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beameddownbeameddown Member Posts: 1,215 Arc User
edited May 2015 in PvP Gameplay
so,

long years, lotta stuff, some doom,

some gloom,

ALL of it, I could take on the chin, I have, we... those of us that fought through it all, PROVED we could take it

6 months, ionic...
6 months neruroitc..
part gens....

list goes on for years, fixs, slow in coming, BUT they did come... YEARS
immunity? there is no fix...

there is NO FIX, theres no way to dial back what was told would happen, told would be the ability,

placates? doable, said that before, said that a ton of times, sci team, high sensors... boom.. as soon as that silly intel auto clear spec came about, .. said over and over, "placates?... not a problem"

ESCAPE consoles... tons there of.. not a problem, can work around that, we all got them.. its a fact of life in sto pvp now.. no point fighting it.. IT ONLY drags out matches, it ONLY really gives that 10% chance that the guy can really get out of jail with it VS a directed team...

SO we all go into the match a bit longer because of the b.s. escapes consoles... so be it, they are in the game, they are not leaving, not getting nerfs, done deal, gotta just deal, cool with it, cool ..

with it...

immunities?

different animal, TOTALLY different animal,
there is no dealing with it.... only just acceptance that pvp in sto really has turned into rng for kills..

and cryptic has never been one to TOTALLY remove a ability before because of a couple complaints... so my hopes for seeing the end of "immunities" is done and done

a nerf ? ya, totally, ANYONE that fired off a ionic KNEW, and I mean KNEW that thing was going to get a nerf some day, fact--- reality...

but the immunity stuff we got.. NO CHANCE, they are not going to nerf it, THATS the answer I guess from cryptic to give players a chance in their EPIC hard PVE content .. cause that stuff is off the hook in difficulty and chall......

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

sorry, I cant go on!! its to STUPID to even joke around with it, tears in my eyes laughing so hard LOL!!!

P V E IS a JOKE. fact

and because pve is so much a joke in game, and they want to rob the players of ANY chance, and I do mean ANY CHANCE of even remotely dying... we get stuck in pvp with these b.s. rng procs that make pvp totally unplayable

sorry, done for now, going to wait the 6 months (well past summer) for cryptic to either A: find a workable solution to immunity, ... OR B: done with pvp

its cool, had my premades, had my epic matchs, had my pugs, had my fun, if this is the end? its cool


at this point, I have frozen/stopped work on all pvp builds/money, DONE - finished, not flying,:) lags to bad, meta is horrible for an honest match...

I now am going 99% (1% to just keep dil running on my pvp klink) PVE BABY!! ALWAYS wanted to fly the nova, got a wells/vestas... SO paying for the nova was a joke... but I always LOVED that ship, looks great, I look at it and say "that's star trek" .. SO im a nova tac fed build from here on out for pve cause honestly... I don't see how we can get past the immunity b.s.

everything else before, AND I DO MEAN EVERTHING, lol could be seen as getting a nerf at least some day,, part gens, torps, traits, etc ALL of it, ANY of it, but the immunity direction they are going now???

ya, there is no nerf to that, there is NO LEVEL that it can go down to that doesn't connect the dots for heals at this point, its either its GONE or its HERE for good..

I think its here for good, SO pve here I come baby:) god speed to the rest of you and enjoy your rng wins and deaths:)
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    virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Competitive PvE!

    I'm not joking. Well, maybe a little - but not a lot. :P

    Team A vs. Team B doing PvE X...proving that their team is better than the other team. It's competitive...shows who is better, yeah?

    What about some other elements one might find in PvP? Trash talk? Heh, PvE is full of it...folks mocking the performance of others, folks saying people are cheating...it's a trip...PvE's like Ker'rat chat.

    To do the high end DPS, folks need teamwork - they need comms.

    Don't think about the mediocre stuff...folks doing 15-20k..30k...not even 50k.

    High end competitive PvE...folks doing 75-120k+ DPS. Very few are.

    An opportunity to show some domination...to have some form of competition left in the game (cause PvP...er...every 3 months or so it's going to keep on getting worse as it has been).

    Taking the knowledge, skills, and the ability to adapt over the years...and...going high end competitive PvE.

    Just a thought...heh.
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    spaceeagle20spaceeagle20 Member Posts: 971 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    You know what's funny ? So far , AFAIK , only one pug pilot ship has been detected in an arena … probably because escorts lag a lot and cannons do not fire almost at all , while other ships seem to do fine or almost fine.
    Virusdancer, some space PvE is very laggy now and that lag is frustrating, which is why I am not bothering with it .
    Ironically, PvP maps are far less laggy ( except for Solar Wind, which is still gold in comparison with ISA ) … that and the ground maps .
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    virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    You know what's funny ? So far , AFAIK , only one pug pilot ship has been detected in an arena … probably because escorts lag a lot and cannons do not fire almost at all , while other ships seem to do fine or almost fine.
    Virusdancer, some space PvE is very laggy now and that lag is frustrating, which is why I am not bothering with it .
    Ironically, PvP maps are far less laggy ( except for Solar Wind, which is still gold in comparison with ISA ) … that and the ground maps .

