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Seriously Sir Taco, INCREASE ambient light from sector space stars

doubleohninedoubleohnine Member Posts: 818 Arc User
edited May 2015 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
Im fine with darkness is the new black, and Ive read your responses in similar threads, but you're still wrong bro. I just stuck the nose of my starship within 1 LY of a big white star, and spinning the camera around to look back at my ship, it still looks like Im in darkness. A fair compromise for what you intended and what we the players want, me anyways, Id like to see TNG level ship lighting on my ship when Im within 4 LY of a star system in sector space. That way its still mostly dark out there, but we REALLY get our ships lit up when we are passing by them relatively close. Can you at least do that for us? Is that an easy to tweak request?
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  • doubleohninedoubleohnine Member Posts: 818 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    I know INSIDE a star system the lighting is good. I just think the light is too stingy in sector space. Unless your auto path practically flys THROUGH a star, the ENTIRE trip is darkly lit ships. You know in tv shows when they do nighttime car scenes and other cars pass them by and you see the headlights light up the insides of the car, we dont even have that. Part of the fun of traveling so far to reach your next location in this new sector space is to get your ship really lit up here and there along the way. That isnt happening at all anymore.
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  • isthisscienceisthisscience Member Posts: 863 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Please don't taco. It's great. Sometimes the loudest or most insistent group isn't the majority.
  • szimszim Member Posts: 2,503 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    I like the current settings. A darker sector space is much closer to reality. In my opinion they shouldn't change a thing.
  • saurializardsaurializard Member Posts: 4,406 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    And it is this thread again.

    Taco already said he increased the lightning a bit internally for a next patch.

    But still, this is for sector space only, most of your time you'll see your ship because you'll be shooting baddies in a system.
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  • aelfwin1aelfwin1 Member Posts: 2,896 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    szim wrote: »
    I like the current settings. A darker sector space is much closer to reality..


    Well then they better remove 95% of the game 'cuz dat s#it ain't real . :eek:

    Taco's current version is much closer to 1/6 of what it took to create the actual FX shots on the show .
    (hint : what the FX guy refer to as "Beauty Pass" is totally missing)


    But you're welcome to come up with a few shots from the shows that look like what we have today .
    In the mean time , I'll keep a lookout for Taco's lighting upgrade (whenever that'll make it into the game) .




    ... make it like it was on the show ...
  • e30erneste30ernest Member Posts: 1,794 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    I agree the ships need to be more visible. This is a Star Trek game and in my opinion, the ships at warp should look like the ships at warp at the show. I appreciate the effort for realism and to recreate the darkness of space, but the game isn't meant to reflect reality. It is meant to recreate something from a well established show/IP so there are certain things it has to adhere to. The way ships look in space/sector space IMO is one of those things.

    If only to make everyone happy, why not make it an in-game setting that users can tweak?

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  • bobbydazlersbobbydazlers Member Posts: 4,534 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    doubleohnine wrote: »
    Im fine with darkness is the new black, and Ive read your responses in similar threads, but you're still wrong bro. I just stuck the nose of my starship within 1 LY of a big white star, and spinning the camera around to look back at my ship, it still looks like Im in darkness. A fair compromise for what you intended and what we the players want, me anyways, Id like to see TNG level ship lighting on my ship when Im within 4 LY of a star system in sector space. That way its still mostly dark out there, but we REALLY get our ships lit up when we are passing by them relatively close. Can you at least do that for us? Is that an easy to tweak request?

    the thing is when you are in sector space you are outside of the solar system try sitting on say Neptune inside our solar system and see how only about one thousandth of the sunlight received by our planet reaches there and is only is about 0.0005 of a light year from the sun.
    given this how much light from a sun do you think you would see at even only 1 light year regardless of its size.

    When I think about everything we've been through together,

    maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,

     and if that journey takes a little longer,

    so we can do something we all believe in,

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  • kaomondkaomond Member Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Regardless of realism some people want to actually marvel at the beauty of our ships, some of the art work on the ships is amazing but it's wasted if you can't actually see it, as it is we might as well be flying 8bit blocks because the way it is we wouldn't see the difference.
  • captainrevo1captainrevo1 Member Posts: 3,948 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    I'm not saying this will work for everyone as Im sure people have different prefrences but I just increased my brightness in the options and I found it was good enough and even helped on the ground. I think the default is set a little too low.
  • voivodjevoivodje Member Posts: 436 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    doubleohnine wrote: »
    Seriously Sir Taco, DECREASE ambient light from sector space stars
    +100
    I FULLY agree.

    Yes, you know what I did.
    Point?
    Don't get back to the previous, unrealistic state of what it once was.
    Again, this game is not a "show my boat", but a Star Trek MMO.
    The point is to kill what has to be killed, not becoming a ship modeling agency.
  • e30erneste30ernest Member Posts: 1,794 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    voivodje wrote: »
    a Star Trek MMO.

    Which also means it has to look like Star Trek right? Therefore, ships should appear brighter in Sector Space just like they did in the show while they were at warp.

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  • voivodjevoivodje Member Posts: 436 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    As someone pointed this out: It's STO, not much in here is canon, it's an MMO. :)
  • aelfwin1aelfwin1 Member Posts: 2,896 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    e30ernest wrote: »
    Which also means it has to look like Star Trek right? Therefore, ships should appear brighter in Sector Space just like they did in the show while they were at warp.

