So you get a nationalist society, then what? How do you fix it without socialism? You remove the only system protecting the poor and vulnerable and replace it with what? How do you fix the society other than by simply removing the poor? You cant fix the economy without picking a economic model i.e. socialism.
Also you clearly don't know what globalism is, or communism for that matter.
Also, this thread got moved rather than closed? Not that I'm complaining, it does make an interesting read for the occasional post.
I know exactly what globalism and communism are. They are one and the same. No identity allowed other than what the gubmint gives you. No thought allowed other than what the gubmint allows you. No chance to advance. No chance at life.
In old Europe, we didn't have these problems. People lived and died on their own labors. If they refused to work (which a lot of people in both Europe and the US do) they starved. If they refuse to produce something, they starve. It culls the useless out of the gene pool. In a nationalist society, you can help people who deserve it and get rid of those who don't. In a nationalist society, you have laws forbidding companies from outsourcing if they wish to sell their goods or services in their home nation. In a nationalist society, you show preference for your native people, and the rest can stay in their own countries and work to make them better, just like Europeans did. We got rid of our absolute monarchs and dictators, typically through revolt. Nationalists need to do that now, as every western nation is in the process of ethnic displacement and replacement, which amounts to native ethnic genocide. A nationalist society,by its very nature, could have no genocide.
It should just be a thread embracing the utter stupidity of refusing to like something just because President Barack Obama does. I don't care about your politics. I don't care if you like or dislike the guy. Personally, I'm ambivalent. He's no worse or better a president than people make him out to be. But the base concept of this is that if you refuse to like something just because he does then maybe it's time to do away with beer and most modern conveniences while you're at it. Oh... and Al Green.
I mean, we should just be mocking the guy who wrote the article. He clearly isn't conservative, he's TRIBBLE (seriously) or as somebody on my facebook noted "Some people just enjoy being stupid". What the hell is conservative about not liking something just because the president happens to? The guy is clearly just trying to be one of the herd, not some independent thinker that arrives at political conclusions by their own means, because that sort of person probably wouldn't give a damn whether or not the pres likes something in pop culture.
Me, personally though, Barack Obama likes Spock. Cool. He's still a mediocre president, but it's cool that he likes Spock.
Personally, I think the mods are sick and tired of dealing with these messes. There is absolutely no reason why this thread and the WBC thread are still around unless there has been a rule change.
*whacks mhirtesc in the nuts with a hammer for posting flame bait*
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I know exactly what globalism and communism are. They are one and the same. No identity allowed other than what the gubmint gives you. No thought allowed other than what the gubmint allows you. No chance to advance. No chance at life.
In old Europe, we didn't have these problems. People lived and died on their own labors. If they refused to work (which a lot of people in both Europe and the US do) they starved. If they refuse to produce something, they starve. It culls the useless out of the gene pool. In a nationalist society, you can help people who deserve it and get rid of those who don't. In a nationalist society, you have laws forbidding companies from outsourcing if they wish to sell their goods or services in their home nation. In a nationalist society, you show preference for your native people, and the rest can stay in their own countries and work to make them better, just like Europeans did. We got rid of our absolute monarchs and dictators, typically through revolt. Nationalists need to do that now, as every western nation is in the process of ethnic displacement and replacement, which amounts to native ethnic genocide. A nationalist society,by its very nature, could have no genocide.
i just don't understand what politics has to do with this topic at all. so what if these jew haters also happen to be republicans. there are a lot of man-haters who are democrats. do all democrats hate men and therefore should be burned at the stake? a person is free to love or hate whoever they want and at the same time be affiliated with whatever political group they want. coincidence being that a majority of certain types of haters/lovers gravitate towards a particular political group, does not mean that the entire group can be characterized by that social trend.
you could make the argument that Jesus Christ, Robin Hood, and the Tooth Ferry were all democrats because they liked giving stuff away. But wait, Jesus has to be a republican, because He teaches that homosexuality is a sin and that people should work for a living and give an account of their lives, and that profit is good.
you can't take a single facet of a person and use it to label them, let alone an entire group, based on the actions of some. it is completely foolish to turn this into a political debate, because politics has nothing to do with people who hate jews and wanted to protest Mr Nemoy.
when you label people, you judge them. and when you judge them, you elevate yourself higher than them. and when you're elevated higher than something, that means that the thing beneath you is less than human, because you're human, and it is of less value than you. when they are of less value, they aren't worthy of respect. when they aren't worthy of respect, then their views, feelings, ideas, and motives are wrong. when someone else is wrong, that make you right. when you're right, and i'm wrong, that makes us enemies. if your enemy is less than human, doesn't deserve respect, and is morally wrong, then in your mind he is evil. if i'm less than human, and evil, then you can justify any action you take against me in the name of a moral superiority.
this type of divisiveness is what in psychology we call 'the enemy image' and lets people in their own minds justify acts of unimaginable cruelty. wives are particularly adept at this when they decide to get a divorce someone they vowed to love, honor, and cherish for the rest of their lives.
you all need to take a step back and think about what you're getting angry over.
