first, the plus points.
T6 fleet phantom, this IMHO is good and well worth it, i will be getting this for my fed
Klingon ships, also good stats IMHO i will think about it
now the rant
you make sci ships for feds a2b capable, when sci ships need aux power for the sci powers, but for the rommies..... still no a2b escort, and thats why i wont be touching the Fleet Faeht Intel Warbird with a 10 foot bargepole, the seating for this is poor to say the best. I have not spent 30 mil ec on officers to have to dump them just for a T6 warbird escort.
I can only assume your CEO is a romie hater
You have also missed out on the perfect time to put out a pilot slot into escorts for all factions, as this would be a logical setup for ships that are built for that sort of thing
Jellico....Engineer ground.....Da'val Romulan space Sci
Saphire.. Science ground......Ko'el Romulan space Tac
Leva........Tactical ground.....Koj Romulan space Eng
JJ-Verse will never be Canon or considered Lore...It will always be JJ-Verse
I find it interesting how Romulans and Kdf get less ships every last 3 big ship patches , which in turn makes it almost like Kdf gets 2 ships and Starfleet gets basically 8 new ships considering that all the Romulan player base is almost 85% larger than the 15% Kdf/romulans in game ..... Kdf get the scraps yet again ???
No, as a Lifer that have already bought the previous Voyager type ships, prior to the release of the pathfinder, I lost out in purchasing the Pathfinder voyager interior bundle. That means I can no longer get the interior as it is no longer offered or included with the pathfinder tier 6 ship.
I now have to purchase the Intrepid Bundle to obtain the interior, however; there is one problem. If you OWN any of the previous Voyager types, and missed out on the interior Pathfinder bundle, then you are officially S.O.L.
Yeah ... , Cryptic's big dilemma :
Get the bundle monies from the new players or cater to the older players who kept them afloat (and who probably voted for the Voyager themed expansion back in Cryptic's poll after LoR) .
Truly a Delta Rising themed conundrum .
Not a single dime from me cryptic.
Intentionally keeping the disparity when you have already proven you can 'uplift' existing ships to t6 is just scummy.
O Man you all feel so entitled....... Anyway thanks cryptic I'll be getting the fleet phantom.
entitlement
noun en·ti·tle·ment \-ˈtī-təl-mənt\
1. the condition of having a right to have, do, or get something
2. the feeling or belief that you deserve to be given something (such as special privileges)
3. a type of financial help provided by the government for members of a particular group
1 and 2 are never something anyone has claimed. Cryptic's business antics only drive further down the hole otherwise we wouldn't see lockbox lotteries with a minority of people spending thousands of dollars and keeping this dead horse afloat.
3 is irrelevant.
I suggest you look up 'strawman arguement' and 'TRIBBLE' as they both apply to you.
I'm a little surprised that it went with 3 science consoles and not 4 engineering consoles, but that doesn't really matter. I'm using full universals anyway.
Might have to get Fleet Faehts to my rommies. That engineering console slot, I thought it might be a 4th science console slot but with Fleet MatHas 3 engi, 3 science and 5 tac it makes sense. They are copy and paste.
But still: Joy, Fleet Phantom is Nigh!
Galavant!
"Use Temporal Skills to NERF EVERYTHING before it happened!" -Unknown source.
I still find it hilarious that anyone expects something different after a precedent has been set, notably with the middle-of-the-road T6 Cross Faction Cruiser bundle.
And I can see the reasoning behind removing the Tier 5 Mastery Trait. It's the price paid for not increasing the module cost from 5 to 6. It really doesn't matter in the end; the Zen can still be ground out if one really wants the Trait and console to go with their T6 Fleet ship.
Aside from that, I really do hope they at least have a unique Fleet design or Fleet skin. If not, I'd rather they have waited to release them until they did have a unique customization or skin.
Looks like I'll be getting that Raptor for the KDF for my Tac. About time he got a new ship, he has been flying the Galor for ages. The other ships are of no interest to me, especially considering the amount of Fed junk swarming the market as per usual.
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So let me get this right. The main reason and why the T6 ships stood out was the trait they gave you. While costing zen wise slightly less then a full T6 version the biggest reason to get one if gone. Cause frankly the T5-u ships dominate in PvE and PvP is kinda non existent since DR (10+ min cue isnt a option). A
Also Fleet ships will only be active for 1 toon while for 500 more Zen you actualy get the Trait AND the ship for all chars.
O.T.: How about you guys fix the servers 1st and then try to lure more money out of your customers, else soon there will be noone left willing to pay for Zen
I can't justify that module cost ON TOP OF (bolded and capitalised for emphasis) buying the c-store ship for one character
Add that to the scummy practice of 'updated models' with zero discount and..
