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HATE the chance system! HATE IT!!!
wanghunglo42
Member Posts: 170 Arc User
If I want something, I should just be able to buy it or grind for it! This chance system is the ONE disappointing thing that makes me not want to spend real $$$ on a game that I otherwise enjoy...and have enjoyed for YEARS!!
Cryptic, I like you guys, but I HATE your business model! Was it forced on you by clueless corporate suits at CBS? I heard they won't allow you to directly sell certain items such as the hot ships, but rather will only allow you to chance them away. Well that sucks and I'm not putting up with it another cent more!
Buy keys to open lock boxes? Forget it! Not another cent! Promotions like the chance to earn the Sheshar Dreadnought? No more! Either sell it to me, make me grind for it, or you can KEEP it!
We vote with our dollars. My vote is cast!
Cryptic, I like you guys, but I HATE your business model! Was it forced on you by clueless corporate suits at CBS? I heard they won't allow you to directly sell certain items such as the hot ships, but rather will only allow you to chance them away. Well that sucks and I'm not putting up with it another cent more!
Buy keys to open lock boxes? Forget it! Not another cent! Promotions like the chance to earn the Sheshar Dreadnought? No more! Either sell it to me, make me grind for it, or you can KEEP it!
We vote with our dollars. My vote is cast!
"As with all living things, each according to his gifts."
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Sorry man but you should take this as a lesson in gambling.
"As with all living things, each according to his gifts."
"As with all living things, each according to his gifts."
#1 doesn't require grinding if you use $, which the OP seemed to be willing to do.
A lockbox ship typically costs around 100mil (give or take 50mil). A master key can be sold between 2mil and 2.5mil EC. So, 100mil/2mil = 50 master keys. If you buy in packs of 10, 5 packs would cost you 5625 Zen. This costs ~$50 (give or take)
So, the cost of a lockbox ship is approximately $50 (maybe up to $75, depends on a couple Exchange related factors).
Complain about that high cost if you're going to complain about something, not the random chance
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There are lots of ways. Recently I'm mostly selling crafting materials. Doffing is also reliable money. Crafting does work but I find it unreliable so I just sell the materials. If you want to go that route then padds are spectacular, or omni beams, or play the mod gamble and try to luck out with critdx3 antiproton's. Contraband farming is steady money.
I also buy a few of everything in each lockbox while the box is available and then sell it two lockboxes later when the prices have tripled.
I was Klingon before Klingon was cool.
1. Buy keys with zen
2. Sell keys on exchange for 2.x million EC each
3. Buy ship from exchange for EC.
Simple. You can optimize this by:
- buying Zen when it is on sale +15%, and buying in $50 - $100 chunks for the bonus zen.
- buying keys when 15% off like they are now
- selling keys when they are NOT on sale, so not now
You my friend explained the phrase "buy low, sell high" using this methode ensures no one is being taken advantage of so long as you keep your prices competative. Well done.
I was Klingon before Klingon was cool.
Why are you buying keys with Real money and not credits?
Usually you can win the most sought after items with keys bought with EC less than the amount you'd have to buy the ship outright with EC depending on the item. EC isn't hard to make.
Thanks!
I open lock boxes now and then, but only if I want something from them besides the ships, like the doffs and polaron weapons in the vaadwaur boxes, plus lobi crystals. I know that my odds of getting a ship are 1 in 200-250 so I'm not surprised when I don't get it.
I used EC (from playing and crafting in my case not keys) to get the Manasa escort. I did sell some keys earlier to get a Plasmonic Leech for a Fed, since only KDF and Rom-KDF can get one from the C-Store ship.
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The bonus pools need to be removed from the game entirely or vastly improved in how much they give.
Dill mining claims are OK, but being bound is annoying, if they were sellable on the ah it'd be a huge improvement.
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Its funny the ope makes a threat Hate the chance system! Hat the day of the release of the new content.
Pretty much this right here.
Buy the keys.. sell the keys.. get what you want off the exchange.
It's better to spend $30-plus buck right off the bat and know you're going to get your ship.. than to gamble a lot more for a chance you might get it.
Craft gear, TRIBBLE selling it in a trading channel, yer never gonna get anything because of the simple fact people KNOW how to be patient, and not BLOW 100 mil EC on a crtdx4 weapon.
TRIBBLE trying to get 120k DPS, unless yer in a dedicated PRE-MADE team.
You all need to learn how to play the game and ENJOY it, and stop coming to the forums whining about a working business model.
Anybody knows, when yer SELLING a product, as a buisness, you want to ATTRACT people to SPEND money.
It is NOT a cash grab. It is a BUISNESS. Either pay money to get ahead, or BE PATIENT knowing through time, you CAN be numero uno.
Learn some fricken PATIENCE!
Well long, but in your OP you volunteered paying money. If you do that just spend it on keys and dont use em to open gambling boxes but rather sell em on the exchange and let other do that who dont have a problem with it.
If you are after a 70 mil lock box ship it roughly translates to 30 euro in that fashion. Not much more than a 3k ship from Zen Store.
Of course nobody holds u from playing smart. Monitoring exchange and going for sales in Zen store will help you a great deal.
If you dont want to spend the cash you can also grind dil besides ec and use it to buy zen. Almost all currencies are exchangeable.
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Never gamble with rl money under any circumstances. The house always wins, but you will not necessarily.
I know full well my chances of winning anything, but I figured today I'd give it a crack, since I had some spare keys, some spare dilithium, and there's a key sale on...
6 boxes later I get the Xindi-Insectoid Carrier...
It's a game of chance, if you go in expecting to win something, not only are you a fool, but you're only guaranteed to walk away with a rant like the OP's...
Go in expecting to win nothing more than a handful of Lobi and you're (very) pleasantly suprised when you do win...
it's hella frustrating that not one has dropped for me. I've bought every lockbox ship I have, except one which was a xmas gift from another player, thanks brah.