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    imruinedimruined Member Posts: 1,457 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    patrickngo wrote: »
    Fukushima was a fifties design built in the sixties, relied on active safeties (meaning safeties that had to rely on external power and intervention) instead of passive, was located on a fault line...basically everything you do NOT do when you build one. When was the last meltdown catastrophe on a Nuclear powered ship?

    I'll just chime in and add Fukushima was built with large quakes in mind, however, a tsunami the size of which that hit the plant was not considered, and this also played a very large part in the disaster...

    Without the tsunami there is every likelihood the disaster would have never occurred...
    The entitlement is strong in these forums...

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    ashkrik23ashkrik23 Member Posts: 10,809 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    gulberat wrote: »
    We don't even have a union. Our company was just trying to do the responsible and right thing on its own. One would think such behavior should be encouraged. :-/

    Big brother hates independent business, remember?
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    aelfwin1aelfwin1 Member Posts: 2,896 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    No offense, and you have my sympathies; with how difficult what little I've dealt with has been, I can't even imagine what you go through.

    Unfortunately, I can't possibly expect the same level of financial support for myself or anyone from my generation; by that time, it's likely debt servicing will be the number one expenditure, and I won't be thanking my parents' or grandparents' generations for that.

    I understand your concerns , however you might also consider that the vaunted "pro life" Republicans never consider their attitude to lead towards more and more bloated military spending .

    And as that spending eclipses that of all of their competition , it dawns on no one that such an effort to kill is not made to heal or to research or to pay off the deep debts that the Bush era has left you with , nor that some of the said spending could be funneled into the cear that longer human lifespans will require (whether you like it or not) in the 21 century and beyond .

    And now, as the spiral of instability moves from country to country from Iraq and onwards , instead of looking to take responsibility for the horrible miscalculation of the Iraqi invasion , the Republicans are dreaming of ramping up military spending further (should they win 2016) .

    That will make many of their big corporate sponsors happy (especially from the weapons industry) , while all the talk about health care and social security will remain about slashing and downsizing ... , because really ... SOMEONE has to pay for the never ending war effort .




    ... I mean it's not enough what you've payed for the last 14 years ...
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    gonaliusgonalius Member Posts: 893 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    imruined wrote: »
    I'll just chime in and add Fukushima was built with large quakes in mind, however, a tsunami the size of which that hit the plant was not considered, and this also played a very large part in the disaster...

    Without the tsunami there is every likelihood the disaster would have never occurred...

    But Tsunami's are THE natural by-effect of earthquakes... As far as I'm aware, the only way Tsunami's are formed is via them.
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    sarreoussarreous Member Posts: 336 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Before this thread gets locked I'm just going to say that I have found equally stupid commentary from "the left". You all need to drop your left/right allegiances, stop cherry picking the worst of the "other" side to show off, and start seeing your favored parties and politicians for what they really are.
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    ashkrik23ashkrik23 Member Posts: 10,809 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    sarreous wrote: »
    Before this thread gets locked I'm just going to say that I have found equally stupid commentary from "the left". You all need to drop your left/right allegiances, stop cherry picking the worst of the "other" side to show off, and start seeing your favored parties and politicians for what they really are.

    I don't think the left are capable of doing that.
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    mhirtescmhirtesc Member Posts: 581 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    ashkrik23 wrote: »
    I don't think the left are capable of doing that.

    The Fox News is strong with this one.
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    ashkrik23ashkrik23 Member Posts: 10,809 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    mhirtesc wrote: »
    The Fox News is strong with this one.

    The CNN is strong with this one :).
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    mhirtescmhirtesc Member Posts: 581 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    ashkrik23 wrote: »
    The CNN is strong with this one :).

    Out of curiosity, which Fox blowhard told you that libby-libs watch CNN? NO ONE watches CNN anymore.
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    abystander0abystander0 Member Posts: 648 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    mhirtesc wrote: »
    Out of curiosity, which Fox blowhard told you that libby-libs watch CNN? NO ONE watches CNN anymore.

    My guess would be the same person that told you that anyone who disagrees with you watches Fox.
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    lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,825 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    gfreeman98 wrote: »
    Of all the dumbness in the dumb article above, I will focus on the most important issue:

    Spock was not "big-eared".

