Happy to see this thread as I LOVE the Advanced Escort. Its the only ship I play since I started in 2012. Took it to fleet and nothing can pry me off it. I personally think its one the best designed ships in Trek and really captures that sleek but elegant flat design that Voyager started. The Prometheus took it to perfection and none of the new designs in STO pay tribute to it or can top it.
I think its about time Crpytic got to work on a classic Fed escort and made it T6. The Advanced Escort is about the only one I could think of worthy at this stage - its still a pretty popular ship, the Defiant has kind of already been serviced recently with the Pilot and Phantom class and there is a lot of potential with the MVA mode (if they want to carry that on).
Would love to see a 2410 skin as well and hey, they may then get off their TRIBBLE and fix that annoying nacelle glitch that has been around for nearly a year and refuse to sort. Not that I don't love a mini nacelle now popping out my saucer and snapping off during warp animations of course........
The Phantom and Pilot ships are NOT the Tier 6 Defiant refits, In case you haven't noticed all the Iconic ship reboots have the capability to equip the original ship costume and they are named after their original counterparts "Exploration Cruiser", "Long Range Science Vessel".
I hate the Defiant with a passion and even I can admit that the Defiant needs a Tier 6 version.
Hence why I said 'kind of'. Note the kind of. Remember the kind of.
The "Kind of" is still the problem, The Pilot and Intel Escorts are in to way, shape or form meant to be a Tier 6 Defiant, Not "kind of" not "In a way" not anything.
The "Kind of" is still the problem, The Pilot and Intel Escorts are in to way, shape or form meant to be a Tier 6 Defiant, Not "kind of" not "In a way" not anything.
'Kind of' being your problem isn't my problem.
Releasing another small Defiant looking like craft (this time the real Defiant) within the span of twelve months is frankly ludicrous. The Phantom alone could easily pass for a 2410 style Defiant skin even if it isn't an actual Defiant (which I know).
Lets get some variety and have an Escort put out there that isn't just another visual variation on a squat, flat little ship the size of a shoebox loaded with cannons. We can always have the proper, full on T6 Defiant later, which I support but there have been enough things put out there of late to tide fans of that ship and theme over for a while.
I have to admit, that would be pretty cool. However, how would the stations be handled in each mode, and especially while combined? You'd have to set the specialization abilities beforehand, and might get locked out of ability slots while using a particular mode's specialization.
It'd be really cool, but I worry about that.
How about if each section when separated instead of gaining specialization seating, gained the specialization mechanic.
Releasing another small Defiant looking like craft (this time the real Defiant) within the span of twelve months is frankly ludicrous. The Phantom alone could easily pass for a 2410 style Defiant skin even if it isn't an actual Defiant (which I know).
The only Defiant looking Ship released for Tier six is the Phantom the Pilot ships look nothing like the Defiant, I believe they were based on the Argo Shuttle from nemesis.
Lets get some variety and have an Escort put out there that isn't just another visual variation on a squat, flat little ship the size of a shoebox loaded with cannons. We can always have the proper, full on T6 Defiant later, which I support but there have been enough things put out there of late to tide fans of that ship and theme over for a while.
You're talking to the wrong person, I personally hate the Defiant, it's appeal is nothing more than "blow stuff up look cool" It's ugly and reflects nothing of normal Starship design, if it didn't have the massive cannons attached no one would give it a second look.
You will get your Tier 6 Prometheus, the Defiant fanboys will get their Defiant. Cryptic already said they will release Tier 6 versions of all Canon vessels, we just need to wait.
You will get your Tier 6 Prometheus, the Defiant fanboys will get their Defiant. Cryptic already said they will release Tier 6 versions of all Canon vessels, we just need to wait.
I hope you're right. I'm not about trying to deny a player anything but the Prometheus is such a great looking design (the perfect mix of classic Trek while capturing sleek, a rare sight in STO), it would be nice to see it get a bit of resurrection sooner rather than later.
You're talking to the wrong person, I personally hate the Defiant, it's appeal is nothing more than "blow stuff up look cool" It's ugly and reflects nothing of normal Starship design, if it didn't have the massive cannons attached no one would give it a second look.
It's ugly and doesn't reflect the traditional Starfleet design because it's a COMPLETE departure from the norms for Starfleet. It is pretty much stated that it was the first warship to be designed from outset for the Starfleet. So it looked the part.
One of the things I'm hoping for if this ever happens is they don't mess around with the bridge station layout. The Fleef Advanced Escort is just perfect imo. You can load up a decent amount of Cannon Scatter Volley/Tactical Teams, attack patterns and with that 3rd Science station, get Gravity Well in there.
They can change one of the stations to universal (and will, of course) but I really want to see the layout remain. It compliments the show really well and allows you to do just enough of the vital tactics for an escort.
What they really should do at this point is sell ship "stat frames" which can fit in to any skin they're classified for. So you could take a 4/4 weapon config and stick any cruiser skin on it you want.
What they really should do at this point is sell ship "stat frames" which can fit in to any skin they're classified for. So you could take a 4/4 weapon config and stick any cruiser skin on it you want.
I've heard a lot of people suggest this. It doesn't seem to be something Cryptic are interested in though.
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The Phantom and Pilot ships are NOT the Tier 6 Defiant refits, In case you haven't noticed all the Iconic ship reboots have the capability to equip the original ship costume and they are named after their original counterparts "Exploration Cruiser", "Long Range Science Vessel".
I hate the Defiant with a passion and even I can admit that the Defiant needs a Tier 6 version.
Hence why I said 'kind of'. Note the kind of. Remember the kind of.
The "Kind of" is still the problem, The Pilot and Intel Escorts are in to way, shape or form meant to be a Tier 6 Defiant, Not "kind of" not "In a way" not anything.
The Defiant isn't Tier 6 full stop.
'Kind of' being your problem isn't my problem.
Releasing another small Defiant looking like craft (this time the real Defiant) within the span of twelve months is frankly ludicrous. The Phantom alone could easily pass for a 2410 style Defiant skin even if it isn't an actual Defiant (which I know).
Lets get some variety and have an Escort put out there that isn't just another visual variation on a squat, flat little ship the size of a shoebox loaded with cannons. We can always have the proper, full on T6 Defiant later, which I support but there have been enough things put out there of late to tide fans of that ship and theme over for a while.
How about if each section when separated instead of gaining specialization seating, gained the specialization mechanic.
Alpha Command - Inspiration
Beta Command - Pilot Maneuvering
Delta Command - Gather Intelligence/Exploit
The only Defiant looking Ship released for Tier six is the Phantom the Pilot ships look nothing like the Defiant, I believe they were based on the Argo Shuttle from nemesis.
You're talking to the wrong person, I personally hate the Defiant, it's appeal is nothing more than "blow stuff up look cool" It's ugly and reflects nothing of normal Starship design, if it didn't have the massive cannons attached no one would give it a second look.
You will get your Tier 6 Prometheus, the Defiant fanboys will get their Defiant. Cryptic already said they will release Tier 6 versions of all Canon vessels, we just need to wait.
I hope you're right. I'm not about trying to deny a player anything but the Prometheus is such a great looking design (the perfect mix of classic Trek while capturing sleek, a rare sight in STO), it would be nice to see it get a bit of resurrection sooner rather than later.
They can change one of the stations to universal (and will, of course) but I really want to see the layout remain. It compliments the show really well and allows you to do just enough of the vital tactics for an escort.
I've heard a lot of people suggest this. It doesn't seem to be something Cryptic are interested in though.