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Iconian War Disappointing
andrew1707
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In the new Iconian War, they keep on killing off characters that I like. I hope that this is not a permanent trend, like in some old RPGs. I hope that it turns around before the end.
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they'd have to go to some 200k years ago, chroniton-infect the iconians that try to escape and make them lose all memories once on the other side of the gate.
they'd never even start breeding heralds or build fleets since their grudge and campaign would be forgotten.
this would allow cryptic to do as much mayhem and main cast butchering/location destroying as they wanted, since they'd just rewind it at the end anyway like voyager used to do.
you could even destroy earth or quonos at that point. it'd drive the point that iconians are an overwhelming, unbeatable enemy home if destruction of 1/4 of all of allied fleet in one shot wasn't enough.
We fight them too. Entire armies spilling out of Volkswagens.
We do our best to fight them off, but they keep sending them in.
At this point, I'm hoping that is the case with Romulus and Remus being saved. Honestly, I would have rather allied with Taris over Sela. While Taris is na
Oh I don't doubt it'll involve temporal shenanigans. why else point out in the plot so heavitly that Iconians can't utilize time travel due to their physiology?
It makes sense to kill off characters. It happens, it's war. I'd be very much unimpressed if Cryptic decided that all named NPCs had impenetrable plot armour.
Having some characters die in the course of battle or some other storyline event makes sense from time to time. Shouldn't be overused, that's for sure. But, it does need to happen to make the storyline deeper.
What interests me more is what will Cryptics devs come up with, after this war of boredom is finally over?
Mutant tribbles. They've already used the situation to further their nefarious ends and made inroads as far as First City on Qo'noS.
It stems basically into what has always happened in STO.
The game world is static. It's not dynamic. There was no difference in any of the conflicts once you were outside the tailored story missions or multiplayer queues. Once you were in ESD, First City, the Academies, Sector Space, etc, there was nothing signifying there was a conflict or a war going on.
Even when the Federation-Klingon War was going on, there was no gameplay impact for a KDF/Fed character flying into opposing faction space, or even approaching their borders.
It's always been like this.
Heck, Worf and Dax were married in the middle of the Dominion War and planned on going to Casperia Prime for their honeymoon - after Dax rejected Worf's ideas to go to Vulcan or Andoria. Just go and look at one of the Trek timelines and see how many people visited Risa during the Dominion War - let alone the Fed/KDF war that took place the year before the Dominion War.
Plus I do not remember you complaining about Risa last year during the Klingon War.
The problem is the same with all MMO's, you cannot do major game wide events without causing parts of your player base to flip out. Do you not understand how much grief Cryptic (and God knows they get enough grief already) would get if you had no choice but to fight the Iconian war...
Realistically all of our captains would be on the front line doing everything possible to hold back the Iconian tide. We would watch as friends died almost daily to an inexhaustable supply of Heralds in superior ships...you would see ships that were mothballed decades ago being Captained by fresh Academy graduates and you would watch them all die seconds after going into battle...
But to really get this into an actual gameplay impact is impossible...players would whine about being forced to do this...
you would have to do things like if your ship was destroyed, it was destroyed and you have to get a new one (and thats being nice and saying you got away in a lifepod)...the game would need a ship counting system where as ships were destroyed that ship type became less and less available, until your character couldnt have a ship of that class any longer as the Federation/Empire couldnt keep up with demand...
On ground maps your BoFF's would die permanently, and no brining them back...you would survive somehow(only because making a new character every 5 minutes is a little extreme)...but alot of that awesome equipment would be perma destroyed...
While this would make the War in your face and close to what theyre trying to portray, it would never happen...players would explode...
So we get what we have now...something that doesnt really please anyone...Im hoping something big happens...but Im not gonna hold my breath
I would say what makes this war different then others is the locations of the front lines are pretty clear. In this one the iconians could attack anywhere they chose and there wouldn't necessarily be ships in place to help defend whatever place they attack in time. That said the Risa stuff doesn't bother me because that is how it is in MMO's. It is more of a break from the story. That said I would love to see an episode where they take the event into consideration and the iconians decide to try to destroy Risa while so many high ranking officers are there relaxing. They try to catch them when their guard is down.
Klingons sing praise of me. Me! A starfleet officer! I have slaughtered so many... I have trophies of those who actually knocked me down... the trophies? Their heads! They adorn my mess hall and my office.
Drydocks tremble when they see my ship come in for repairs. There are usually bodies to clean up.
Disappointing? I entirely agree... they can still clean the blood up from my decks. Until it gets to the point where the blood cannot be washed away anymore, then I shall be satisfied!
tld:r; MORE!! MORE!!!!!
