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  • deaftravis05deaftravis05 Member Posts: 4,885 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    lordinsane wrote: »
    Probably not, the report was made in a timeline that was almost certainly negated at some point before Voyager got temporal shielding (and if not then, then when the shields were lowered for the destruction of the Weapon Ship).

    I do find it interesting that Cryptic went from refugee populations to extinction from Delta Rising to a bit into Iconian War.

    no, that was the prime timeline, the report she made.
  • bernatkbernatk Member Posts: 1,089 Bug Hunter
    edited June 2015
    kayajay wrote: »
    It's got to be something that will turn the tables on the Iconians...so, a Temporal Core, Chroniton Flux Torpedo?

    Yep, it's Lt. Mary Sue's silver panties... rofl..
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  • majortiraomegamajortiraomega Member Posts: 2,214 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    rtk142 wrote: »
    Something that takes us back to Wisconsin in the 1970s!

    Is there something in Wisconsin during the 1970s that will help us in the war against the Iconians?
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  • cirran1cirran1 Member Posts: 230 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    Perhaps the item's value is not that as a weapon or piece of advanced technology. Perhaps it is a source of information that will lead us to what we need to come to "terms" with the Iconians. I.E. location of a super weapon, ship ect or maybe the location of a second preserver library or what the preserver was trying to give us when they were killed. Either way Ferenginar should be turned to a nice little ball of glass just because it would raise morale on all sides of the alliance.

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  • hyperionx09hyperionx09 Member Posts: 1,709 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    It will probably be a ground ability and/or a ground device, like the Imperial Romulan stuff, if not a unique shield that's part of a lockbox/lobi/rep set (like the Reman shield available from one of the missions, or the Solanae set).
  • lucho80lucho80 Member Posts: 6,600 Bug Hunter
    edited June 2015
    quintaris wrote: »
    I assume it'll be Annorax's foot in our TRIBBLE.

    Hell yeah!
  • ssbn655ssbn655 Member Posts: 1,894 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    I know! I know ! ... It's a baby dragon egg... And Winter is coming... Oh wait never mind....
  • jrq2jrq2 Member Posts: 263 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    no, that was the prime timeline, the report she made.

    I highly doubt that because Janway herd the name and instead of bells ringing in her head and wondering why that name sounded familiar she continued ahead clueless.
  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,963 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    A freighter load of brains we can give to the Klingons. If "House Pegh" is the best they can do, they need 'em.
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  • szimszim Member Posts: 2,503 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    I hear it's an Anorax action figure still in its original box. It's worth millions of bars of latinum.
  • kitsunesnoutkitsunesnout Member Posts: 1,210 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    szim wrote: »
    I hear it's an Anorax action figure still in its original box. It's worth millions of bars of latinum.

    It must be done Cryptic :P! Make it a summon like the Horga'hn statue pet!
  • shadowwraith77shadowwraith77 Member Posts: 6,395 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    tacofangs wrote: »
    Nope, just a McKrenim Happy Meal toy.

    Do they offer that, with a taco for the main dish?
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  • zellkarrathzellkarrath Member Posts: 182 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    Obviously its a Gundam :rolleyes:
  • kayajaykayajay Member Posts: 1,990 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    I always thought it wasn't that the Krenim could travel through time, just that they had developed "deadly weapons based on temporal science". We never got a chance to see if the race actually did travel through time, equivalent to the Iconians travelling through space in their gateways.

    Annorax was using his race's knowledge of temporal science to build the weapon ship, but maybe any member of the Imperium could have done that and it was just the natural progress, like an atomic bomb. I'm thinking the artefact will be weapons technology that the Iconians have no defence against.

    It could be that by manipulating the timeline, the Krenim always had the potential to become the most dominant race in the galaxy, because they could just eradicate their enemies and expand the Imperium across the entire Milky Way. Interesting to find out and I just hope Cryptic give it as much thought as we are speculation.
  • seriousdaveseriousdave Member Posts: 2,777 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    The Krenim have found the ultimate deus ex machina device and hid it: Dragonballs.:D
  • warpangelwarpangel Member Posts: 9,427 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    The next Lockbox.

    And here's we have the correct answer.

    We conveniently saw two Krenim ships in Voyager, plus it'll leave the temporal weapon ship available for an R&D/doff pack promotion later. Which will come with an "erase from history" console beam that's actually just your typical lance weapon combined with the omega torpedo's disintegration effect.

    And chroniton torpedoes/beam weapons with +damage against Iconians.

    And Krenim doffs that do...something. And traits...and kit modules...that do something.