    Heh, that's a bit of an understatement.

    It's..."I will not punch the wall again. The girlfriend will call the men in white coats to take me away to the loony bin if I punch the wall again. Deep breath. It's all good. It's just a game. I'm going to smoke."

    :D

    But hey, it works out for PvP too...where "lag" has often been given as an excuse for performance, yeah? ;)
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    mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Maybe one reason that everyone ignores PvPers is because according to them, PvP has been "finally killed" about a hundred times already.

    Remember all the stuff that was added over the last 4 years in PvP? That's what hyperbole brought us.
    Yup, that's exactly nothing.

    Someone once said that doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results every time is a sign of insanity.

    Let go of it. One day someone at Cryptic has to wake up and realize that no PvP game happened over the last week. At that point, they either get rid of it and updating it to exploration cluster status, or see an impact on their sales and do something about it. But the usual forum hyperbole... it has no impact.
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    heckgoblinheckgoblin Member Posts: 685
    edited May 2015
    ... or see an impact on their sales and do something about it...

    What impact? PVPers are like, 0.1% of this game's population.
    I AM WAR.
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    virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    heckgoblin wrote: »
    What impact? PVPers are like, 0.1% of this game's population.

    Is that including the Forum PvPers, Exchange PvPers, Competitive PvE PvPers, the RP Costume PvPers, the dance PvP on Nimbus and Risa, etc, etc, etc? Cause even then...the number seems a bit high. ;)
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    nandospcnandospc Member Posts: 1,260 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    heckgoblin wrote: »
    What impact? PVPers are like, 0.1% of this game's population.
    Let's quantify the real number of pvpers out there :D. So, starting with pvp fleets and their current pvp players, i can count at least 8 from CSI, 8 from ka-tet, 5 nova core, 4/5 sad pandas, 1 inner circle (tlilu), 1 angry clown (baal), 2/3 starfleet germany, some disorderly conducts, 2/3 ad infinitum, 1/2 lafamilia, 1 32nd viper (finn), 1/2 tsi, 1 lag ind (ric), 2/3 sporadic hobos still remained on sto and i dont remember the other "tags" atm, sorry guys. Pugs? I can count about the same 10/15 recurrent guys over and over again...
    So, we have almost 60 established players still pvping. Let's extrapolate a maximum of 100/150 players to cover all the time zones and the days with more matches on than usual. That's all guys :P
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    sharxtremesharxtreme Member Posts: 850 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    nandospc wrote: »
    Let's quantify the real number of pvpers out there :D. So, starting with pvp fleets and their current pvp players, i can count at least 8 from CSI, 8 from ka-tet, 5 nova core, 4/5 sad pandas, 1 inner circle (tlilu), 1 angry clown (baal), 2/3 starfleet germany, some disorderly conducts, 2/3 ad infinitum, 1/2 lafamilia, 1 32nd viper (finn), 1/2 tsi, 1 lag ind (ric), 2/3 sporadic hobos still remained on sto and i dont remember the other "tags" atm, sorry guys. Pugs? I can count about the same 10/15 recurrent guys over and over again...
    So, we have almost 60 established players still pvping. Let's extrapolate a maximum of 100/150 players to cover all the time zones and the days with more matches on than usual. That's all guys :P

    in s9 in matches I played in one night I could count more then 200 when making vids.
    Soon after DR started I could count over 50 in one of my compilation when I organized 10v10s on OPvP.

    I can imagine now it's like 8-10 guys playing over and over. fkn sad.
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    nandospcnandospc Member Posts: 1,260 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    sharxtreme wrote: »
    it's like 8-10 guys playing over and over. fkn sad.
    ^^ not so far from the truth :P
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    praxi5praxi5 Member Posts: 1,562 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    nandospc wrote: »
    Let's quantify the real number of pvpers out there :D. So, starting with pvp fleets and their current pvp players, i can count at least 8 from CSI, 8 from ka-tet, 5 nova core, 4/5 sad pandas, 1 inner circle (tlilu), 1 angry clown (baal), 2/3 starfleet germany, some disorderly conducts, 2/3 ad infinitum, 1/2 lafamilia, 1 32nd viper (finn), 1/2 tsi, 1 lag ind (ric), 2/3 sporadic hobos still remained on sto and i dont remember the other "tags" atm, sorry guys. Pugs? I can count about the same 10/15 recurrent guys over and over again...
    So, we have almost 60 established players still pvping. Let's extrapolate a maximum of 100/150 players to cover all the time zones and the days with more matches on than usual. That's all guys :P

    We had over 10 Pandas on at one time yesterday :eek:
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    sharxtremesharxtreme Member Posts: 850 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    praxi5 wrote: »
    We had over 10 Pandas on at one time yesterday :eek:

    10 Really Sad Pandas?
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    darkknightucfdarkknightucf Member Posts: 1,546 Media Corps
    edited May 2015
    nandospc wrote: »
    ^^ not so far from the truth :P

