon) http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Janissary_class (instead of being a Assault Cruiser this would be the true cruiser for the Cardassians just bigger Keldon that looked like the picture with out the Keldon Class top part and a 1/4 bigger than the Galor).
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  • bloodyrizbloodyriz Member Posts: 1,756 Arc User
    I have yet to see anything saying the Cardassians will be added. Please post a link to your source.
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  • stofskstofsk Member Posts: 1,744 Arc User
    Uh the wiki isn't anyone's source other than the wiki's. Try again.
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  • stofskstofsk Member Posts: 1,744 Arc User
    It's not 'their' wiki, it's nobody's wiki other than those people who work on it. Who aren't cryptic.
  • bloodyrizbloodyriz Member Posts: 1,756 Arc User
    The wiki is NOT Cryptics, it is owned by Gamepedia and maintained by the players, not Cryptic. It is not a valid source for what Cryptic will do in the future, but it is a great resource for the state of the game currently.
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  • bloodyrizbloodyriz Member Posts: 1,756 Arc User
    OK, first off no one has blamed anyone for anything. Secondly I asked for your source and you gave one that is not actually a reliable source for upcoming stuff. Thirdly we are not off topic, we are still hoping that you do have an actual legitimate source. Cardassians should be added, and I would like to see it happen, but I also do not want to get other peoples hopes up with false claims.

    So, do you have an actual Cryptic based source for your claim? If so please share it so we can all be happy. If not, please let us know so we can make sure that we temper our hope with the facts.
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  • bloodyrizbloodyriz Member Posts: 1,756 Arc User
    OK, maybe I wasn't clear before, it is NOT Cyrptics wiki!
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  • timpantstimpants Member Posts: 34 Arc User
    There's no need to wait for a response from support. On the wiki's about page http://sto.gamepedia.com/STOWiki:About it says: "This wiki is part of Curse"
    Curse is a network of gaming sites, it's separate from Cryptic. (I think it started as a WOW site)
  • bloodyrizbloodyriz Member Posts: 1,756 Arc User
    It is not "backed" by them at all, it is simply a player maintained resource. Cyrptics support will not comment anything about it as it is not theirs. Even the footnote for the line you reference says it is not valid. You are barking up the wrong tree, and since you do not seem to be able to grasp this, I am done.
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  • daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    Nobody, and I mean absolutely NOBODY that actually works for Cryptic/PWI, has ever factually stated that the Cardassians will ever be a playable faction.

    What you've read is RUMOR and GUESSES on the part of folks with high hopes for it to happen and little else to go with.

    You can list any LINK you want here, but none of them will actually say what you want them to say as a fact.

    The best we've ever had from Cryptic about the matter, was way back when Dstahl was still in charge and he only said that it is something They have considered but have in no way begun any work on.
    (and that was way back in 2012, nothing else has been mentioned since)

    Sorry to burst your bubble, but nothing Official about it has actually come from a Cryptic Employee to confirm your belief up to this point.

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  • xenificationxenification Member Posts: 615 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    bloodyriz wrote: »
    I have yet to see anything saying the Cardassians will be added. Please post a link to your source.
    spielman1 wrote: »
    Straight from there own source of there own wiki look under the future content. http://sto.gamepedia.com/Upcoming_content


    While it is listed as "upcoming_content" based on whats been said by cryptic over a long period of time you (which players have noted down and added to the wiki, note: players, not devs) should be aware that, specifics like that are always subject to change and there is always a chance that is a majority of it is a load of TRIBBLE. Not to mention that a lot of it is quite old and quite a bit has been changed since those details were put down on the wiki.

    However I believe Geko said on priority live podcast said they are going to be revamping the cardassian arc in the near future so if this is infact the case then its possible even if its extremely remote its "possible" that you could see a playable cardassian character however if it is done, its likely not going to be on the scale of the Romulans.
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,689 Community Moderator
    At best we MAY see a playable species unlock. I doubt we are getting a Cardassian Faction in any capacity. They shot themselves in the foot by releasing the Galor as a lockbox ship. And before anyone pulls the "Just rename it" card... This is more complex than renaming a lockbox. There is lore behind the lockbox Galors. Renaming it also means altering the lore behind how we got a hold of them. They are NOT True Way Galors, they are Cardassian Union ships promised to the Federation and KDF by Damar.