No, just no... no zen (nor ec from buying the modules) from me
(and lets not get onto the new lockbox that finally can be considered the first true p2w box - bo doubletaps indeed...)
I find it interesting how Romulans and Kdf get less ships every last 3 big ship patches...
Not quite the case. The last ship releases, there was parity. This is simply the Fleet variant release of the first post-Delta ships - that was the only release that had disparity.
I find it interesting how Romulans and Kdf get less ships every last 3 big ship patches , which in turn makes it almost like Kdf gets 2 ships and Starfleet gets basically 8 new ships considering that all the Romulan player base is almost 85% larger than the 15% Kdf/romulans in game ..... Kdf get the scraps yet again ???
Fyi
These are fleet variants of ships already!!!! In game so you wouldn't have got extra other faction ships anyway.
So your rage is not warranted is it. . . Well not about this anyway
I find it interesting how Romulans and Kdf get less ships every last 3 big ship patches , which in turn makes it almost like Kdf gets 2 ships and Starfleet gets basically 8 new ships considering that all the Romulan player base is almost 85% larger than the 15% Kdf/romulans in game ..... Kdf get the scraps yet again ???
There are 10 Fed FT6, 6 KDF FT6, and 6 Rom FT6...
...don't they teach addition at the other academies?
I feel like I am beating a horse so dead that even the skeleton has dissolved but how much further behind will KDF and Romulan Science Captains get before we have ships? My Delta Romulan Science is still in a level 40 ship because I don't have access to a Tier 5 shipyard yet these fleet versions need Tier 2 shipyards for T6.5 with not a science ship among them. With T5U now a full rank inferior, why keep these restrictions on shipyard rank? If it's to force us to buy a T6 Fleet, it won't work. There isn't one to buy.
Thankfully, you gave away the Breen carrier which is as close to a T6 pure science as you can get so my KDF Science is at least able to do something beyond Normal difficulty in a ship not 20 levels lower than the level cap. Bad luck for our Deltas with the winter event being 8 more months away to unlock it though.
Ummmm.....No new trait for the fleet variants? Why the hell would I get a fleet version if my regular version is practically the same ship, with a ship trait?
I'll just save my fleet ship modules for a ship that is worth while then.
Although, the last ship type we need is another overrated Galaxy variant. We need more Romulan and KLINGON ships.
Ummmm.....No new trait for the fleet variants? Why the hell would I get a fleet version if my regular version is practically the same ship, with a ship trait?
I'll just save my fleet ship modules for a ship that is worth while then.
Well it's going to be a long wait. Fleet ships have never come with special consoles like the z-store varieties. The trait is a pretty clear parallel.
If you want consoles and traits they you buy the z-store version.
If you are happy with none of the bells and whistles but just want the ship frame, you buy the fleet version. But that's only $5 cheaper than the store version.
If you've got the z-store version, then $5 gets you a little more hull/shields and one extra console slot on the fleet version.
Whether you like the costs or not, it's always been this way.
I feel like I am beating a horse so dead that even the skeleton has dissolved but how much further behind will KDF and Romulan Science Captains get before we have ships? My Delta Romulan Science is still in a level 40 ship because I don't have access to a Tier 5 shipyard yet these fleet versions need Tier 2 shipyards for T6.5 with not a science ship among them. With T5U now a full rank inferior, why keep these restrictions on shipyard rank? If it's to force us to buy a T6 Fleet, it won't work. There isn't one to buy.
Thankfully, you gave away the Breen carrier which is as close to a T6 pure science as you can get so my KDF Science is at least able to do something beyond Normal difficulty in a ship not 20 levels lower than the level cap. Bad luck for our Deltas with the winter event being 8 more months away to unlock it though.
Klingon's have plenty of Carrier options. IMO science officers work the best of the three classes in these ships.
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T6 fleet phantom, this IMHO is good and well worth it, i will be getting this for my fed
Klingon ships, also good stats IMHO i will think about it
now the rant
you make sci ships for feds a2b capable, when sci ships need aux power for the sci powers, but for the rommies..... still no a2b escort, and thats why i wont be touching the Fleet Faeht Intel Warbird with a 10 foot bargepole, the seating for this is poor to say the best. I have not spent 30 mil ec on officers to have to dump them just for a T6 warbird escort.
I can only assume your CEO is a romie hater
You have also missed out on the perfect time to put out a pilot slot into escorts for all factions, as this would be a logical setup for ships that are built for that sort of thing
Vice Admiral Volmack ISS Thundermole
Brigadier General Jokag IKS Gorkan
Centurion Kares RRW Tomalak
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
more engineering ?