    PvP was the one redeeming thing in this game, even through DR's mega-changes. We adapted. Server/Instance performance is hindering that. The chain immunities has me reduced to dil farming.... and if I wanted to farm anything, I might as well play farmville, because that doesn't lag....
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    nandospcnandospc Member Posts: 1,260 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    praxi5 wrote: »
    We had over 10 Pandas on at one time yesterday :eek:
    It was a temporal anomaly, move on :P
    edit: also, just did 1k post on this forum :eek: sorry for off topic
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    bwemobwemo Member Posts: 257 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    praxi5 wrote: »
    We had over 10 Pandas on at one time yesterday :eek:

    Bieber on a everyone quit recruiting spree again? Time to go throw some no votes around so I don't have to explain to more pandas exploiting bhf set isn't panda like.
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    heckgoblinheckgoblin Member Posts: 685
    edited May 2015
    Is that including the Forum PvPers, Exchange PvPers, Competitive PvE PvPers, the RP Costume PvPers, the dance PvP on Nimbus and Risa, etc, etc, etc? Cause even then...the number seems a bit high. ;)

    I meant the ones whose spaceships shoot other players' spaceships. That other stuff... eh, maybe the people doing it pretend they're PVPers, but let's face it, they're not.
    I AM WAR.
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    virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Pandas?

    I heard a bunch of folks lost bets. I asked if they didn't have the option to be punched in the face repeatedly instead...since it would be less painful than coming back to PvP in this game.
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    bwemobwemo Member Posts: 257 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Pandas?

    I heard a bunch of folks lost bets. I asked if they didn't have the option to be punched in the face repeatedly instead...since it would be less painful than coming back to PvP in this game.

    Nah the bet isn't expiring till the 12th. If MT hasn't come to his senses by then I'll reinstall. Frankly, I'm getting nervous.....
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    blessedladyboyblessedladyboy Member Posts: 349 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Pilot ship PvP was the most fun I've had for a long while last night...quit whining and queue.
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    laferrari1laferrari1 Member Posts: 434 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Pilot ship PvP was the most fun I've had for a long while last night...quit whining and queue.

    going to bite it... to fight against who? :P
    I need to get to him. I can't just leave him out there alone. - Sometimes you've got to makes sacrifices, Lara. You can't save everyone. - I know about sacrifices. - No, you know about loss. Sacrifice is a choice you make. Loss is a choice made for you. - I can't choose to let him die, Roth.
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    rezkingrezking Member Posts: 1,109 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    beameddown wrote: »
    sorry, done for now, going to wait the 6 months (well past summer) for cryptic to either A: find a workable solution to immunity, ... OR B: done with pvp

    PvP was defeated, exiled and left for dead years ago.
    Accept it.
    Cry, if you must...but it's over and there's nothing you can do about it.

    Except quit.
    But, there's some fun to be had still...in PvE.
    Not alot.
    But it's there.
    NO to ARC
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    rezkingrezking Member Posts: 1,109 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    "Balance"...I guess that depends on your perspective, doesn't it?
    With this "balance" PvP should be thriving, right?
    But it's not.
    Of course by their attempt at "balance", they pretty much eviscerated any distinction between Red vs Blue.
    That's what my sig refers to and the "facelift" doesn't change it.

    But did I pout, stomp my feet and threaten to run away from home?
    No.
    Well, I did pout a little...kinda butt-hurt.
    There's more to STO than PvP...not much more but it's still fun even though it's being nerfed every week it seems.

    If you do decide to run away for good...can I has your stuffs?
    I need stuffs.
    My new Deltas need shoes and Pulsewaves :(
    NO to ARC
    RIP KDF and PvP 2014-07-17 Season 9.5 - Death by Dev
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    vonednavonedna Member Posts: 61 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    praxi5 wrote: »
    We had over 10 Pandas on at one time yesterday :eek:


    those are the depressed ones ,the sad pandas are probably happy now since they got rid of this lol game.
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    spaceeagle20spaceeagle20 Member Posts: 971 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    vonedna wrote: »
    those are the depressed ones ,the sad pandas are probably happy now since they got rid of this lol game.

    I am not pvping a lot right now since I am in farming mode however , a few days ago my friend 37JKSLDC literally begged me to qeue up my healer to start the arena match and, on the other side, there was a full pre-made team of Sad Pandas, a " depressed " :P pre-made team of sci on temporal science vessels with epic gear and an established combat plan, from what I could gather :rolleyes:
    It was a tough, challenging and fun match.
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    laferrari1laferrari1 Member Posts: 434 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    deokkent wrote: »
    I have adapted one of my science toons to fly the nova class exclusively. It's a very appealing, its capabilities have definitely grown on me. The Rhode Island is also too beautiful to pass up. It now rocks t5u status, fleet version, awesome consoles and partigen, and with the right team does an incredible amount of damage. Its speed pleasantly surprised me when I tried it out the first time, it won't compete with the temporal science vessel of course but wow it's fast.

    Replace "Nova" with "Intrepid" and your post would work for me as well lol.
    I need to get to him. I can't just leave him out there alone. - Sometimes you've got to makes sacrifices, Lara. You can't save everyone. - I know about sacrifices. - No, you know about loss. Sacrifice is a choice you make. Loss is a choice made for you. - I can't choose to let him die, Roth.
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