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redz4tw
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I created a klingon a while back but only recently started to level her up, I'd like help deciding what ships to get and ultimatly, what end game ship to get. I'm a tac officer btw.
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Never cared much for BOP's tho I hear great things about the Torkhat. My TAC flys a mirror Qin, and ENGie flys the T5 Kamarag - wouldn't trade either for anything less than a Fleet Pach or Fleet kar'Fi.
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As a tac I wouldn't go near the Bortas (the turn and lack of repair will kill ya IMHO), and as my max rank TAC fly's the Qin I can recommend it in that it's POWERFUL and FAST, but squshy- which is what it's supposed to be. The Mirror Qin is better, and I wouldn't recommend the Fleet Qin when the Fleet Torkhat is so much better at healing for the small decrease in DPS.
The Fleet Kar'Fi is coming but I don't think it's really a TAC ship, someone else may have more insight on that. I ran the T4 Pach forever and would still be running it if I didn't get so heavily into PvP.
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Vo'Quv Carrier if you like Carriers and are used to using slow turning ships then you might like it.
Hegh'ta Heavy Bird-of-Prey has full universal bridge officer stations allowing you to change things up a lot. Be warned it has weak hull and shields.
Negh'Var Heavy Battle Cruiser is similar to the Vor'cha Battle Cruiser Retrofit but the Vor'cha is the better overall ship.
Qin Heavy Raptor can do a lot of damage but it has limited healing capability with just Lieutenant Science and Lieutenant Engineer Bridge officer station.
If you use C-Store ship the Guramba Siege Destroyer can do a lot of damage and has a nice bridge officer layout. The Kar'Fi Battle Carrier is a high damage capable carrier.
Raiders are chaotic and temperamental little buggers you can do neat stuff with. They're not easy to fly well though.
Raptors are quick and powerful attack ships. Pretty analogous to Federation escorts and easy to slip into.
Battlecruisers are mighty beasts of war that can take what they dish out. Quite fun and flexible to fly around in once you adjust to their playstyle(s).
Flight Deck Cruisers are fantastic group support ships either offensively with a snaring focus or defensively with shield-heals and aceton beam.
The Gorn Science ships are generally inferior to their federation counterparts, but they're all the KDF has for "traditional" science setups(birds of prey have the bridge potential, but good luck shield-tanking in them).
Carriers take a lot of timing and patience, but they can make a mess of things with their frigates.
The Nausicaan destroyers are quite solid as well, and the Gurumba can certainly bring the pain-train if you accept the almighty Javelin into your heart.
B'rel Bird-of-Prey Retrofit a fun ship based of the ship from Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country. It can fire torps and drop mines wile cloaked as well as use a lot of abilities wile cloak. Like all Bird of Prey ships weak hull and shields.
Bortasqu' Cruiser versatile ship that can do a lot of damage its only problem is its turning.
Varanus Support Vessel is a Science ship.
Marauder Flight-Deck Cruiser has a single Hanger.
As lordmalak1 mentioned, it's very much a ship for Engineer Captains. The Command variant can be used well as a tanky-beamboat; the Tactical variant is a massive glass cannon with overwhelming firepower potential. Both rely on Engineering Captain-specific abilities to really make use of.
The ship also has a huge learning curve. Reversing to turn, dropping out of full impulse 20km away to avoid "sliding" right past your target, knowing and planning where your targets will be several seconds from now, etc. Definitely not a ship for beginners.
When i saw the turn rate that's what i was beginning to think. So what I've gathered, for a DPS/Tank combo i need a raptor or battle cruiser right? Oh and where can i get mirror ships.
As for "tanky-dps".. I'd probably say either go Engineer in a Raptor or Tactical(which you mentioned you are) in a Battlecruiser. The Nausicaan ships are also a middle-road "destroyer" option if you're willing to spend the money on them.
You should get Vor'cha as level 40 free ship. If you don't like it can get a mirror raptor from Exchage or buy Guramba Siege Destroyer.
Either or, try them while leveling up and see if you like their capabilities. Compare and contrast their stats versus what you personally find yourself enjoying more. Each one has its own little quirks and charms.
D7 is surprisingly nimble.
Kamarag is very well rounded and can do a bit of everything.
Vorcha/Torkaht is very aggressive.
Neghvar can take a lot of punishment.
I have two KDF characters, one tac and one eng, the eng has flown the Vor'cha retrofit for ages. If Cryptic ever releases the Negh'var-Refit that may or may not be in the pipeline, I'll probably get that.
My tac used to fly the B'Rel bird-of-prey refit. Until I just got sick and tired of its performance and fragility. Now I fly the Mirror Qin with that character, and will probably get the Fleet Somraw when my fleet gets to tier II.
The fleet Tork'hat is an excellent ship forna Tac toon.
R.I.P
--Red Annorax
Nothing at all wrong with the Pach, except it's a tier 4 ship. The Fleet Somraw it a solid T5+ refit of a T2 ship, but I don't like it's looks so I keep my Mirror Qin till the devs give me my beloved Pach back in a fleet configuration.
Awoken Dead
Now shaddup about the queues, it's a BUG
The Torkie is the fleet variant of the common Vorcha and is only availible from a fleet.
R.I.P
--Red Annorax
You can use the Vor'cha skin for it.
Its father was a drunken Vorcha with a flare for shuttling and its mom was a frigate with loose morals whom smelled of blood shine.......
R.I.P
^^
Still makes more sense than a lot of the plot lines in game.
The NPCs are also retardedly stupid and weak. BOPs, Escorts have the firepower to cut through all of them quickly with no effort. I disregarded the damage they did to the point that I had no need of shield heals until I decided to engage in Advanced STFs with my Delta Recruits/Operatives. For regular Advanced zones, missions, I still didn't use shield heals. Standard Shield Regeneration is OP against these NPC Mooks with their TRIBBLE AI.
If you can't tell, I hold a high level of contempt for the PVE of this game. So I treat it accordingly and just go all offense except for very few, specific, endgame content. Very easy to switch builds at endgame with the way BOFF skill training works now.
Costs.
There's long been talk of how expensive this game is with its ship purchases. This is most esp true with the KDF even before Delta Rising. 4 FSM ships were the norm for the KDF and is a very stiff penalty with the faction, IMO, compared to C-Store and Fleet ship equivalency typically found with Fed & Rom ship lists.
Ironically in the wake of Delta/Profits (for Cryptic)/Costs Rising, it's relatively cheaper now for new KDF players with endgame ships. You see, Cryptic has T5 vessel use starting at Lv50. Before Delta Rising, this was where Cryptic got you with high costs all around for practically every KDF vessel. But now we have T6 vessels and they too start at Lv50 for access. All KDF T6 vessels either come straight out of the C-Store as T6 Fleet level (Command FDCs) or have C-Store versions as well as Fleet versions that will have the 1 FSM cost (starting 21 April).
If I were an entirely new KDF player just dinging Lv50, I would NEVER touch a T5 ship. For what T5, T5U offers now to a new player, and how much they cost, it would be horrible purchase. Exception being the BOP, Carriers, Science Vessel, since we have none of those at T6.
Hey Cryptic... We need a T6 BOP.