    His ears were within the normal size range. What he had were pointed ears. "pointed" != "big", Mr. President.

    Maybe he is thinking of the JJ trek Spock...or maybe even the Romulans...they did have big ears :P
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    ashkrik23ashkrik23 Member Posts: 10,809 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    mhirtesc wrote: »
    Out of curiosity, which Fox blowhard told you that libby-libs watch CNN? NO ONE watches CNN anymore.

    Oh I'm sorry, maybe I should have said MSNBC as an alternative hehe.
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    mhirtescmhirtesc Member Posts: 581 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    We "libs" aren't fond of conservatives because they want the evangelicals to dictate who we marry, what gets taught in our schools, and eliminate a woman's choice. Their economic plan is to shift the tax burden from the top of the food chain to the bottom of the food chain. They have also demonstrated they shouldn't be put in charge of the military.

    I guess you can say that the non-conservative universe of Star Trek is a good reason why we aren't getting on the Ted Cruz bus.
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    cidjackcidjack Member Posts: 2,017 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    ESD has spilled onto the forums.......RUNNNNNN!!!!!
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    ashkrik23ashkrik23 Member Posts: 10,809 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    cidjack wrote: »
    ESD has spilled onto the forums.......RUNNNNNN!!!!!

    You will be consumed. There is no escape!
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    starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    mhirtesc wrote: »
    I guess you can say that the non-conservative universe of Star Trek is a good reason why we aren't getting on the Ted Cruz bus.

    Are you sure that the Star Trek universe is non-conservative?
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    mackbolan01mackbolan01 Member Posts: 580 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    wow faux noise strikes black............

    in before the lock too
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    millimidgetmillimidget Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    mhirtesc wrote: »
    We "libs" aren't fond of conservatives because
    • they want the evangelicals to dictate who we marry,
    Except if you ever listened to the complaints of TRIBBLE couples they focused on the inability of the regulatory state to accommodate them, and less so on their inability to have their dream wedding, which they could have had already. Both interests could have been satisfied.
    • what gets taught in our schools,
    So don't live there? I know I wouldn't choose to live in a town or state which mandated teaching creationism in public schools. Tragically, they're still getting a better education overall than inner city minority kids receive at the hands of the public teachers unions.

    I'm reading a story today about a high school teacher and pervert who admittedly solicited teenage students over the internet to provide him with nude pictures. He hasn't even been fired yet; only put on administrative leave.

    Talk about cultural rot. He'll probably keep his job, provided he's willing to sit in the still-existent "rubber rooms" and never teach again, where he's free to operate an outside business during school hours, on school grounds, while still getting paid and vesting into his pension.
    • and eliminate a woman's choice.
    Some. Personally, at some point I feel there's a need to afford the fetus some rights, short of putting the mother's life at risk. Though most (all?) US abortion laws currently stipulate that.

    And there's also something to be said for the lack of regulation of abortion clinics. It's not an entirely safe procedure, however its done, and some clinics have been found to be unsanitary, to say the least, and yet it's relatively unregulated.
    • Their economic plan is to shift the tax burden from the top of the food chain to the bottom of the food chain.
    If that's how you interpret lowering everyone's tax burden. Tesla Motors got a great tax break on those Nevada and New York deals; it's paying something like $1 in property tax for its New York plant. Hollywood gets countless tax breaks, and actually demands them now from states it films in.

    Besides, it only needs to be compared to the liberal economic plan; taxing everyone into destitution. Because that's the only way to achieve equality for all. Except of course for the then-rich bureaucrats who run the government. Communism didn't fail because it wasn't tried; it failed because it doesn't work.
    • They have also demonstrated they shouldn't be put in charge of the military.
    Huh? It was succeeding until Obama pulled out, leaving the very power vacuum Daesh has filled.
    • I guess you can say that the non-conservative universe of Star Trek is a good reason why we aren't getting on the Ted Cruz bus.
    It's also a total fantasy, based on miracle tech there's no guarantee we'll ever invent.
    There are only two kinds of sane Republicans today, those who have been driven to abandon the party due to its state of being highjacked by Gordon Gecko and Pat Robertson, and those in denial and yet to be driven out. The crazies have no tolerance for someone as intelligent and reasonable as you.
    Gordon's gone and Pat'll die off eventually. It's not the 80s; Wall Street gives more to Democrats, and receives more favors from them in return. Just look at the parade of insiders Obama marched through his administration, and how many of them had no more qualification than being a campaign bundler for him.
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    mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    gonalius wrote: »
    Don't know much about the Three Mile Island event, but Chernobyl was a case of deliberately bypassing a number of safety protocols, and who in their right mind would build a Nuclear Power Plant right in the centre of earthquake country?
    What is a country supposed to do? If nuclear power is the only answr to our energy problems, and the country is in an earth quake region?
    As long as common sense and proper safety precautions are taken, Nuclear Power is incredibly safe.