    Then when we beat the Iconians, the Krenim come back and are mighty pissed off that we've taken all their stuff...instant plot just add water. :D
  • valenn1valenn1 Member Posts: 842 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    A bottle of Malkothian Wine? (Annorax had a second bottle!)
    Beta, LTA, CE, Multiple preorder Versions, all Addon Packs except AoY, nearly all KDF/Rom and ~50% of all Fedships, over 25 LockboxShips, Endurer of Atari's "Year of Hell", but...
    unfortunately:

    NOT LOYAL ENOUGH!!!
  • thay8472thay8472 Member Posts: 6,159 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    Krenim Lockbox?
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  • kayajaykayajay Member Posts: 1,990 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    Since the Benthan and Hazari consoles are interchangeable (despite being totally separate races) do you think that consoles from the Wells/Mobius and any from the Krenim ships will be too?
  • illcadiaillcadia Member Posts: 1,412 Bug Hunter
    edited June 2015
    psiameese wrote: »
    The only thing useful from a fallen Krenim Imperium, might be that P.A.D.D. of temporal incursion calculations. Which Annorax was working on at the conclusion of Year of Hell. The evidenced lack of emotional drive and ambition of Annorax wasn't intense enough to put the calculations into use this time around.

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    Remember the Krenim can use their temporal technology to store things outside of time- like the Weapon Ship for instance.

    I wouldn't be surprised if they pulled a Vaadwaur/Gallifrey and moved one of their worlds outside of time- and the artifact is the linker beacon to bring it back.
  • kayajaykayajay Member Posts: 1,990 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    Maybe it's a doomsday machine...the Krenim built a device that just in case their species was ever eradicated, could restore them to existence.

    A weapon ship bomb.
  • warpangelwarpangel Member Posts: 9,427 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    illcadia wrote: »
    Remember the Krenim can use their temporal technology to store things outside of time- like the Weapon Ship for instance.

    I wouldn't be surprised if they pulled a Vaadwaur/Gallifrey and moved one of their worlds outside of time- and the artifact is the linker beacon to bring it back.

    My thoughts exactly.

    Either way, the Krenim aren't really gone. Nothing that important ever happens completely off screen.
  • hipachilleshipachilles Member Posts: 195 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    I think the Krenim lockbox is the most likely result. As others have said, there were multiple ships seen to fit the lockbox grand prize and Lobi ship scheme. Chroniton weapons of some type are also highly likely.

    They have been hinting at this with the Delta Recruit rewards being temporal-based (temporal insight ship trait, paradox corrector ground device, and temporal negotiator ship device). Obviously, at some point, we figured out time manipulation was the path to victory.

    That being said, I really hope there is an FE around what happened to the Krenim in the current timeline. As far as we know, Annorax never built his temporal ship to win their war 200 years ago. But since they were still around and warned Voyager about "contested space" the war may never have ended. The Vaadwaur appear to have wiped them out, despite earlier mentions of refugees. My point is just that we don't really know what happened to their Imperium, to Annorax, or how advanced their technology became.

    In my opinion, the threat of the Krenim was always due to their master of the "time" part of the space-time continuum. The Iconians mastered the "space" part by using their portals to jump anywhere, but cannot pass through the 4th dimension. The Krenim, however, while never traveling through time on screen, can look into multiple timelines (by their calculations), exist outside them (through shielding), push objects outside time (the weapon ship), and use time-phasing in conventional weapons (chroniton torps). Their tech deals almost exclusively with phasing in and out of the "time" part of the space-time continuum. They don't just travel THROUGH time, they travel OUT of time.

    Where am I going with all this? I, like others, hope the artifact we find is the lock of hair that vanished. I hope it somehow got "pushed" into our timeline before the temporal ship was destroyed. From that, we discover how to duplicate some of their technology. No idea how this will end the war, but hopefully it is high on science fiction (like The Martian), and low on what was that supposed to accomplish (like House Pegh).
  • goodscotchgoodscotch Member Posts: 1,680 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    Solid latinum toaster.
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  • welcome2earfwelcome2earf Member Posts: 1,746 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    Ahhh yes... the "Temporal McGuffin".
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  • fiberteksyfirfiberteksyfir Member Posts: 1,207 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    Is there something in Wisconsin during the 1970s that will help us in the war against the Iconians?

    Yeah, fried cheese curds. Seriously, theyre delicious. Prolly the number one reason to go there.
  • bryanusbryanus Member Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    What we don't yet realize is the ancient ones created another race at good beings: the EMOTICONIANS! Just when all seems lost, they will arrive in their giant yellow happy face Dyson spheres to save the galaxy! :)
  • makocallowaymakocalloway Member Posts: 455 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    tacofangs wrote: »
    Nope, just a McKrenim Happy Meal toy.

    McKrenim chicken nugget? With temporal sauce?
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  • daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    McKrenim chicken nugget? With temporal sauce?

    Nahaaa...

    McKrenim Taco Nuggets.

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  • tancrediivtancrediiv Member Posts: 728 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    Now available in The McKrenim Happy Meal. The Chroniton Temporal Hamburgler Bomb. For a limited time only. With it you may feast upon lambs and sloths and carp and anchovies and orangutans and breakfast cereals, and fruit bats and Iconians.

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