But this Iconian war is different. They are supposed to attack anywhere, no place is (supposed to be) secure, no front lines, they attack out of nowhere. We should be running from one inhabitant system to the next, defending all homeworlds and colonies. Do you remember the masses of ships we saw in "Uneasy Allies"?
They are supposed to invade Alpha and Beta Quadrant, but we go on vacation, let them wait :P. lol.
I wasn't so bored last year to reply to threats like this.
EDIT: That's true, it's a big letdown in STO that nothing changes at all.
Bwahaha! Right? What a friggin joke. If you don't care about the game anymore, just say so Devs! I mean, even the Witcher 3 gives you free DLC. When was the last time you guys gave us ANYTHING for free? Meaning you didn't have to work, run a daily, buy Zen, etc. for it?
STO has sadly turned into WoW. I'm certain the next season will have us fighting Alien Pandas in the mist.
Sh*t or get off the pot, cryptic. Are you guys really in it to win it anymore? I hope so......
I think the last free giveaway for C-Store items was leading up to the Anniversary Event? And then a few months before that they gave away free TNG-themed things.
They also just added the 'first-time buyers' system, where if you buy something through Arc, you can get a handful of freebies from the C-Store.
Oh, and the game - that's free too
Chip, you are absolutely right, I stand corrected! I forgot about that because I had already purchased most of those items before they were given away. None the less, they have given us a few freebies over the last 2 years. However the first-time buyers doesn't count, considering you have to purchase to get something. As is par for the course in STO, and that's fine.
Now, on to your most important point. Yes, the game is "free to play" but answer me this, have you ever bought Zen? Cryptic Points (I think that's what they were called WAY back when lol) or a lifetime sub? You probably have. FTP is a brilliant marketing strategy to get you to spend far more money on an MMO than you would a traditional game. Over the course of four years, I've probably spent $1-2k on STO. Most of my fleet has spent some serious cash on this. Heck, I've never actually met a player that hasn't... That's the main reason everyone is so upset, because you're vested. If you only spent $59.99 on STO 4 years ago, how pissed are you really going to be that it's taking a nose dive years later? You would probably just move on, and find a new game to occupy your time. But when you've invested years, friendships, countless hours playing, perfecting your build, collecting Doffs, Epic loot, buying ship slots, just to have the privilege of paying money via Zen to buy more ships (*Clears throat* really cryptic?) and some serious dough, you're livid that this is the BS that they're pulling.
Free to play, certainly doesn't always mean "free" at face value.
STO is a business, not just a game. So if you have a loyal player base that is apparently funding something for years, why not give them what they want? People have been griping about this kind of stuff for ages. Let's not even go into the lack of PvP content in this game... It doesn't seem to make much sense to alienate and anger people who constantly reinvest into your product, and help keep your company in the black. I mean, I was at ESD a couple of weeks ago and there were FOUR, yes FOUR of us at the ship selector. When have you ever seen that happen?! ESD is always overcrowded at any of the vendors... I hope Cryptic turns this around quick, or just shuts the game down and lets it go with grace. Something has to give here.
(P.S. I just want to make it clear, my tone certainly wasn't meant to come off as nasty towards you. I rant, and it's hard to tell over the interwebs :P )
This! What war are we speaking of besides a few drab missions?
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http://forum.arcgames.com/startrekonline/discussion/1145998/star-trek-battles-channel-got-canon/p1
Star Trek goes to war with the Big Bad, and what? Crickets. A planet is not destroyed, the Preservers, whom haven't done jack **** since we found them 3 years ago are killed off, one throw away NPC Maverick, and one Clone are killed in the story thus far.
I'm sorry, but The Old Republic has better story telling and presentation. I was really hyped for the Iconian War. I thought that suggestions made about hyping up the player base had been considered. I guess this is their version of it? I appreciate the effort, but it's falling flat.
To be fair, in in-game time we met the Preservers, maybe, 6 months ago, probably less.
And from a canon aspect, what exactly happen to those alien parasites taking over Starfleet in Conspiracy? Oh, yeah, TNG ignored them for 7 years.
Then come on over and play SWTOR. There is a reason why there is more then just one game to play in the world.
If they wanted to make this war seem more dangerous they really should have had a few more episodes where we can barely keep the tide of Heralds out. A mission or two were we have to evac planets, defend this position until the civilians get away. Make it seem desperate. Then something turns the tide and we are able to make moves like Delta flight and such. Its like basic screen writing here.
Make all deep space encounter Heralds and unavoidable again like they were when the game started. Replace fleet starbase defend missions with Heralds and we might feel like we were in a war.