    Plz don't confuse the hypocrites .





    ... it makes'em sound like "I wann'it 'cuz I wann'it " -- while in the same breath they will clamor for a show accurate DS9 revamp ...
  • lebtronlebtron Member Posts: 296 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Wondering when the first one will ask for invisible phasers. Because those light spreading beams we have would be way too ineffective and therefore not realistic enough.

    I dont play for realism, but for trek. And I dont need a logic reason for something looking better than in reality^^
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  • jorantomalakjorantomalak Member Posts: 7,133 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Its to bright here = Its to dark here

    I swear you give people a nice looking new map and they all turn into slamek beetching about every little thing.

    News flash people

    The new map isnt going anywhere we got what we got stop whining and get over it
    either you can enjoy the game without whining or...theres the door dont fall in love with the door handle on the way out.
  • aelfwin1aelfwin1 Member Posts: 2,896 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    jorantomalak wrote: »
    Its to bright here = Its to dark here

    I swear you give people a nice looking new map and they all turn into slamek beetching about every little thing.

    Dammit , now I'm going to hear "IT'S TOO DARK IN HERE !!" in Slamik's voice , every time I take to the stars . :)





    ... which is still kinda better then murming to myself in a squeaky high pitched voice "don't look at your ships , look at my beauuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuutiful map !!! " ...
  • jorantomalakjorantomalak Member Posts: 7,133 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    aelfwin1 wrote: »
    Dammit , now I'm going to hear "IT'S TOO DARK IN HERE !!" in Slamik's voice , every time I take to the stars . :)

    Your welcome glad i could be of service and as a an added bonus

    As your screaming down the intergalactic space lanes remember these words

    This is Kurland , Kurland here come in :D
  • nyxadrillnyxadrill Member Posts: 1,242 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    jorantomalak wrote: »
    This is Kurland , Kurland here come in :D

    NOOOOOOO!!!! :eek:

    I suffered that 3 times for my Delta Recruits!! I'd had therapy and everything...it was just beginning to become just a bad memory....now the voice is back in my head!!! :(

    :D
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  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Lighting in sector space is just fine. Space is supposed to be black. :)

    Bridge-interior lighting, however, could maybe use some work, here and there.
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  • aelfwin1aelfwin1 Member Posts: 2,896 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    jorantomalak wrote: »

    As your screaming down the intergalactic space lanes remember these words

    This is Kurland , Kurland here come in :D


    For my own sanity (20+ toons and counting) , for a long time now I have reclassified Kurland as a recurring bug .







    ... errr ... , I mean "feature" ... ! :cool:
  • belidosbelidos Member Posts: 452 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    jorantomalak wrote: »
    As your screaming down the intergalactic space lanes remember these words

    But in space nobody can hear you scream!
  • mrspidey2mrspidey2 Member Posts: 959 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    Lighting in sector space is just fine. Space is supposed to be black. :)

    Bridge-interior lighting, however, could maybe use some work, here and there.
    This. The Origin bridge is still in need of actual lighting.
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  • teknesiateknesia Member Posts: 860 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    valoreah wrote: »
    Unless you're spending the majority of your time idling in sector space, seeing your ship shouldn't be a huge problem. When you're doing space missions, lighting is just fine.

    This topic belongs in the F.C.T. IMO.

    If they give this option to other players, give me the option to keep space as it is. Cryptic made it beautiful. My only complaint is that the Delta Quadrant really feels cramped now compared to the rest of the maps.
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  • drakethewhitedrakethewhite Member Posts: 1,240 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Leave sector space alone, lonely and dark is prefect and this change just about the best thing they've ever done. The hubs still exist and you can stare at your ship and those of other players all you want to there.

    What needs to return is a few Cargo Ships. One per quadrant would be nice.
  • stf65stf65 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    taco already said he made some light changes and that they will go into one of the upcoming patches. since patches don't come until thursday screaming about it on tuesday seems somewhat stupid. :)
  • boredpeonboredpeon Member Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    So someone intentionally made the lighting in this game to give people headaches? Then when people complain about it they insist on keeping it that way? Seriously, the game lighting is dark enough it makes people squint all the time while playing it. All that squinting gives a person a headache. Sure you can turn up the brightness, but by doing so it makes the game look like TRIBBLE.
  • stf65stf65 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    boredpeon wrote: »
    So someone intentionally made the lighting in this game to give people headaches? Then when people complain about it they insist on keeping it that way? Seriously, the game lighting is dark enough it makes people squint all the time while playing it. All that squinting gives a person a headache. Sure you can turn up the brightness, but by doing so it makes the game look like TRIBBLE.
    i'm not squinting. maybe you're just getting old and too proud to accept that you need glasses? :)
  • stf65stf65 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    sopwithsnipe wrote: »
    Nothing happens in sector space. All the "playing" goes on in instances where the lighting is brighter. Sector space is only used for traveling between point "a" and "b" by players that refuse to pay transwarp fees.
    it's also full of little exploration nodes that grant crafting supplies. so people do need to be able to see those things.
  • darkjeffdarkjeff Member Posts: 2,590 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    The problem with things like this is that it's possible it's not even a preference thing, but a monitor/graphics settings thing.

    I can see my ships perfectly fine, but when I play video games I use dim lighting as opposed to full-bright room lighting.
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