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TOS and Season 10 conflict
aphelionmarauder
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Centuries ago, the Kelvans became aware of dangerously rising radiation levels in Andromeda, a development expected to make that galaxy uninhabitable for their species within 10,000 years (or 10 millennia). The Kelvan Empire dispatched expeditions of multi-generational starships to explore the neighboring galaxies for territories suitable for conquest and occupation. (TOS: "By Any Other Name")
I think that the Iconians, living in Andromeda, created this to drive the Kelvan empire out. Does this mean season 10 will reference this? I mean, it would explain Iconian's, though it doesn't say there was a war, but with the Iconians energy-resembling figures, I would think they live in a radiation environment. I am just curious if Cryptic is going to reference TOS with all of this or not, because there is ALOT of things that came from Andromeda, which is where the Iconians currently are.
Just some thoughts, feel free to add on.
Centuries ago, the Kelvans became aware of dangerously rising radiation levels in Andromeda, a development expected to make that galaxy uninhabitable for their species within 10,000 years (or 10 millennia). The Kelvan Empire dispatched expeditions of multi-generational starships to explore the neighboring galaxies for territories suitable for conquest and occupation. (TOS: "By Any Other Name")
I think that the Iconians, living in Andromeda, created this to drive the Kelvan empire out. Does this mean season 10 will reference this? I mean, it would explain Iconian's, though it doesn't say there was a war, but with the Iconians energy-resembling figures, I would think they live in a radiation environment. I am just curious if Cryptic is going to reference TOS with all of this or not, because there is ALOT of things that came from Andromeda, which is where the Iconians currently are.
Just some thoughts, feel free to add on.
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Crying shame it is.
I seem to remember a TOS reference in one of the genesis star-cluster missions; it was one of those beam to the planet and scan 5 things ones. I think it was an energy cloud or mist or something...
Unfortunately, the details escape me now. Anyone else remember this?
Wasn't that an early reference to the Omega Molecule?
There may have been one of those too. I just seem to remember my science officer telling me that what I was scanning had been encountered by the Enterprise in the 23rd century... or something to that effect. Could be wrong though.
In the Milky Way galaxy, there are numerous large empires / federations where all the five series happened. And yet we've only explored a small part of it in Star Trek.
Andromeda is even larger and has 2-3 times as many stars. Just because the Iconians are in the Andromeda Galaxy doesn't mean they have encountered the Kelvans.
In my opinion, it would even be better NOT to mention the Kelvans. As Roddenberry once said (at least I think he said it, I'm unable to find the quote atm) "Don't treat space like your backyard"...
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No love for the Tantalus Field, eh?
When did the Devidian FE launch? I know for a fact it was "well before F2P did".
I mean, that arc is chock full of TOS references, like Scotty, McCoy, 23rd Century Drozana, beating up a tube-nacelled Connie with a holo-D7, etc. etc.
I think that was the "last major" TOS reference...
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A revamp of the cardi struggle and getting a new faction from it *cough*Cardassians*cough*:D
Animated series, films, you wanted people to say enterprise didn't you?
No.
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In the exploration clusters, they appeared as patches of glowing mist. In the TOS episode, they appeared as a camp fat bloke in silver lame, who broke out in horrible sores when they all disbelieved in him. Sometimes the exploration clusters did it better, you know.
No clue, it's been around a long time- so long that's it's blended in with the fog of 'the beginning days' for me. It was well before F2P.
No, those came from TMP. People want the ones from the animated series, but we don't have them.
They appeared in galleries of the various aliens made for TMP, and included makeup very similar to that used in Voyage home.
They did a lot of work on Aliens for TMP for some reason, and didn't really highlight any of them and showed only a few on screen. Good choice, the makeup wasn't all that good.
I remember one race being effectively a race of clones, they could produce millions of ground troops nearly overnight and were the Federation's ground army. Why was this important or even thought about for the TMP movie? No idea.
That mission was dealing with a/the Gorgan, the "Friendly Angel" alien/entity, from the TOS episode "And the Children Shall Lead Them."
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Maybe inspired by the skorr from tas:
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Skorr
They were said to be able to breed billions of warriors in a few years. Themplot of their Episode was stopping them from doing this, in fact.
Yes, but the appearance between the movie and TAS versions is completely different, and we're not allowed the TAS version.
Or even one of the movie versions for that matter, the STO ones don't believe either in manes or long hair it appears.
Matter of opinion, especially for a game where all the characters IMO already look like they're cartoons to my eyes.
The movie ones just look like bad and lazy makeup with but one exception, who did have a mane look to him (due to really impressive sideburns). But we can't do him either.
They aren't coming out with a Cardi faction.
A: They shot themselves in the foot when they released the Galor in the first lockbox.
B: Renaming said Galor won't change a thing.
C: I believe its been said that they are not planning anymore factions.
The Cardassians have... the Hideki, the Galor, and the Keldon. Not to mention the Cardassians (Outside of the True Way) aren't really allowed to field a military anymore under treaty with the Federation, Klingon Empire, and... well... I guess I can't say the Romulan Star Empire anymore.
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I would agree. They shot the puppy and chopped its head off with the silly lockboxes. And basically did the same when they merged the Orions, Gorns, etc with the Klingons.
In short, if they ever wanted to do a lot of factions (which they should have)- they needed to designed the game in a way that allowed them to be easily inserted and make sure expansion afterward didn't get in the way.
They didn't, and thus now they never can.
Very bad mistakes early on last for a lifetime. Hopefully the game that replaces STO down the road (whenever, or if ever) has wiser developers.
Kidding, right?, you want to see cartoons?, go play WoW, Neverwinter or SWTOR... or asian MMO's... this game has the most realistic characters i have seen besides single player games... anyway, its your own taste and your opinion, im just pointing out references
I have yet to see a MMO that doesn't look like a cartoon. Remember, cartoons can run a vast range for quality and realism and yet still be a cartoon.
And I consider SWTOR to be on par with this game.
But this is all taste and impression. And in this case, I wish we weren't locked in yours but rather offered people their choice.
As is however I get to save my Zen as I can not stand the Catians they sell in this game. Heck, I'd take the JJ Trek ones over them. So for me, money saved!
Not true in the sense the factions now exist in this game.
Indeed, it is *very* common to have 6 or more each with their early levels having their own starting areas and adventures. And then they merge (just like the factions do in this game) into the same adventure paths. It only needs to be done for the first ten levels or so to give the faction it's own feel and background.
I can log into Lord of the Rings Online right now and do that for five different races in fact, and that game is of the same 'generation mmo' as this one.
But this game didn't set that up, didn't plan for it, and then introduced the lockboxes to block it. Foolish. If they had done it right, they could have added a new race to the Delta Recruitment event and made it even more successful. Like, oh yes- LotRO did with Beornings this same year.