    That caveat there is the problem, I fear.

    While it is bad for business of a company building nuclear reactors if it blows up - the real risk is usually carried by the government and the people in the area. And the cost of security and safety measures and adhering to them is high. And so standards are dropped. Incidents are underreported and played down. Until something bad happens. And then people realize that unfortunately, this hurts everyone, and the government (and thus the tax payer) has to pay up.

    I used to be very much against nuclear power. I have become... more moderate in my views. I am not convinced any more we can do without. But I also see a lot of problems if we don't handle it with a lot of care, and I ultimately fear that there isn't any good solution to our energy needs. Wind and Solar, even if they get more efficient and can cover more (even if never all*) of our needs aren't all sunshine, either, unfortunately - the base materials needed to produce them are made in pretty dirty processes, most likely made in factories or mines that don't adhere to any US or German safety and environment standards or working conditions.

    here are no silver bullets. No technology we come along and solve all our problems. We will probably remain dependent on a mix of energy sources, and we need to ensure that we do our best to make them sustainable and clean for everyone involved.
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    artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    edited March 2015
    Wow.

    Is there anyone who's centre? Or is everybody left or right?

    Thank goodness some of us live in a completely different country where we don't have to give Obama a second thought either way.

    Also, Spock didn't necessarily have big ears, they were larger than humans, it's just the size wasn't really the defining feature of them :D.
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    mhirtescmhirtesc Member Posts: 581 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    “If by a "Liberal" they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people-their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights and their civil liberties-someone who believes we can break through the stalemate and suspicions that grip us in our policies abroad, if that is what they mean by a "Liberal", then I'm proud to say I'm a "Liberal.”

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    reginamala78reginamala78 Member Posts: 4,593 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    How has this thread not been nuked?

    Excellent question. Mods must take the weekend off.
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    walshicuswalshicus Member Posts: 1,314 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    artan42 wrote: »
    Wow.

    Is there anyone who's centre? Or is everybody left or right?

    Thank goodness some of us live in a completely different country where we don't have to give Obama a second thought either way.

    Also, Spock didn't necessarily have big ears, they were larger than humans, it's just the size wasn't really the defining feature of them :D.

    America doesn't have leftist politicians. It has a right wing and an even further right wing.


    If Patrick Stewart were to pass away tomorrow and David Cameron gave a speech praising his contribution to society and commenting on how much the Picard character influenced him in his younger years, I don't think you'll find many English Socialists, Scottish Nationalists or Greens criticising him for it and turning on Stewart. There's something uniquely mal-functional about American politics (and a good chunk of that mal-function lies with a certain Australian Dirty Digger).
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    ashkrik23ashkrik23 Member Posts: 10,809 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    walshicus wrote: »
    America doesn't have leftist politicians. It has a right wing and an even further right wing.


    If Patrick Stewart were to pass away tomorrow and David Cameron gave a speech praising his contribution to society and commenting on how much the Picard character influenced him in his younger years, I don't think you'll find many English Socialists, Scottish Nationalists or Greens criticising him for it and turning on Stewart. There's something uniquely mal-functional about American politics (and a good chunk of that mal-function lies with a certain Australian Dirty Digger).

    No left wing? What reality did you come from?
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    gonaliusgonalius Member Posts: 893 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    ashkrik23 wrote: »
    No left wing? What reality did you come from?

    Compared to most of the rest of the world, he's right. US left wing Politics is considered to be moderate right wing in most other Western countries.
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    ashkrik23ashkrik23 Member Posts: 10,809 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    gonalius wrote: »
    Compared to most of the rest of the world, he's right. US left wing Politics is considered to be moderate right wing in most other Western countries.

    Got some examples for comparison?
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