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Translation:
"I don't want to talk about politics, but here, take this political jab."
This thread really needs to be locked down.
No. At least not right now.
I'm officially sick and tired politics for at least a month.
Alright. Have a nice day....
You, too.
And all Hail Ba'al!
I know exactly what globalism and communism are. They are one and the same. No identity allowed other than what the gubmint gives you. No thought allowed other than what the gubmint allows you. No chance to advance. No chance at life.
In old Europe, we didn't have these problems. People lived and died on their own labors. If they refused to work (which a lot of people in both Europe and the US do) they starved. If they refuse to produce something, they starve. It culls the useless out of the gene pool. In a nationalist society, you can help people who deserve it and get rid of those who don't. In a nationalist society, you have laws forbidding companies from outsourcing if they wish to sell their goods or services in their home nation. In a nationalist society, you show preference for your native people, and the rest can stay in their own countries and work to make them better, just like Europeans did. We got rid of our absolute monarchs and dictators, typically through revolt. Nationalists need to do that now, as every western nation is in the process of ethnic displacement and replacement, which amounts to native ethnic genocide. A nationalist society,by its very nature, could have no genocide.
It should just be a thread embracing the utter stupidity of refusing to like something just because President Barack Obama does. I don't care about your politics. I don't care if you like or dislike the guy. Personally, I'm ambivalent. He's no worse or better a president than people make him out to be. But the base concept of this is that if you refuse to like something just because he does then maybe it's time to do away with beer and most modern conveniences while you're at it. Oh... and Al Green.
I mean, we should just be mocking the guy who wrote the article. He clearly isn't conservative, he's TRIBBLE (seriously) or as somebody on my facebook noted "Some people just enjoy being stupid". What the hell is conservative about not liking something just because the president happens to? The guy is clearly just trying to be one of the herd, not some independent thinker that arrives at political conclusions by their own means, because that sort of person probably wouldn't give a damn whether or not the pres likes something in pop culture.
Me, personally though, Barack Obama likes Spock. Cool. He's still a mediocre president, but it's cool that he likes Spock.
No thanks.
HAIL HYDRA!
Hydra is weak, Ba'al will reign supreme!
Plus, Ba'al looks better.
Hail Ba'al!
Maybe because for the most part it's remained surprisingly civil? Only thing I can think of.
I was assuming sheer humor value...
And yes this whole thread is funny on many levels. I never knew STO had so many political experts!
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you could make the argument that Jesus Christ, Robin Hood, and the Tooth Ferry were all democrats because they liked giving stuff away. But wait, Jesus has to be a republican, because He teaches that homosexuality is a sin and that people should work for a living and give an account of their lives, and that profit is good.
you can't take a single facet of a person and use it to label them, let alone an entire group, based on the actions of some. it is completely foolish to turn this into a political debate, because politics has nothing to do with people who hate jews and wanted to protest Mr Nemoy.
when you label people, you judge them. and when you judge them, you elevate yourself higher than them. and when you're elevated higher than something, that means that the thing beneath you is less than human, because you're human, and it is of less value than you. when they are of less value, they aren't worthy of respect. when they aren't worthy of respect, then their views, feelings, ideas, and motives are wrong. when someone else is wrong, that make you right. when you're right, and i'm wrong, that makes us enemies. if your enemy is less than human, doesn't deserve respect, and is morally wrong, then in your mind he is evil. if i'm less than human, and evil, then you can justify any action you take against me in the name of a moral superiority.
this type of divisiveness is what in psychology we call 'the enemy image' and lets people in their own minds justify acts of unimaginable cruelty. wives are particularly adept at this when they decide to get a divorce someone they vowed to love, honor, and cherish for the rest of their lives.
you all need to take a step back and think about what you're getting angry over.
An Ambassador can't ake a beach detour without everything going to pieces?!
I'll phone Askray.
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