Plz what a waste
Saphire.. Science ground......Ko'el Romulan space Tac
Leva........Tactical ground.....Koj Romulan space Eng
JJ-Verse will never be Canon or considered Lore...It will always be JJ-Verse
I find it interesting how Romulans and Kdf get less ships every last 3 big ship patches , which in turn makes it almost like Kdf gets 2 ships and Starfleet gets basically 8 new ships considering that all the Romulan player base is almost 85% larger than the 15% Kdf/romulans in game ..... Kdf get the scraps yet again ???
Yeah ... , Cryptic's big dilemma :
Get the bundle monies from the new players or cater to the older players who kept them afloat (and who probably voted for the Voyager themed expansion back in Cryptic's poll after LoR) .
Truly a Delta Rising themed conundrum .
Intentionally keeping the disparity when you have already proven you can 'uplift' existing ships to t6 is just scummy.
entitlement
noun en·ti·tle·ment \-ˈtī-təl-mənt\
1. the condition of having a right to have, do, or get something
2. the feeling or belief that you deserve to be given something (such as special privileges)
3. a type of financial help provided by the government for members of a particular group
1 and 2 are never something anyone has claimed. Cryptic's business antics only drive further down the hole otherwise we wouldn't see lockbox lotteries with a minority of people spending thousands of dollars and keeping this dead horse afloat.
3 is irrelevant.
I suggest you look up 'strawman arguement' and 'TRIBBLE' as they both apply to you.
I'm a little surprised that it went with 3 science consoles and not 4 engineering consoles, but that doesn't really matter. I'm using full universals anyway.
Might have to get Fleet Faehts to my rommies. That engineering console slot, I thought it might be a 4th science console slot but with Fleet MatHas 3 engi, 3 science and 5 tac it makes sense. They are copy and paste.
But still: Joy, Fleet Phantom is Nigh!
"Use Temporal Skills to NERF EVERYTHING before it happened!" -Unknown source.
And I can see the reasoning behind removing the Tier 5 Mastery Trait. It's the price paid for not increasing the module cost from 5 to 6. It really doesn't matter in the end; the Zen can still be ground out if one really wants the Trait and console to go with their T6 Fleet ship.
Aside from that, I really do hope they at least have a unique Fleet design or Fleet skin. If not, I'd rather they have waited to release them until they did have a unique customization or skin.
FA Dion - Romulan Engineer Officer
FA Zophie Delwynn - Fed Science Officer
They haven't been released yet. Wait for S10.
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Also Fleet ships will only be active for 1 toon while for 500 more Zen you actualy get the Trait AND the ship for all chars.
O.T.: How about you guys fix the servers 1st and then try to lure more money out of your customers, else soon there will be noone left willing to pay for Zen
FA Dion - Romulan Engineer Officer
FA Zophie Delwynn - Fed Science Officer
I can't justify that module cost ON TOP OF (bolded and capitalised for emphasis) buying the c-store ship for one character
Add that to the scummy practice of 'updated models' with zero discount and..
No, just no... no zen (nor ec from buying the modules) from me
(and lets not get onto the new lockbox that finally can be considered the first true p2w box - bo doubletaps indeed...)
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Not quite the case. The last ship releases, there was parity. This is simply the Fleet variant release of the first post-Delta ships - that was the only release that had disparity.
This is nothing new. Fleet variants have always been handled this way.
Yeah, it's kind of trippy...guess in all the temporal stuff with the Delta Recruits, somehow we were thrust back to 2012.
The ONLY productive use of Temporal Ship Mechanics in the History of Ever.
And one of my favorite Intro Machinma I ever did.
Fyi
These are fleet variants of ships already!!!! In game so you wouldn't have got extra other faction ships anyway.
So your rage is not warranted is it. . . Well not about this anyway
There are 10 Fed FT6, 6 KDF FT6, and 6 Rom FT6...
...don't they teach addition at the other academies?
Thankfully, you gave away the Breen carrier which is as close to a T6 pure science as you can get so my KDF Science is at least able to do something beyond Normal difficulty in a ship not 20 levels lower than the level cap. Bad luck for our Deltas with the winter event being 8 more months away to unlock it though.
I'll just save my fleet ship modules for a ship that is worth while then.
Although, the last ship type we need is another overrated Galaxy variant. We need more Romulan and KLINGON ships.
Well it's going to be a long wait. Fleet ships have never come with special consoles like the z-store varieties. The trait is a pretty clear parallel.
If you want consoles and traits they you buy the z-store version.
If you are happy with none of the bells and whistles but just want the ship frame, you buy the fleet version. But that's only $5 cheaper than the store version.
If you've got the z-store version, then $5 gets you a little more hull/shields and one extra console slot on the fleet version.
Whether you like the costs or not, it's always been this way.
Klingon's have plenty of Carrier options. IMO science officers work the best of the three classes in these ships.
Mwhaha, the Dauntless becomes even more overpowered.