Klingons sing praise of me. Me! A starfleet officer! I have slaughtered so many... I have trophies of those who actually knocked me down... the trophies? Their heads!
Drydocks tremble when they see my ship come in for repairs. There are usually bodies to clean up.
Disappointing? I entirely agree... they can still clean the blood up from my decks. Until it gets to the point where the blood cannot be washed away anymore, then I shall be satisfied!
U're paid per post of per day or for every contributor you try to discredit, I mean working for Cryptic must be very lucrative for you!
Nearly 100 000 players have left this game in past few months, and game only had 250 000 active players, like at most. WOW looses 3 million, with a base of 10-12 million isn't that bad, STO looses 100 000 players on base of 250 000 players, that's telling.
IF Star trek online is still around in 2017, and I strongly doubt it will be, it'll be solely due to the development team behind STO, not player base, players are ignored by development team, harassed and attacked by players such as you when they question STO Development team and the logic behind anything current development team is doing, don't forget very same development team manged to mess up another lucrative game they had way before Star Trek online.
U instead of offering a constructive dialogue attack anyone who has issue with the game, and I can tell you, a vast majority do and evidently reason why game is loosing so many players on a daily basis.
A BRILLIANT summary by an online blogger to describe what Cryptic is doing. Boldly Ripping You Off !!!
Another brilliant reply on steam chat boards,
And this is just few of many players that actually cared to post. So when you start to defend current game mechanics and playability, as well as shear greed of current developers, the blatant racism that is continuously going on in zone chat, one can only wonder how long this game can last. As I've said I give it 18-24 months max, and game will be no more, I just pity all who wasted hundreds or even thousands of dollars on this game, it ain't star trek, it has nothing to do with Star Trek, it'll never be a star trek game, for starters in star trek universe nobody rips you off blindly.
BTW as i type this, 50 players have left the game, this is how fast this game is loosing players.
Uhh...you can clearly see he doesn't work for Cryptic. You wasted quite a few words on just a fan who wants to support the game instead of the company, itself. But really, do YOU have any proof to what you claim? Like the one YOU attacked said, go play some Old Republic if you don't like it here.
As for what I think about the war, we just have to see what Cryptic has in store for the time being.:cool:
BTW, what the heck is it you're saying in that first line?
You have no idea how many players have left STO over the past few months. I can just as easily say 100,000 people have joined STO in the last few months and be just as wrong. You stating it does not make it fact. You have no insider knowledge. You are just a nobody with a keyboard.
I would also point out that WoW losing 3 million Subscribers means 3 million paying customers gone. STO losing your imaginary 100,000 means only 5,000 paying customers gone - because in FTP games only about 5% of the players financially support the game. So yeah, WoW lost $40 million per month while your STO imaginarily lost $50,000. It is a huge difference.
But you just keep on preaching your doom. It is so much easier to scream the sky is falling then to simply stop playing, yourself. If you stopped playing no one would care, but shouting doom gets you a little attention, right?
U call everyone that you disagree an idiot on open chat board ? Or is it just your teabagging ways of communicating with anyone that you disagree with ?
I know you are old, fat sad ugly git sitting in his room with no life, probably voting republicans and holding to his stockpile of assault rifles, however we live in a real world, reports on how well game performs are tracked by independent gaming journalist and websites. And since November last year game is doing dismally. I know in you thick headed brainless scull it is hard to comprehend this fact but it is something that is happening and players that have seen demise of other similar games can see it happening here as well.
Also since you're compering STO to WOW, two different games and different markets you ought to know WOW has many spin offs and updates and what not, anyhow here it is described why WOW lost nearly 3 million players and how they still got 7 million+ http://uk.businessinsider.com/world-of-********-still-has-over-7-million-players-2015-5
Not that it really matters why WOW lost players, we are talking STO, and why STO is loosing players big time. BTW your attitude is fine example why many players are leaving STO, you don't believe in star trek universe or what it represents, in fact you have no clue what star trek is about, if you did you'd question direction of this game.
Long standing STO players are laving many not returning cause of what is happening to the game, and disregard and utter contempt development team has for Star Trek fans and community,but what would you know, you're full of yourself, arrogant to the extreme.
Opinions are like buttholes. We all have them and they all stink.
You have nothing but your own disdain for the game; and like far too many people live under the belief that "what I do not like everyone must not like, and thus it is doomed to failure." Life is a little more complicated then that.
If you do not like STO, that is fine. I only consider it to be an average game, myself. But I do not delude myself into believing that everyone has to feel the same way about the game that I do. I am man enough to know that when I do not like something I simply stop doing it. I do not need to grandstand to make myself feel important. But I guess that is just the difference between an adult and a child mentality.