    There is also the detail of Cryptic NOT releasing faction ships, which means there is no Cardassian faction due to the fact their most iconic ship comes in a Lockbox. The timeships don't count, as they are themeatic for the Temporal Lockbox. Any way you look at it, a Galor is a Galor, and there is a hole in Cryptic's foot.
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  • flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
    The STO Wiki, whilst revolving around STO, was created by, and is updated by players of the game. I could sign in there right now if I wanted and create a whole page dedicated to a playable Jedi Faction, but that doesn't mean it would be legitimate.

    You can't take anything you read on the STO Wiki as complete truth. Most (if not all) of the upcoming stuff is speculation or rumour. Cardassians have been speculation for some time now, though there hasn't been any official mention of them except for (maybe) reworking their episodes over the coming months.

    Sorry to burst your bubble, but we wont be getting playable Cardassians as quickly as you seem to think.
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  • flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
    spielman1 wrote: »
    Im not saying it will be fast I am just saying it could happen and that it was confirmed to be happening at some point possibly by the wiki post that is all everyone else from some of the posters got all worked up over it.
    If it was confirmed on the Wiki, then it isn't actually confirmed. :p

    Nothing is confirmed unless done so by a Dev, and even then, it's subject to change.

    Don't get me wrong, I think the inclusion of Cardassians would be great, but I also think the ship should have sailed long ago. From a storyline point of view, what logic is there in introducing a Cardassian faction after the Iconian have been defeated, and after we've visited and started exploring the Delta Quadrant?

    Cardassians should have been released long ago, if not as their own faction, then as playable species unlocks. Cryptic have, in my opinion, failed every Cardassian fan here.

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  • hyperionx09hyperionx09 Member Posts: 1,709 Arc User
    The only confirmation we ever had of Cardassians in recent months is Cryptic's plan to go back and redo them at some point after the Iconian war. They themselves mentioned that in one of the podcasts.

    The mention of a possible Cardassian race in that linked wiki dates back to a Dec 2012 post or podcast, though the link appears broken, and remains questionable. If someone can fix the link, we can settle this debate.

    As far as some new playable species/faction goes, they did recently mention (about a month ago in another podcast) that they would like to make a playable Liberated Borg/Borg Cooperative faction, but do not have any intention of doing it right away as they have other priorities before then.
  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,689 Community Moderator
    I think a species unlock is still possible. But a seperate faction? Nope. Don't see that happening.
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  • nyxadrillnyxadrill Member Posts: 1,242 Arc User
    How many more times do you need to be told that nothing is "confirmed" in the Wiki? The Wiki is a separate entity from Cryptic. ALL entries on the wiki are created/updated by PLAYERS not Cryptic staff.

    We need to see a specific post from Cryptic, most likely from Salamiinferno, confirming it before it has a chance of happening.

    And like all the others who have tried to tell you about the wiki, I'd love to see a Cardassian faction happen too.
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  • fraghul2000fraghul2000 Member Posts: 1,590 Arc User
    bloodyriz wrote: »
    I have yet to see anything saying the Cardassians will be added. Please post a link to your source.

    "We’ve been holding off on having playable Cardassians and Romulans for the time being as we envision having a complete faction devoted to these races. That is the only reason we haven’t added them as playable species in the game yet. They are reserved for future expansions."

    "These hairstyles and foreheads are specifically reserved for when we offer Romulans and Cardassians as playable species (which will happen) because they are defining characteristics of those species."

    Scource: Ask Cryptic 2013

    There was anonther one that mentioned a Cardassian faction in relation as to why there aren't any further playable Cardassian ships, but the accessibility of old posts and blog entries from the old site really sucks after the move to "Vanilla".
  • kittyflofykittyflofy Member Posts: 1,004 Arc User
    People keep pop ing up with Cardassian ideas lols, at least wait til cryptic says something about it.. sigh. They didnt even say a word about anything related to the cardassian and there we go again, people with all the time in the world to waste here writting non sense (because no ideas from players will be translated into the game, so..).
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